Overeem fails drug test UFC 146 may be in jeopardy.

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RPD

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Mark my words, Mir will take him down for a finish. Either sub or TKO or KO, it'll be finished on the mat.
Mir's wrestling sucks, he is not good at taking people down. JDS take down defense? Probably the best in the division. It's a match up nightmare for Mir.

Also Overeem finally releases a statement about the failed testing, such a BS excuse.

To my friends and fans,

I am deeply saddened to announce that on Friday, April 20, I respectfully withdrew from the May 26 event so that I can request a continuance until my situation with the Nevada State Athletic Commission is resolved.

I cannot express how sorry I am to the Commission, Junior Dos Santos, the fans, the owners and employees of the UFC, my friends and family and anyone else who this has affected.

I absolutely do not believe in, nor do I use performance-enhancing drugs. I am a clean fighter and I will do whatever it takes to prove this to everyone.

Prior to the UFC 146 press conference in March, I aggravated an old rib injury on my left side. My doctor prescribed, and I accepted, an anti-inflammatory medication that was mixed with testosterone. I was completely unaware that testosterone was one of the ingredients in the medication. Although I was unaware, I do realize it is my job to know what I am putting into my body.

I respect the Nevada Commissioners and Executive Director Keith Kizer and what they are doing to keep
the sport of mixed martial arts regulated and safe for athletes. I look forward to working with them in the days and weeks ahead.

Friends and fans, I ask for your patience as I work through this matter. Please support me. I promise to return to the Octagon soon.
http://www.mmafighting.com/ufc/2012...-explains-why-he-failed-pre-ufc-146-drug-test
 

bfdd

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It should. It's a form of cheating. Are you okay with one guy bringing a knife in the ring? But beyond that forces a race to the bottom which is unhealthy for the athletes and they shouldn't be killing themselves for our entertainment. Nor acting as role models to very impressionable youth athletes.

I see taking steroids or any other PED the same as I do eating a steak or drinking some water. I'm putting something into my body, that my body then uses. Bringing a knife to the fight would be significantly different than that. Plus there have never been any long term studies done on steroid use so all the non-sense you hear is just that non-sense.

Also, bummed that Overeem is out. At least I know who to put money on in this fight now, easy money on JDS 1st round KO. Hunt might get the next shot if he beats Struve since there was some steam behind him to replace Overeem. I'd fucking love to see Hunt vs JDS. Cain vs Nelson for contender shot is lols imo and I'm a huge Nelson fan.
 

waggy

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i have taken a few anti-inflammatory meds. none of them upped my testosterone levels 16 to 1
 

RPD

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Cain is fighting Big Foot Silva.

Also arguing if taking known substances that are illegal/cheating is meaningless, per the current rules, it's simply cheating. It's like kneeing a downed opponent, or soccer head kicks in the UFC. You know you can't do it. There are no if's and or but's about it. As the rules currently stand, it's cheating.

Now if you want to argue/debate if taking said sustances is bad for the body or sport that is another matter entirely.
 
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waggy

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Cain is fighting Big Foot Silva.

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that pisses me off. i was hopeing to see Roy kick his ass. I thin cain takes it without to much issue.

Hope they find someone for Roy to fight. that was my main reason for getting the ppv now i will go watch it at a friends bah.
 

RPD

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overeem is up now. He is welcomed by the commission.
- overeem tested positive for 14:1 (as we knew). Overeem tried to flee the building at time of random test, jumped into a car and sped off despite being told that he had to stay to give a sample. Claims he "didn't realize" he needed to stick around and was going to an interview, then changed story that he was going to talk about his battery case, then changed story again that he was going to try to avoid golden glory serving him papers. Ufc says they made it entirely clear that he needed to stick around.
- overeem's lawyer goes with the "avoiding golden glory making a public spectacle" version of the excuse.
- they requested a 45-60 day continuance.
- lawyer says doctor gave overeem a vial of medication in dallas, overeem took one injection from vial and still has one. They're going to present the vial for examination but on it it says it is an anti-inflammatory.
- b-12, texamethazone, keterolec and testosterone were in the injection according to lawyer
- dr. Hector molina is the doctor who the lawyer claims reached the "medical conclusion" that he could alleviate the pain and suffering of overeem through multiple injuries with these injections.
- commission asks what overeem and representatives need that they don't have today and why they claim they need a continuance. Laywer says he's reading about testosterone and thinks that they can get experts who say the injection could have caused the spike.
- commission says that they could have 5 experts tell them it could have caused the spike, but there still was a spike. And they must consider that most of all.
- lawyer claims that they had overeem tested again but don't have the results yet and question why it took so long before he came up with a reason for the elevated levels.
- commission asks what guarantee there is that overeem would come back if granted a continuance. Lawyer says he will because he wants to continue fighting and that the lawyer will go get him if he has to.
- overeem says he won't take any fights, will work with the commission to prove that he is a "fair fighter" and will not apply in any other state for a license.
- commission says they rarely grant continuances and can't see a benefit to granting one.
- continuance is going to be denied as there is no benefit to the fighter or otherwise, 45 days makes no difference and it's in the public's interest to bring the matter to end rather than drag it out.
- overeem is being questioned about his injuries. Says he hurt his foot and ribs around the werdum fight.
- injuries continued to be aggravated through the lesnar fight and overeeem discussed that he was very sore for a long time. Got massages and ice for his ribs leading up to the brock fight.
- overeem questioning continues, basically a lot of asking about his injuries and if he took anything to deal with them. He is questioned for looking away after saying he didn't take anything for his ribs before the lesnar fight. He explains that english isn't his first language and he was just thinking.
- overeem continues to say he did not know the injection included testosterone.
- overeem says he was told to take a shot a week (after getting one in the office) but the pain was gone. He took the second shot and took one later on when he got sore again.
- overeem says that he was never informed by the ufc that he would be tested and was not running from the test after the press conference. That means that he's either saying keith kizer is a liar or that the ufc's claims to the nsac that they informed the fighters are a lie. Iffy choice there by overeem.
- overeem says tre telligman is who told him to see dr. Molina.
- overeem says he isn't upset with dr. Molina as he had no ill intention and was just trying to help. If he'd done it on purpose he'd be upset.
- again saying that no one informed him that there would be a test, which is why he left the press conference in a hurry when it was done rather than sticking around for a test.
- they stop questioning overeem, now moving on to questioning dr. Molina who says he has done testing for prior combat events and met overeem once during a strikeforce event but did not have a doctor/patient relationship at that point.
- molina says overeem said he had rib pain and thigh pain as well as left elbow pain and x-rays were negative.
- molina says that overeem told him he'd taken motrin (remember, earlier overeem said he never takes any pain killer including tylenol..etc)
- molina says that there was not enough testosterone in the injections to create an anabolic benefit for overeem.
- molina continuing to say the testosterone would only help alistair heal, not give him an advantage.
- molina continues saying he never told overeem that there was testosterone in the injection.
- a lot of circling the same questions over and over. What was overeem told? What did the doctor give him? What did he say on the forms that overeem was given? And overeem was not told that? ..etc.
- molina now admitting that he prescribed non-steroidal options for overeem and then mixed up the injection in house. Molina also doesn't know the names of things he was injecting which is...scary.
- doctor's story is starting to fall apart as it changes a bit at a time and as he is reminded he is under oath he stumbles and gets silent. This is a disaster.
- in the end, it's important to remember that everything is overeem's responsibility. He admitted that he never asked molina what was in the shot, molina never really told him. "i didn't know what was in the injection" will not be seen as an appropriate defense.
- overeem clarifies that, of course he takes motrin. He's a human being who does take over-the-counter medications, but not shots or more "serious" pain killers.
- ufc staff member clarifies that the camps were told that fighters could not leave, overeem was not told directly but his camp was informed not to leave.
- after a brief recess we're back and overeem's lawyer says the only options being considered should be a conditional license or a short suspension since overeem didn't get a benefit from the testosterone levels.
- lawyer says that overeem was injured entertaining thousands of people and that shouldn't be overlooked. He should not be punished harshly because of how "honest" he has been.
- overeem says that he gave up his title shot because he was no longer credible due to the media reports.
- commission member says he believes overeem today but that the overriding responsibility and burden is on an athlete to know what is in his body.
- "from what i've seen of overeem he's a champion, he fights like a champion and i have no reason to think he 'juices' himself with steroids. But i do know that i have a positive test in front of me." says commission member
- they're making it sound like a good enough case was not made for a conditional license. Motion is being made to make him wait 9 months rather than a full year.
- nsac saying 9 month period before he can reapply for a license would have to include the fighter not applying anywhere else for another fight. Around december 26-27th would be the end of overeem's suspension from applying for a new license.

honest
 
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waggy

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lol

his excuses are fucked up. That doctor should be banned from treating anyone ever again.




" "From what I've seen of Overeem he's a champion, he fights like a champion and I have no reason to think he 'juices' himself with steroids. But I do know that I have a positive test in front of me." says commission member"


Lol no reason to think he juices yet you have proof in front of you? WTF



NSAC saying 9 month period before he can reapply for a license would have to include the fighter not applying anywhere else for another fight. Around December 26-27th would be the end of Overeem's suspension from applying for a new license.


meh. not as bad as it should be. but still something
 
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Miramonti

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no suprise that they moved it out of rio.


it should be a good fight. sonnen kicked his ass (up until the sub heh) last time. though i don't see it happening again.

Sonnen didn't seem to have nearly the same relentless endurance in his last fight against bisbing than he had against silva. Teh juice? I don't know, but something was quite different. If brings the same weak energy against Silva this time, Silva's going to kick his @ss.
 
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