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Overclocking with the FX-57

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With the kind of money you have there, I would get a new case with better airflow, and definitely one with a stock fan blowing in right by the video cards like the Antec AWG1080. There are many other cases with similar airflow. Untel then, I would leave the side cover off and save all your hardware.

Edit, just saw above. If you duct one of those 80mm fans as suggested, make sure the airflow is towards the cpu, or the fans will be fighting each other and then you have a REAL problem. I still say new case may be a good idea.
 
maybe you would like to venture to watercooling? sure it would be a hassle, and scary as hell, but when you have the chance of losing a 1,000 dollar chip... i think that might be the way to go for you.
 
If you duct one of those 80mm fans as suggested, make sure the airflow is towards the cpu, or the fans will be fighting each other and then you have a REAL problem.
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Yeah, I meant that. 🙂 Assuming your CPU fan is blowing down, which most are. You may also have to rig something up at the back to move the exhaust 80mm fan airflow away from the ducted one, otherwise the intake will probably just suck up the exhausted hot air from the other fan, which gets you nowhere.

Why did Silverstone go with 2x80mm? Is it really that hard to put a single 120mm instead?
 
Originally posted by: addinator
maybe you would like to venture to watercooling? sure it would be a hassle, and scary as hell, but when you have the chance of losing a 1,000 dollar chip... i think that might be the way to go for you.
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so instead, he should venture into water where he could lose his mobo, cpu, video card, ram?

he's struggling to get his air temps down.. you think he's ready for watercooling?

i say take everything off and remount. it has to be a contact issue between the cpu and hsf.

i removed the IHS off of my chip and i know when there's good contact and bad cuz the idle temps will change from upwards to 50C's to mid 30C's when there's good contact.
 
I think that since his temps are good with the case cover off, thats means that he DOES have it mounted correctly. Case airflow is where the focus needs to be.
 
Originally posted by: EvilRage
Alright, I took off the side panel, and the temps went from around 60 or so at idle, to 50 at idle, and about 55 at load.
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He's not getting good temps with the side off.

Definitely sounds like a CPU / HSF contact problem. Did you clean the HSF and CPU core properly when you reseated them? Did you follow the Arctic Silver 5 Instructions to the word?

Just checking as it is very important to do those things.

 
The 7000 Zalmann is not known for great cooling on an OC that big (2.9). So I think 50c is not bad under the circumstances. But does anybody else have an FX-57 with that HSF at that speed ? and what are their temps ?
 
I would def. invest in a new HSFU. My Zalman 7700 couldn't cool down my 3800+ when it was OC'd, and a 7000 is smaller. get a TT big typhoon or an XP-120 and a decent speed panaflo.
 
Originally posted by: Markfw900
With the kind of money you have there, I would get a new case with better airflow, and definitely one with a stock fan blowing in right by the video cards like the Antec AWG1080. There are many other cases with similar airflow. Untel then, I would leave the side cover off and save all your hardware.

Edit, just saw above. If you duct one of those 80mm fans as suggested, make sure the airflow is towards the cpu, or the fans will be fighting each other and then you have a REAL problem. I still say new case may be a good idea.
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Just so you know, I don't have that kind of money, it's already spent on all the stuff I spent it on. =p

Don't really want to replace the case, as basically that's a $300+ investment I'd lose, too. If I can make things work with the case I have, and only put small amounts of time/energy/money into it, I'll do it that way instead. Plus, I like this case. It's nifty.

Originally posted by: Shimmishim
i say take everything off and remount. it has to be a contact issue between the cpu and hsf.

i removed the IHS off of my chip and i know when there's good contact and bad cuz the idle temps will change from upwards to 50C's to mid 30C's when there's good contact.
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Tried that. Temp improvement was negligible. Applied the AS5 as it was stated on the website, and... well, yeah, basically nothing changed. Contact appears to be good, plus I don't imagine I'd screw up HSF installation twice... hmm.

Originally posted by: Mogadon
Definitely sounds like a CPU / HSF contact problem. Did you clean the HSF and CPU core properly when you reseated them? Did you follow the Arctic Silver 5 Instructions to the word?

Just checking as it is very important to do those things.
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When I removed/reseated the HSF, I used 70% rubbing alcohol and a lint-free cloth to clean the AS5 off from the previous application, then put a small dot of AS5 in the center of the processor, set the HSF down on it, twisted it a little, and mounted it.

Originally posted by: Markfw900
The 7000 Zalmann is not known for great cooling on an OC that big (2.9). So I think 50c is not bad under the circumstances.
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This is at stock speed, with no OC. 2.8 GHz my friend. Still, if it's that bad @ 2.9, I imagine performance @ 2.8 isn't loads better.

Originally posted by: Markfw900
But does anybody else have an FX-57 with that HSF at that speed ? and what are their temps ?
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Good question. I'd like to know how people with similar setups are cooling, what case, what HSF, any other ideas, etc etc.

Originally posted by: Leper Messiah
I would def. invest in a new HSFU. My Zalman 7700 couldn't cool down my 3800+ when it was OC'd, and a 7000 is smaller. get a TT big typhoon or an XP-120 and a decent speed panaflo.
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I'm thinking of the new Zalman 9500, as it's not quite as heavy as the big typhoon. Even if weight isn't a big concern to most people, I'd rather not have a humongous heavy heatsink if I can have a lighter one that's just as effective. Looks like the XP-120 weighs in at 370 grams; with a fan that shouldn't increase much. I'm not familiar with the panaflo model line; for the XP-120, what size fans would fit, and what speeds are available? Since the rest of my components are fairly noisy, I don't think it'll be an issue if I can get one that moves lots of air but is a bit on the loud side. Or, if there's something cool and quiet, then that's even better. Anyone have any personal experiences here?
 
Well, in comparison, I spent some time this weekend with my box. I managed to get it up to 3050GHz without a hitch (turns out my other board was on it's way out, so I picked up a new one), and I'm running stable and happy.

What's even more satisfying, I suppose, are the temps.

http://server.counter-strike.net/images/misc/temps4.png - This is load
http://server.counter-strike.net/images/misc/temps5.png - This is idle

EvilRage, the ability is there. You just have to figure out where the problem is (those temps are way too high, btw). You might want to dremel the side of the case and add some intakes where the vid cards are. That would help both the CPU and the GPUs (I ended up doing that with mine when I was using 6800U's...damn things got HOT..so hot they artifacted, as a matter of fact).
 
Sounds like the XP-120 w/panaflo M1A is the way to go.

Ok, so I'll also need to buy a dremel and start practicing. What kind of material are case windows made out of, and where can i get a few sheets of it cheap?

Edit: It's made from acrylic.

Also, if I add an intake where my vid cards are at, my only concern is dust getting in. where would I be able to get a decent fliter?
 
Originally posted by: EvilRage
Sounds like the XP-120 w/panaflo M1A is the way to go.

Ok, so I'll also need to buy a dremel and start practicing. What kind of material are case windows made out of, and where can i get a few sheets of it cheap?

Edit: It's made from acylic.

Also, if I add an intake where my vid cards are at, my only concern is dust getting in. where would I be able to get a decent fliter?
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I wouldn't worry about the filter much. Just take a can of compressed air every once in a while to it and you'll be fine.
 
Gotcha. Where's a good place to buy the heatsink AND the fan? Or where did you guys get them? Also, is there a prettier solution of any kind? While I'll be happy getting my temps lower, I'd like to keep my case looking decent. Black fans aren't exactly the most eye-catching component, no? Are there any fans with similar performance that maybe have a blue LED or something? (used to that since my Zalman 7000 has a blue one) If not, I suppose I can figure something out.

Also, pictures: Cable Management, Rig w/CPU Retail Boxes
 
Looks like these guys:

http://www.bestbyteinc.com/

Newegg has em, but they're higher priced.

Links to each site:

http://www.bestbyteinc.com/prodinfo.asp?number=FAN-PAN-12M&variation= - $19.13
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a...6835180087&CMP=OTC-pr1c3watch&ATT=Fans - $22.98

http://www.bestbyteinc.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HSK-TRI-XP12&variation= - $51.94
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a...6835109118&CMP=OTC-pr1c3watch&ATT=Fans - $74.98

I'll take some pics tonight of the inside of my machine and you can make your determination. 🙂
 
I might just go with the new Zalman cooler... after pricing the two of them, the XP-120 w/fan comes out to a little bit more, plus the Zalman is a little lighter. Cooling performance seems to be about the same when both are running at max, and even if the Zalman is that much louder, I think I'll be ok.
 
I thought I'd share with you the results I have with the Zalman CNPS7700-CU (taken from an MS-7093, using SpeedFan, since that's the only thing I could find that would read the temps on the board). Note also this was with a 4800+ X2 installed in the machine, running at stock speed.

http://server.counter-strike.net/images/misc/temps6.png - Idle
http://server.counter-strike.net/images/misc/temps7.png - Load

Now, don't get me wrong. Zalman makes great HSF's, and I've used them in the past (hell, obviously I still use them), but it would seem that the XP-120 is a better choice here. 🙂

 
Originally posted by: Mogadon
The Thermaltake Big Typhoon is at least equal to and possibly better than both the XP-120 and the Zalman.
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it's heavy though, and that's what i'm worried about... i don't feel comfortable putting a whole lot of weight on my processor. Maybe that's just me, i dunno, are my fears justified?
 
If you don't move your case around much, then the weight won't really matter. You should only be concerned if you constantly move it, as that's when possible excess pressure can be applied.
 
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