Overclocking H67. What do you think?

[InternetUser]

the best i could find from .nl is this:

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=nl&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fnl.hardware.info%2Freviews%2F1949%2F15%2F5-intel-h67-moederborden-review-conclusie

lol they are talking about those ln2 overclockers guys as well.

http://content.hwigroup.net/images/products_larges/114562/13/intel-dh67bl.jpg

Intel DH67BL screenshot, and it looks you cannot even change turbo multi at all.

MSI BIOS: http://content.hwigroup.net/images/products_larges/114270/10/msi-h67ma-ed55.jpg

flat out says cpu ratio is locked. and its the 2500K, right above on the same screen.

^^^^EDIT: they are using an ES cpu.

 

[PreferLinux]

Thanks for the link. The first page is the one with their comments about overclocking.

 

[PreferLinux]

I've been thinking. All Intel has said is that you need a P67 board to overclock, not that H67 does not overclock. Now, it would seem that they mean the same thing. But, they could be referring to only Intel boards, an artificial limitation they want imposed or the impression they want potential customers to get. (If we find that H67 boards overclock fine, I think you would have a very hard time convincing most readers of the initial reviews of that fact.)

I have looked at the chipset datasheet, and there is no reference to overclocking or multipliers. If H67 has no overclocking ability, I would expect it to be mentioned there. Conversely, if it is not mentioned there, I would expect it to be able to overclock.

 

[beginner99]

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/reviews/processors/...el-sandy-bridge
Here's proof: H67 CAN multiplier overclock the CPU! Unless they got the base clock to 121 while all other reviews cannot get past 110, most not past 105.

Read the comments. Readers asked this exact question and the editor said it was a mistake in the review and the overlocking tests where done on a P67 mobo.

So I'm pretty sure it will not work making it completely retarded to only have the fastest gpu in the k series...

Anyone seen a review/benchmark of QuickSync in non-k series SB? eg. with only 6 EUs?

 

[Vov]

Is this true overclocking?

It's H67 with 2500K.

http://en.ocworkbench.com/tech/asrock-h67m-geht-intel-h67-board-full-review/5/

Found at Hardforum.

 

[Hogan773]

hard to tell from the video but it appeared he was still at 3.3ghz after all his mouse clicking, and thats what CPUID showed near the end of his video

 

[InternetUser]

Nice find.

We need to confirm it, could be a mistake like with the pcpro review.

 

[mv2devnull]

Anyone seen a review/benchmark of QuickSync in non-k series SB? eg. with only 6 EUs?

Does anyone bother to review any non-k while they are still having fun with the k's?

So odd. At first it did seem that k's are for oc on P67, and H67 is for non-oc, non-k, integrated graphics. Yet, the only k's have the 12 EU IGP.

 

[coffeejunkee]

Is this true overclocking?

It's H67 with 2500K.

http://en.ocworkbench.com/tech/asrock-h67m-geht-intel-h67-board-full-review/5/

Found at Hardforum.

From the conlusion: "Overclocking wise, we managed to run the CPU up to ~3.7GHz on AIR. Thecpu multiplier can’t go further than 37x (using ASRock oc tool). In fact, we are more interested to share that the GPU clk can be clocked up from 1.1GHz to 1.9GHz giving a big boost to 3D performance."

So that seems to indicate you can adjust the multiplier but only up to the maximum turbo multiplier on K chips. At least when using Asrock oc tool...

Pity the 5 min bios video tells us exactly nothing.

About Google Dutch translation: read 'board' where it says 'sign' (motherboard = moederbord, trafficsign = verkeersbord, the sign is on a board after all)

 

[PreferLinux]

Well, according to Gigabyte, their GA-H67MA-UD2H does not support overclocking ("According to specification, GA-H67M-UD2H does not support overclock function."). I don't know what "specification" they are referring to, as the board specifications don't say anything, and neither do those for their P67 boards. I am yet to hear from Asus.

 

[InternetUser]

Looks like the best we can expect from h67 is indeed just turbo boost

 

[PreferLinux]

info: Please wait for a site operator to respond.
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xx@xxxx.xxx: Hi,
Victor: Hello. Thank you for using the Intel Customer Support chat service. We are glad to be of service. How can I help you today?
xx@xxxx.xxx: According to http://www.intel.com/consumer/game/gaming-power.htm, overclocking 2nd Gen Core processors requires a P67 chipset. According to http://www.intel.com/Assets/PDF/prodbrief/324586.pdf, H67 supports the overclocking features of unlocked 2nd gen Core processors. Which is correct?
xx@xxxx.xxx: I may add that the overview page for the F67 chipset refers to P67.
xx@xxxx.xxx: H67, I mean, not F.
Victor: On the information that I have, both chipset's H and P will support the overclocking on unlocked processors. This will depend on the integration of the chipset and the BIOS.
xx@xxxx.xxx: Very interesting! Nearly all the reviews I have read state that only P67 supports overclocking.
Victor: Currently in our motherboards the P67 chipset motherboard has enabled the overclocking features.
xx@xxxx.xxx: Thankyou. So it is dependent on the motherboard manufacture as to whether an H67 board can overclock or not, I believe.
Victor: Correct.
xx@xxxx.xxx: OK. Now I know what I'll be doing, thankyou.
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Chat transcript with Intel customer service.

 

[InternetUser]

front-line chat reps have as much information as we do.

they're just there to setup RMAs, provide canned answers to get you off the line quickly to keep up their stats, and let frustrated people vent.

so far looks like H67 doesnt overclock..im just wondering if LNO has ES samples of mobo, that would let them overclock it?

 

[PreferLinux]

Well, when you go through the live chat, you can select that it is a technical question, which I did. I would think they would be intelligent enough to have you chatting with someone that knows something, or at least has access to the information.

 

[aigomorla]

Gah u guys are a mess!

Do i need to ask giggy for you guys directly?

Meh.. i'll shoot off an Email to a contact i met @ CES.
I was looking for a reason to email her and say hi.

 

[dougri]

so far looks like H67 doesnt overclock..im just wondering if LNO has ES samples of mobo, that would let them overclock it?

No... at last correspondence, they had not yet OC'd on H67, they stated OC on ES was not possible, but had been assured by their vendor that on the production boards it would be, and stated they had observed a demo of such. Nevertheless, given everything else and no proven H67 OC two days after launch, I'm assuming H67 does not overclock. At least not with current versions of BIOS/EFI. I'm beginning to think LNO got a demo of IGP overclocking and got confused

 

[kkk60091]

tested retail 2600k on giga h67ma-ud2h bios F6. you can not overclock at all.
no idea why GA even bother to put all those voltage controls there, since you can't overclock the cpu~~

 

[dougri]

tested retail 2600k on giga h67ma-ud2h bios F6. you can not overclock at all.
no idea why GA even bother to put all those voltage controls there, since you can't overclock the cpu~~

Have you tried it with a discrete GPU such that the IGP is inactive?

 

[kkk60091]

Have you tried it with a discrete GPU such that the IGP is inactive?

doesn't matter. tried with IGP and without IGP.

either H67 doesn't support overclock at all or GA chooses not to enable it.

well, GA may just screwed up something as the DOS bios update doesn't even work (can only update bios in windows)

 

[reb0rn]

I think confusion is because intel let you overclock the GPU with H67 and not the CPU multi and call it overclock even if its only for GPU part...

I think generic bios for H chipset has no support for changing multi on K models, but i don`t think they will release and unlock it

 

[PreferLinux]

I think confusion is because intel let you overclock the GPU with H67 and not the CPU multi and call it overclock even if its only for GPU part...

I think generic bios for H chipset has no support for changing multi on K models, but i don`t think they will release and unlock it

Well, the BIOS is customised for the board.

 

[PreferLinux]

tested retail 2600k on giga h67ma-ud2h bios F6. you can not overclock at all.
no idea why GA even bother to put all those voltage controls there, since you can't overclock the cpu~~

Can you change the turbo multipliers?

 

[kkk60091]

Can you change the turbo multipliers?

nope, grayed out, can't be changed.

cpu multiplier can be changed (max is 38 on 2600k, which is the max turbo multiplier for one core). however, it doesn't really have any effect. when you select 38 and reboot, nothing happens.

 

[InternetUser]

whats the multi on boot in idle? is it possible to at least boost it to the max turbo multi 24/7?

 

[PreferLinux]

What about changes made with software? I note Gigabyte told me (the tech support that seems to know nothing) that the GA-H67MA-UD2H cannot overclock.