Overclocking E6600 - confused

[choli00090]

Hi Folks,

I was planning on trying to overclock my E6600, as my current board only allows me to overclock by 1 or 2 mhz.

What I am thinking about getting is a Gigabyte GA-945GCMX-S2 motherboard & I have 2 - 1 gig ddr 2 667 mhz (Kingston) I am currently using a Intel stock fan, which I know that I will have to obtain a better fan/heatsink.

I was wondering based upon the equipment I have & planning on purchasing, to what speed should I be able to obtain. My system stays on 24/7.

Also for people using this board & are overclocking, what settings do you have set on the board (memory, vcore, etc)

Thanks!!

 

[Sled]

If you are considering to buy a new mobo for overclocking, maybe you can consider a 965, 975, 650, 680 or P35 or even an X38. 945 chipset is kind of an old chipset and IMO, it'll be hard for you to find a support in the long run.

 

[myocardia]

I think it's most about the price: $54.95. For that price, even if he can't max out his chip, it's kind of hard to argue, you know?

 

[choli00090]

Yes I want to try to keep this as cheap as possible, but willing to spend little extra if the overclock is pretty decent compared to the board I am thinking about. So the 965, 975, 650, etc are those the chipset #'s or board model #'s & if so are those still Gigabyte, or other companies (Abit, Asus, etc)

 

[Sled]

OK, when you are considering about Overclocking, you'll need a little high budget because you'll need a good mainboard which are proved to be a good overclocker, surely a heatsink (you can stick on intel HSF, but don't expect a good result on the long run), a good thermal grease, a good power supply, a good air flow inside your case (means good and more than one fans), sometimes you have to take care about the quality of RAM and GPU or other peripherals, you need knowledge on BIOS and most important is patience and try and error method.

I don't mean to discourage you from overclocking or mocking you from your budget, but please try to consider first about the budget that you will spent on this if you are really on the tight situation, i just don't want you've blown your pocket but you are not satisfied for what you get.

965, 975, 650 is the chipset. 965, 975, P35 and X38 are intel chipset while 650 and 680i are Nvidia chipset. The chipset is planted into mainboard such Asus, Gigabyte, MSI etc. There are lots of mainboard series eg. Asus P5K has intel P35 chipset or like mine (on the sig) GA-965P-DS3 is a Gigabyte with intel P965 chipset or Asus Striker extreme has Nvidia 680i chipset or Asus P5N32-E SLI plus has Nvidia 650 chipset. Each mainboard manufacturer can create different series from one chipset (low value mainboard until high value mainboard).

 

[jeffw2767602]

This is about as cheap as you are going to be able to keep it if you want to max out your chip....

Low end Gigabyte P35 Motherboard (GA-P35-DS3L) $100 OR
ABIT IP35-E $70 After Rebate

2x1GB Crucial Ballistix pc6400 $60 After Rebate

Decent Heatsink $30-$60

So that equals between $160-$220 depending upon which parts you get. Sell your old RAM and MOBO on ebay or something and hope to get $30-$50 (total) out of them and you could have your E6600 running at 3.6GHz(not certain, as always it depends on the chip) for a few bucks over $100.

Oh yea, make sure you have a decent power supply as Sled said. And I can not stress this enough...DO YOUR RESEARCH before you jump into overclocking. I am a first time overclocker (first time builder as well) and I was very successful because I did a lot of research. I got my Q6600, which is just 2 E6600's slapped onto the same chip, up to 3.6GHz with little fuss because I knew what I was getting into. And I got a pretty good chip . Knowing what you are doing (or at least what to expect) will make the entire experience much better.

 

[SerpentRoyal]

IP35-E @ MWAVE is $66 AR, minus another $5 PriceGrabber Review...final cost $61 plus tax and shipping.

 

[bryanW1995]

ip 35 e is far and away your best bet if you're looking to oc on a tight budget.

 

[Garster]

Actually, your current memory should be fine. Just get a good board and power supply that has been stated in the above posts. At 3 ghz your memory will be running at rated speed (667) with an E6600. I've played with 3 or 4 E6600's and all did 3.2 ghz.
3.0 ghz with stock cooler should be very possible

 

[choli00090]

Thanks for everyone's responses. I looked at both boards that were mentioned earlier (ABIT IP35-E & GA-P35-DS3L) & will have to do some more research. I did have a couple of questions. The first one being is why is the IP35-E a better board between the two & the other was to see if my current power supply would be good for the overclock or not. Currently I am using a "Ultra" (brand name, not sure what model) I tried doing a search to see if I could find anything that said if that was a good PS for overclocking or if it was a crappy one for it. I do remember it being 600w.

My original plan was to upgrade my video card to something more recent from when I purchased it 5 yrs ago (ATI 7500 128 meg All in wonder) but then decided to also look at overclocking to get more bang for my buck.

 

[SerpentRoyal]

IP35-E is stable up to 500MHz FSB with PWM heat sink. It is a full-size board. DS3L tops out around 440MHz FSB. BIOS is less intuitive. C1E and EIST disengages at high FSB. Finally, the onboard fan speed control cannot interface with a 2-wire fan.

I use the Ultra X-Finity 600 as my reference test PSU.

 

[choli00090]

I ended up getting a Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3R. Everything is working fine so far & I was able to bump my fsb to 333 to get 3ghz, to which Windows booted up fine. However I am confused on what is considered "safe" temps.

For instance Core temp .95 says Tjunction 85c Core0 39c Core1 39c & Speedfan says Temp1 43c Temp3 32c Temp3 -2c Temp 58c Core0 & Core1 matches what Core Temp says. I wan Orthos for 10 minutes (I know I need to run longer) & my core temps bumped up to around 60c

I read one message that says to make sure the temp is below the 85c for the Tjunction, then another message states that the label is wrong & should say "Max Tjunction before shutdown"

Overall what temps are the ones to watch & what is the range that is considered safe ? IF I read right, the max for the cores is 85c. I just read something that mentioned that 85c is the max, but to stay around 20-25c below that at all times.


Also I know I should get a better HS/Fan. One I was looking at was the Scythe SCNJ-1100P (Ninja) or if someone had any other recommendations on fans that DO NOT require a piece to put place on the back of the board

Thanks

 

[Sled]

Originally posted by: choli00090
I ended up getting a Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3R. Everything is working fine so far & I was able to bump my fsb to 333 to get 3ghz, to which Windows booted up fine. However I am confused on what is considered "safe" temps.

For instance Core temp .95 says Tjunction 85c Core0 39c Core1 39c & Speedfan says Temp1 43c Temp3 32c Temp3 -2c Temp 58c Core0 & Core1 matches what Core Temp says. I wan Orthos for 10 minutes (I know I need to run longer) & my core temps bumped up to around 60c

I read one message that says to make sure the temp is below the 85c for the Tjunction, then another message states that the label is wrong & should say "Max Tjunction before shutdown"

Overall what temps are the ones to watch & what is the range that is considered safe ? IF I read right, the max for the cores is 85c. I just read something that mentioned that 85c is the max, but to stay around 20-25c below that at all times.


Also I know I should get a better HS/Fan. One I was looking at was the Scythe SCNJ-1100P (Ninja) or if someone had any other recommendations on fans that DO NOT require a piece to put place on the back of the board

Thanks

http://processorfinder.intel.c...tails.aspx?sSpec=SL9S8
You can check E6600 thermal specs.
Here's a guide about C2D and C2Quad temperature : http://www.tomshardware.com/fo...quad-temperature-guide
check on "scale 5 : Duo"

For the HSF, you can buy Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro. You don't have to open your mobo fom the case when installing this.

 

[myocardia]

Originally posted by: choli00090
Also I know I should get a better HS/Fan. One I was looking at was the Scythe SCNJ-1100P (Ninja) or if someone had any other recommendations on fans that DO NOT require a piece to put place on the back of the board

The Scythe Ninja doesn't require a backplate. Well, the newer version doesn't, anyway. It's called the Ninja B: http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16835185038 Of course, if you aren't going to be overclocking any higher than 3.0 Ghz, you don't need a Ninja. The AC Freezer 7 Pro is more than enough for only 3 Ghz: link.

 

[SerpentRoyal]

Originally posted by: choli00090
I ended up getting a Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3R. Everything is working fine so far & I was able to bump my fsb to 333 to get 3ghz, to which Windows booted up fine. However I am confused on what is considered "safe" temps.

For instance Core temp .95 says Tjunction 85c Core0 39c Core1 39c & Speedfan says Temp1 43c Temp3 32c Temp3 -2c Temp 58c Core0 & Core1 matches what Core Temp says. I wan Orthos for 10 minutes (I know I need to run longer) & my core temps bumped up to around 60c

I read one message that says to make sure the temp is below the 85c for the Tjunction, then another message states that the label is wrong & should say "Max Tjunction before shutdown"

Overall what temps are the ones to watch & what is the range that is considered safe ? IF I read right, the max for the cores is 85c. I just read something that mentioned that 85c is the max, but to stay around 20-25c below that at all times.


Also I know I should get a better HS/Fan. One I was looking at was the Scythe SCNJ-1100P (Ninja) or if someone had any other recommendations on fans that DO NOT require a piece to put place on the back of the board

Thanks

$2 AR heat pipe cooler. Not the best but should be able to take your CPU north of 3.2GHz.

http://www.clubit.com/product_...il.cfm?itemno=A1906910