Overclocking a Athlon XP 2100+

BugsBMD

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I am looking for tips for overclocking my processor. I have a thoroughbred B processor. My mother board is a Chaintech Zenith CT-7JNS (nforce 2 ultra 400 Chipset). I have had some success and have gotten the FSB prosessor and processor to 166 MHz x 12. My generic ram seems to be the problem it will not go higher then pc2700 speeds(that is its default speeds) I do not know what the model or brand(my ram has heat sinks and if I remove them I would void the warranty.

Please LMK the specifics of any info you nead.

Thanks
 

myocardia

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Originally posted by: BenDiercks
I am looking for tipes for overclocking my processor. I have a nforce 2 utra 400 and my ram will not go higher then pc2700 speeds.
That's not enough to get a response. Try actually telling us what hardware we're dealing with.
 

Clon22

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Maybe you can run the ram on lower latencies and increase the dimm voltage
 

SickBeast

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It should be multiplier unlocked so just crank it up one step at a time until you hit the wall. If you have a tbred-b then you should be looking at around 2300mhz if you're lucky.
 

Wigwam

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Originally posted by: BenDiercks
I am looking for tipes for overclocking my processor. I have a nforce 2 utra 400 and my ram will not go higher then pc2700 speeds.

Thanks

whack it up to 166mhz [which your ram can handle] then crank the multi upto 12 at least and 13 depending upon your cooling.
ram timings depend on the quality but aim for 6-2-2-2
 

MDE

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Originally posted by: Wigwam
Originally posted by: BenDiercks
I am looking for tipes for overclocking my processor. I have a nforce 2 utra 400 and my ram will not go higher then pc2700 speeds.

Thanks

whack it up to 166mhz [which your ram can handle] then crank the multi upto 12 at least and 13 depending upon your cooling.
ram timings depend on the quality but aim for 6-2-2-2
On an nForce2, go for 11-2-2-2
 

Wigwam

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On an nForce2, go for 11-2-2-2

i thought there were a few reviews that showed that the 1-2-2-2 thing was only faster at 200mhz; below that the lower timings won
certainly for me at 166mhz 6 is [marginally] faster than 11
 

Wigwam

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bump all you want, but no-one can help you with no info about your setup
you have cheap-ass generic pc2700 and it wont work beyond its rated speed - it happens.
easy fix, get some better ram.
 

peonyu

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Download Aida32 , it will tell you if you have a Tbred A or B.

If you have a Tbred B then you are pretty much guaranteed to hit atleast 2.2 ghz, if its a A then you may hit 1.9-2 ghz.

As for going beyond 166 fsb...you can try, but if it doesnt i wouldnt worry about it. Theres really not enough of a difference between 166 & 200 to justify the cost. If you can hit 166x13.5 [2800+] you should be set for atleast a year, 14x and higher would be even better and so on.
 

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Similar question.......in that I am new and don't know what im doing and I have a 2100+.

I have a Tbred B on a K7N2G-ilsr motherboard with Crucial PC 2700. I am using stock cooling. My question is, if I increase the FSB to 166 and don't mess with anything else, will I damage my system. I downloaded Aida and checked my temps through that, it reads my motherboard at ~ 45C and my CPU at ~ 47C while the system is pretty much idle.

Help would be much appreciated, I'm obviously very new to this stuff.
 

myocardia

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Originally posted by: Deucer
Similar question.......in that I am new and don't know what im doing and I have a 2100+.

I have a Tbred B on a K7N2G-ilsr motherboard with Crucial PC 2700. I am using stock cooling. My question is, if I increase the FSB to 166 and don't mess with anything else, will I damage my system. I downloaded Aida and checked my temps through that, it reads my motherboard at ~ 45C and my CPU at ~ 47C while the system is pretty much idle.

Help would be much appreciated, I'm obviously very new to this stuff.
You're gonna have to get some case airflow (i.e.-- 80mm or larger fans) before you'll be able to overclock. 45°C is HOT for a northbridge, as is 47°C for a cpu idle temp.
 

myocardia

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Originally posted by: BenDiercks
I repeat my question, what info do you need?

Please LMK
Ben, we'll need to know which chip you have. AMD made the XP2100 with 3 different cores, a Palomino, a T-bred A, and a T-bred B. We'll need to know what brand and model of motherboard you own, what brand and model of ram you have, and what brand and model of power supply you have. With that, you'll get some answers.
 

Wigwam

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Originally posted by: myocardia
Originally posted by: Deucer
Similar question.......in that I am new and don't know what im doing and I have a 2100+.

I have a Tbred B on a K7N2G-ilsr motherboard with Crucial PC 2700. I am using stock cooling. My question is, if I increase the FSB to 166 and don't mess with anything else, will I damage my system. I downloaded Aida and checked my temps through that, it reads my motherboard at ~ 45C and my CPU at ~ 47C while the system is pretty much idle.

Help would be much appreciated, I'm obviously very new to this stuff.
You're gonna have to get some case airflow (i.e.-- 80mm or larger fans) before you'll be able to overclock. 45°C is HOT for a northbridge, as is 47°C for a cpu idle temp.

gonna have to disagree with you here myocardia....speaking as very much an amateur as well i bumped by 2100+ straight from 13x133 to 12x166 and with stock cooling it idled at 49C and was 55C at load but the system was rock stable [had it this way for months before i improved the cooling].
yes cooler = better but those temps arent gotta hurt anyone....i'd day check your load temp and if it sub 60C [diode temp i mean, not socket] then go for it.
 

myocardia

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Originally posted by: Wigwam
Originally posted by: myocardia
Originally posted by: Deucer
Similar question.......in that I am new and don't know what im doing and I have a 2100+.

I have a Tbred B on a K7N2G-ilsr motherboard with Crucial PC 2700. I am using stock cooling. My question is, if I increase the FSB to 166 and don't mess with anything else, will I damage my system. I downloaded Aida and checked my temps through that, it reads my motherboard at ~ 45C and my CPU at ~ 47C while the system is pretty much idle.

Help would be much appreciated, I'm obviously very new to this stuff.
You're gonna have to get some case airflow (i.e.-- 80mm or larger fans) before you'll be able to overclock. 45°C is HOT for a northbridge, as is 47°C for a cpu idle temp.

gonna have to disagree with you here myocardia....speaking as very much an amateur as well i bumped by 2100+ straight from 13x133 to 12x166 and with stock cooling it idled at 49C and was 55C at load but the system was rock stable [had it this way for months before i improved the cooling].
yes cooler = better but those temps arent gotta hurt anyone....i'd day check your load temp and if it sub 60C [diode temp i mean, not socket] then go for it.
So, if you think your case airflow and his case airflow are the same, just let me know what your NB temp is. Mine, btw, is ~30 under 100% load in ~70F room and 32F in ~75-76F room. If his cpu is idling at ~47C (and more than likely it's higher when idling with Windows running) it's more than likely going to be ~65+C, since he obviously has no case airflow.
 

myocardia

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Originally posted by: Wigwam
On an nForce2, go for 11-2-2-2

i thought there were a few reviews that showed that the 1-2-2-2 thing was only faster at 200mhz; below that the lower timings won
certainly for me at 166mhz 6 is [marginally] faster than 11
You're right, you need to be at or around 200fsb or higher before it makes helps.
 

Wigwam

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[q I downloaded Aida and checked my temps through that, it reads my motherboard at ~ 45C and my CPU at ~ 47C while the system is pretty much idle[/quote]
You're gonna have to get some case airflow (i.e.-- 80mm or larger fans) before you'll be able to overclock. 45°C is HOT for a northbridge, as is 47°C for a cpu idle temp.[/quote]

i bumped by 2100+ straight from 13x133 to 12x166 and with stock cooling it idled at 49C and was 55C at load but the system was rock stable [had it this way for months before i improved the cooling].
yes cooler = better but those temps arent gotta hurt anyone....i'd day check your load temp and if it sub 60C [diode temp i mean, not socket] then go for it.[/quote]
So, if you think your case airflow and his case airflow are the same, just let me know what your NB temp is. Mine, btw, is ~30 under 100% load in ~70F room and 32F in ~75-76F room. If his cpu is idling at ~47C (and more than likely it's higher when idling with Windows running) it's more than likely going to be ~65+C, since he obviously has no case airflow.[/quote]

i didnt mean i thought that our case airflow is the same, and yes, looking at the northbridge aspect i take your point as mine also is ~30C. all i meant was that 47C idle wouldnt really hurt but the real answer would be to know his load temps
 

SparkyJJO

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Hey not to be rude or anything but Bendiercks started this thread so I think we should address his problem in his thread. If Deucer has temp problems or whatever, I have nothing against helping him out, but if he could take his discussion to a new thread of his own that would probably help both Bendiercks AND Deucer with their respective problems. So please get this discussion back ON TRACK people ;)

OK, I have a feeling that the only way that you are going to get higher than you are currently is get new memory, at this point I'd go for PC3200. Newegg has some Mushkin 512MB PC3200 for about $80-ish last I knew, that would probably be better than what you've got now. I'm sure that you could sell your old stuff here to someone who just needs some cheap PC2700 that works at normal speeds :)
 

Wigwam

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to be fair, we did.
he has editted his original post to add in alot of the info we asked for [and which wasnt forthcoming initially]
he was also advised that he should be able to run 12 or 13x266 with generic pc2700 ram and that any more would need better ram.

yes the thread was hijacked but that was cos we pretty much went as far as we could with what Ben wanted.
i do agree though that thread hijacking is abit naughty and deucer should have posted lesewhere....ppl respond to whatever questions are asked and it is annoying for the original poster to have their questions left in favour of the hijackers' [though it didnt really happen in this case!]
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