Overclocked CPUs worth nothing?

[Visaoni]

This. I like the "used car" analogy. I don't care how fast somebody got it or how much abuse they may have put it through; it's still used, and definitely not worth a premium over the same thing but new.

The difference between a car and a chip is that, well, how are you going to do the equivalent of overclocking a car? Certainly the analogy holds for possible wear and tear, as well as for possible damage, but as for getting extra performance from the stock parts... not so much.

A chip that hasn't been on suicide runs, but has been proven to overclock to x-amount with a particular motherboard and so many volts at such and such a temperature is certainly more valuable than a retail chip if you intend to overclock it. The retail chip you get hasn't been exposed to high voltages, but it may also refuse to go beyond a few hundred extra mhz. A nicely overclocked chip shouldn't be much worse for it, and will pretty much give you a guaranteed clock. That is worth something.

 

[aigomorla]

How many of you guys wanna make a bet.

That i would fetch a higher price on my USED Overclocked 975
vs.

a Slightly used NON overclocked 975.

IF i sold it... although Fat chance... i wouldnt violate my sponsors trust like that....

It has to do with the person.
If the person wants a gaurentee'd fast overclock, dont underestimate the depths of there wallet.

If the person is a total consumer, doesnt understand Overclocking, then he doesnt want to touch it with a 10 foot pole.

However if u show the ignorant person, an overclocked machine, and watch his face going OMG after you tear his benchmarks to pieces they change.

Why? GREED.

and honestly, larry if the guy is complaining about a P4, usually to me thats BAD NEWS.
First off if he's bickering with you on a P4, then its not worth your time.
Honestly when was the last time a P4 was used? The guy to me sounds SUPER frugal, and therefore its a no win situation.

For example a nehalem at 4.2GHz on stock volts.

How about 4.43 /w HT ON @ 1.375?

Lets not even talk about the gulftown im holding. :X
That could EASILY fetch 4 figures IF i was evil and sold it.
And for SURE its been overclocked.

 

[MrK6]

and honestly, larry if the guy is complaining about a P4, usually to me thats BAD NEWS.
First off if he's bickering with you on a P4, then its not worth your time.
Honestly when was the last time a P4 was used? The guy to me sounds SUPER frugal, and therefore its a no win situation.

Excellent advice. That's usually the point when I back out as well. The only time I was in such a situation and I didn't it, ended badly.

Also, very nice chip

 

[v8envy]

Ask him if he'll pay you more if you underclock it.

 

[ShawnD1]

Its like how some people will buy used cars that have been fixed up, while others wouldnt touch it with a 10 foot pole.

And our reasoning for this is the exact same for computers as it is for cars - we assume you have no idea what you're doing. The dumb ass who overloads his alternator when installing 1000W subs is the same kind of dumb ass who overclocks his P4 and lets it run at 70C for several years.

I'm not saying the OP is dumb. I'm saying some people really are that dumb and that's why people like me are very skeptical.

 

[douglasb]

And our reasoning for this is the exact same for computers as it is for cars - we assume you have no idea what you're doing. The dumb ass who overloads his alternator when installing 1000W subs is the same kind of dumb ass who overclocks his P4 and lets it run at 70C for several years.

I'm not saying the OP is dumb. I'm saying some people really are that dumb and that's why people like me are very skeptical.

I agree. The point is this: I would rather buy a new chip and overclock it myself than to buy a used, "proven" overclocker from somebody else. The bottom line is that I don't truly know what the previous owner has put that chip through, what it's capable of in MY computer, and how much life the chip has in it. That's what's important to me, personally. I like to know what I'm getting, and anything beyond that is just extra. If I buy a used, already overclocked chip from somebody else, I have no guarantee that I will be able to duplicate that person's results.

 

[ShawnD1]

I have no guarantee that I will be able to duplicate that person's results.

I know I post the same link every week, but the guys at Microsoft can confirm that a lot of overclockers don't know what they are doing. It's possible that the guy selling his 1337 4GHz P4 never stability tested it, and it only runs stable up to 3.6GHz.

Any way we try to spin this, a P4 that was run at stock speeds is probably better.

 

[toyota]

Im still stuck at P4 overclocked "gaming rig".

 

[VirtualLarry]

Im still stuck at P4 overclocked "gaming rig".

Compared to your average P4 with onboard video, this one is a gaming rig. Granted, it won't play something like Dragon Age: Origins or GTA4 very well, but it will play some games like SIMS 3 just fine. (Sims 3 requires a 3D card.) I also have a friend playing WoW on a system with a slower CPU (P4 2.4 no HT), and a similar class video card.

Anyways, Aigo, this guy never indicated that he wanted to actually buy the P4, he e-mailed me just to argue. He called me a "thief" in my first email, apparently because I wanted so much money for a P4.

Well, I know that I'm not out of the ballpark, because I got an email from geeks.com, selling a P4 3.4Ghz with onboard video for $259. And mine has a 3D card and an extra CD-RW drive included.

 

[Necrosaro420]

I had a rather ignorant SOB email me about my ad on CL for a P4 overclocked gaming rig for $300.

He claimed (among various other things), that a CPU that has been overclocked is worth nothing.

Does anyone else here believe that? That a CPU loses all of it's value if it has ever been overclocked?

Overclocking a CPU is the EXACT same thing that the chip makers do to the chip itself. They set it to a certain speed, "lock" it to that speed. Thats overclocking.

 

[Kenmitch]

Overclocking a CPU is the EXACT same thing that the chip makers do to the chip itself. They set it to a certain speed, "lock" it to that speed. Thats overclocking.

Not true and I would disagree with this statement....Most of the time it's castration if anything.

The chipmakers more or less just try to make their quota on chip orders....Probably only test a chip or two out of a batch and say " Hmm....Lets make it a chip X "

I would think that if intel did a better job at binning silicone we would have had core2duos running at 4ghz along time ago....Same goes for the quads

It is to our faver that intel and amd don't have the time or resources to squeeze all the power out of the chips!

 

[exar333]

I agree. The point is this: I would rather buy a new chip and overclock it myself than to buy a used, "proven" overclocker from somebody else. The bottom line is that I don't truly know what the previous owner has put that chip through, what it's capable of in MY computer, and how much life the chip has in it. That's what's important to me, personally. I like to know what I'm getting, and anything beyond that is just extra. If I buy a used, already overclocked chip from somebody else, I have no guarantee that I will be able to duplicate that person's results.

Let's just say I definitely would consider buying a used, OCd CPU from someone I trusted rather than a stranger. Face it, a lot of people don't know much about overclocking, and either it's not really stable at what they say it is, or they may have fried the heck out of it with voltage.

I would consider myself a "responsible" overclocker, since I don't use insane voltages and suicide runs. There is nothing wrong with either of these two things, but I wouldn't touch CPUs from those circumstances unless they were VERY cheap. I would definitely take one of Aigo's chips off his hands if he was looking for a home for it....

 

[aigomorla]

I would definitely take one of Aigo's chips off his hands if he was looking for a home for it....

Gillbot would ban you faster then you can say "Hey Letgo of my eggo".

He has a 24/7 camera outside waiting for things i accidentally throw out.

 

[Gillbot]

Gillbot would ban you faster then you can say "Hey Letgo of my eggo".

He has a 24/7 camera outside waiting for things i accidentally throw out.

I didn't know that you knew it was there.... Better move it to a new location.

 

[HannibalX]

I had a rather ignorant SOB email me about my ad on CL for a P4 overclocked gaming rig for $300.

He claimed (among various other things), that a CPU that has been overclocked is worth nothing.

Does anyone else here believe that? That a CPU loses all of it's value if it has ever been overclocked?

He probably got burned (no pun intended) with a burnt, used CPU in the past.

 

[Ben90]

*SNIP*I would disagree with this statement....Most of the time it's castration if anything.

*SNIP*

I would think *SNIP*

It is to our faver that intel and amd can't allow chips with 400tdp of power out of the chips!

fixed for truth

 

[Gillbot]

Yes, overclocked CPU's are completely worthless, send them all to me.

 

[KeypoX]

Check ebay, sometimes they list overclocked cpus adn sell for premium.

Im thinking about doing that, though my cpu overclock isnt great, but voltage is low.