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Overclcok Advice for CPU/RAM (E6600 + 4GB Ballistix)

clarkey01

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Hi all, had to go back to stock(E6600) as a precaution when installing my 4GB ram. A few questions;

Should I use the asus overclock utility in windows or direct in the bios?

Which is better and why in your view?

Also ( I know this a cpu forum) but how do I change the timings for my Ram ?

I have increased from 2GB to 4GB ( but my windows experience for my ram has gone down from 5.9 to 5.5) but the timings on ballistix are slower then my old Gskill, anyone with my motherboard know how to adjust this?( I cant see the option in the bios)

Also having tighter timings will affect my CPU overclock?

Many thanks again crew.
 
Definitely use the BIOS. Software overclocking sucks. Your BIOS needs to know, before you boot into Windows, that your FSB is going to be at a much higher frequency. If it doesn't know ahead of time, it can't relax the chipset's timings, and you'll get nowhere near as high of an overclock.

Of course, you probably won't get much of an overclock with 4x1 GB sticks, unless you raise your northbridge voltage at least one notch; unfortunately, unless you have a revision 1.02G or higher, northbridge voltage isn't an option: link.

Quote from that article:
As was promised in the conference, we came back to this motherboard, tampered with various BIOS versions, tortured ASUS support service. The final conclusion: more powerful overclocking tools are supported only by the motherboard of revision 1.02G (which we had) and higher.

edit: The "more powerful overclocking tools" they speak of are higher vdimm capabilities, and northbridge voltage adjustment.
 
Always overclock in BIOS! Loosen your memory timings to 5-5-5-15 before you start overclocking. That way if you system fails at stress testing, you know it's your processor causing the crashes and not the RAM. To loosten memory timings, look around in BIOS for the setting...Mine was under "Northbridge Settings"...I had to change the "Configure DRAM timing by SPD" option from auto to manual.

Once you have a stable overclock on the CPU, you can start tightening RAM timings again.
 
Your ram should be at 5,5,5,15 at default settings, so start from there. That is a great OC chip and you should have fun. Follow the instruction in the "how to OC your...." threads all over this forums in detail and learn about how to do it in bios. Once you do it once, you will always have that knowledge.
 
Originally posted by: boglwe
Your ram should be at 5,5,5,15 at default settings, so start from there. That is a great OC chip and you should have fun. Follow the instruction in the "how to OC your...." threads all over this forums in detail and learn about how to do it in bios. Once you do it once, you will always have that knowledge.

Should I do as Capitalizt said and OC my CPU first then Ram?

Im just a bit mad about the ram "feeling slightly slower" due to my higher timings but the extra 1gb I got helps in games, BF2's a lot smoother, but I like my snappy Mac feel with my old ram and timings
 
like I said man the goal is to find the maximum stable overclock for the CPU. How are you going to know if your CPU is stable or not if your RAM is causing crashes (due to tight timings). It's best to loosen the timings when overclocking...and once you are happy with your CPU speed, you can try tightening them back up a bit and see if it remains stable.
 
Originally posted by: Capitalizt
like I said man the goal is to find the maximum stable overclock for the CPU. How are you going to know if your CPU is stable or not if your RAM is causing crashes (due to tight timings). It's best to loosen the timings when overclocking...and once you are happy with your CPU speed, you can try tightening them back up a bit and see if it remains stable.

My CPU is stable at 2833Mhz on 1.3v, I don't want to push it, I also changed my timings to from 15 to 12, how does it look?

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/3903/memxx9.jpg
 
5-6-6-12? Are the 2nd and 3rd values the default for your RAM? They seem unusually high.

5-5-5-15 is usually the high end of timings for PC2-6400 memory.

I recommend you set the timing to AUTO and see what it does in CPU Z.
 
Originally posted by: Capitalizt
5-6-6-12? Are the 2nd and 3rd values the default for your RAM? They seem unusually high.

5-5-5-15 is usually the high end of timings for PC2-6400 memory.

I recommend you set the timing to AUTO and see what it does in CPU Z.

What do you reckon I set them to or atleast try to?
 
I have an E6600 also, overclocked the chip to 3ghz (333 x 9 and 1.33v). I set the RAM to run 1:1 with my FSB in BIOS, so with a FSB of 333mhz, the Ram runs at DDR667mhz. I was able to get 4-4-4-12 timings at that speed and I'm happy with the performance. 😉

If you want to run at 800mhz, Set your memory timing to AUTO and see what the timings end up being in CPU-Z...then go back into BIOS and manually set them a little tighter (lower) than the auto numbers.

 
Originally posted by: Capitalizt
I have an E6600 also, overclocked the chip to 3ghz (333 x 9 and 1.33v). I set the RAM to run 1:1 with my FSB in BIOS, so with a FSB of 333mhz, the Ram runs at DDR667mhz. I was able to get 4-4-4-12 timings at that speed and I'm happy with the performance. 😉

If you want to run at 800mhz, Set your memory timing to AUTO and see what the timings end up being in CPU-Z...then go back into BIOS and manually set them a little tighter (lower) than the auto numbers.

I'll try that tonight when I get in from work
 
for speedstep, you can turn it on technically, but make sure you first verify that your chip is stable at your desired overclock. you then could turn on speedstep after and play around to see if it is stable and if it is, you might as well have it on so when your idle your cpu isnt taking up all that voltage and runs cooler, but if it is not stable with the speedstep, then turn it off.
 
Originally posted by: TC91
for speedstep, you can turn it on technically, but make sure you first verify that your chip is stable at your desired overclock. you then could turn on speedstep after and play around to see if it is stable and if it is, you might as well have it on so when your idle your cpu isnt taking up all that voltage and runs cooler, but if it is not stable with the speedstep, then turn it off.

It's turned on and I ran otherus? for 24 hours while I was away, no errors, full load temps are 48C. Im happpy with my new tighter timings and 433 Mhz overclock. The only thing I want to ask now is - is 1.3V core high? I set it to this in the bios but CPU-z show it as 1.25V Grrrrr
 
1.3v is fine. it is within intel's spec'd 1.35v. cpuz showing 1.25v is likely the vdroop of your motherboard.
 
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