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Arkaign

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There is a lot of buzz usually on apple products, with their fans loving them, along with a lot of other people noting how $$$ they can be. Personally after having spending a bit of time with my brother's iPad, I'm pretty impressed with the quality, battery life, and software available for it. I think they're a fair value for people who just want something easy to mess with for games and light internet use. Obviously they're nearly useless for much more than casual/consumptive use, but they fill their niche well.

On the Macs, both desktops and notebooks, I usually find the quality to also be decent, although not enough to warrant the shockingly huge markup vs. competitive PC products. It's most apparent in Mac desktops, where someone that knows what they're doing can build a better PC for half the price, or a PC for the same price that's hugely better. For certain people though, they make enough sense. I think those who have used Macs for years get their money's worth just sticking with what they're used to, rather than having to adapt to a totally different OS. Oh, and then there's those folks who use Macs as PCs :D Yeah that makes perfect sense :p

What brought me to this discussion today though was Sony. For a lot of things (TVs, Car stereos, PS3), their products are at the very least very solid, with some being excellent. When it comes to notebooks though :

YUCK. Can they ever get it right? I honestly have no idea how they are so popular. They totally suck to work on, the designs internally are just ridiculous (some of them have seperate tiny ribbon cables for the mouse pad and mouse buttons, that have almost no slack and can be broken very easily), the specs usually aren't very good, but they do come in colors like pink, which for some reason people actually buy. The prices are just insane on them though. I was at Best Buy yesterday looking at notebooks, and someone was buying the 14" Vaio i3 model for $799! What year is this? The specs weren't very good, and a better-performing and nice looking Toshiba was sitting next to it for $300 less.

Is this just blind brand loyalty? During my time in IT on the consumer end, I saw countless problems with Sony Vaio notebooks, they seemed to represent a disproportionate number of problems based on their numbers in the field. On the corporate support side, I've noticed that almost all large IT departments are smart enough not to attempt to use Sony Vaios for business use, although a handful of my attorney clients have Vaios. At least it brings me extra work, small things on them are always failing. Wireless cards, touchpads, speakers, inverters, etc.

What say you, AT? Sony Vaio line, win or fail?
 

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oh teh noes someone may pay for nice design !?! i mean, why bother with nice looking stuff in your house when a mattress on cinder blocks is perfectly functional?


(wrt apple, dunno about sony.)
 

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I have a 16" Vaio with HDMI and blu-ray. Its a decent little laptop. Personally i really like having the keys completely separated on the keyboard, makes it easy to type
 

Arkaign

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I have a 16" Vaio with HDMI and blu-ray. Its a decent little laptop. Personally i really like having the keys completely separated on the keyboard, makes it easy to type

Hmm, I wonder if they've improved things somewhat then. I'm using a Vaio this week (VGN-CS215J) as a loaner while my new notebook is being shipped to me, and the keyboard is driving me crazy. I think the previous owner spilled something on it though, as some of the keys stick a little. The keys that don't stick still don't go smoothly down though, they're kind of creaky unless you hit them dead-center straight down, and they have a higher resistence than I've ever seen.

That 16" Screen does look very nice though! I saw an LED Vaio 16", and it looked as good as anything else I've seen in the range.
 

Arkaign

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This is the one I'm using :

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I do like how Sony has finally started using SD compatibilty in cameras and notebooks. I was getting so tired of them and their special Sony memory sticks :D
 

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Sony and Apple are the only two companies that make well built good looking machines. I used to be a thinkpad person, but I think Lenovo killed it. my T43 still feels like a tank after 6 years of hard abuse, the new ones feel flimsy.
 

lxskllr

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I won't buy Sony products. Every single one I've owned has been less than reliable, and considering the high price, they aren't worth it.
 

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Sony likes to think of itself as the BMW of electronics, meaning you pay more for the brand name. It's the same with their TVs. They use the same LCD panels as everyone else, but you still pay more for a Sony than another brand with the same panel.
 

Arkaign

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I won't buy Sony products. Every single one I've owned has been less than reliable, and considering the high price, they aren't worth it.

Heh. This notebook I'm using is a testament to that. The brightness on the screen drops every ten minutes or so for about 15 seconds, the backspace key doesn't work, the speakers crackle, and the optical drive doesn't work :D That's all aside from the keyboard sucking. Oh, the fan bearings grind constantly as well. A lot of that could just be the previous owner being rough with it, although it's not scratched up or anything like that.

It's also kind of blocky and heavy. Certainly far below the design/build quality of same era Apples and even Dell Studio/HP DV (late 2008).
 

Bateluer

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Not a big fan of Sony myself. Had decent luck with my current Dell though.

Admittedly, I'm not rough with my toys. The Studio 14z will look almost brand new when I move on in a year or so.
 

Tweak155

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I like Sony products but I won't pay for the markup other than their camcorders.

I don't like their laptops that much either except for the small ones. I like their TV's but I won't pay that markup. I like their camcorders though, they are usually pretty high quality. I haven't bought a non-Sony cc.
 
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