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Outgoing Commander of 1 MEF Disagreed with Decision to Assault Fallujah, and to Withdraw

tnitsuj

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but...but...we needed revenge for those four men who were strung up from the bridge..... The politicians needed something to show the Fox News viewers that we were tough on terrer.


washingtonpost.com
Outgoing Marine General Opposed April Assault in Fallujah

By Rajiv Chandrasekaran
Washington Post Foreign Service

FALLUJAH, Iraq, Sept. 12 -- The outgoing U.S. Marine Corps general in charge of western Iraq said Sunday he opposed a Marine assault on militants in the volatile city of Fallujah in April and the subsequent decision to withdraw from the city and turn over control to a security force comprised of former Iraqi soldiers.

That security force, known as the Fallujah Brigade, was formally disbanded last week. Not only did the brigade fail to combat militants, it actively aided them, surrendering weapons, vehicles and radios to the insurgents, according to senior Marine officers. Some of brigade's members even participated in attacks on Marines ringing the city, the officers said.

The comments by Lt. Gen. James T. Conway, made shortly after he relinquished command of the First Marine Expeditionary Force on Sunday, amounted to a stinging broadside against top U.S. military and civilian leaders who ordered the invasion and the withdrawal. His statements also provided the most detailed explanation -- and justification -- of Marine actions in Fallujah this spring, which have been widely criticized for increasing insurgent activity in the city and turning it into a no-go zone for U.S. troops.

Conway arrived in Iraq in March pledging to accelerate reconstruction projects as a way to subdue Sunni-dominated Anbar province. But he was soon confronted in Fallujah with the killing on March 31 of four U.S. security contractors whose bodies were mutilated by a celebrating mob. Conway said he resisted calls for revenge, and advocated instead targeted operations and continued engagement with municipal leaders.

"We felt like we had a method that we wanted to apply to Fallujah: that we ought to probably let the situation settle before we appeared to be attacking out of revenge," he said in an interview with four journalists after his change of command ceremony. "Would our system have been better? Would we have been able to bring over the people of Fallujah with our methods? You'll never know that for sure, but at the time we certainly thought so."

He echoed an argument made by many Iraqi politicians and American analysts -- that the U.S. attack further radicalized an already restive city, leading many residents to support the insurgents in the face of an American assault. "When we were told to attack Fallujah, I think we certainly increased the level of animosity that existed," he said.

Conway would not say where the order to attack originated, only that he received an order from his superior at the time, Lt. Gen. Ricardo S. Sanchez, the overall commander of U.S. forces in Iraq. Some senior U.S. officials in Iraq have said that the command originated in the White House.

"We follow our orders," Conway said. "We had our say, and we understood the rationale, and we saluted smartly, and we went about the attack."

The Marine assault on Fallujah in April ended abruptly after three days. Conway expressed displeasure at the order he received from Sanchez to cease offensive operations, a decision that culminated in the formation of the Fallujah Brigade.

"When you order elements of a Marine division to attack a city, you really need to understand what the consequences of that are going to be and not perhaps vacillate in the middle of something like that," he said. "Once you commit, you got to stay committed."

Noting that six Marines were killed and six wounded in those first three days, he added: "We were quite happy with the progress of the attack on the city. We thought we were sparing civilian lives everywhere and anywhere that availed itself to us. We thought we were going to be done in a few days. That's the Monday morning quarterbacking."

At the time, the Marine encirclement of Fallujah was highly controversial. Iraqi political leaders accused U.S. military commanders of engaging in collective punishment of the city.

Although the order to stop the fighting and seek an alternate solution was made above Conway, he was responsible for placing Iraqis in charge of security. He formed the Fallujah Brigade after the head of Iraq's intelligence service, Mohammed Abdullah Shahwani, brought a handful of former Iraqi army generals to the Camp Fallujah Marine base. The generals offered to set up a force of more than 1,000 former soldiers from Fallujah who would control the city and combat the insurgents, including a cluster of non-Iraqi Islamic militants. In exchange, the Marines pledged to withdraw from the city.

But the brigade never developed as planned. Instead of wearing the desert camouflage uniforms the Marines provided, members dressed in their old Iraqi army fatigues. Instead of confronting insurgents, the former soldiers initially manned traffic checkpoints leading into the city. After a few weeks, even that ended.

Marine officials believe that threats, tribal ties and other influences led many of the soldiers to tacitly support the insurgents. The leaders of two National Guard battalions, which had been working with the Fallujah Brigade, were kidnapped. One of them was beheaded, and the fate of the other is unknown. A video recording of the killing has circulated in Fallujah to dissuade people from working with security forces. Eventually, the 800 AK-47 assault rifles, 27 pickup trucks and 50 radios the Marines gave the brigade wound up in the hands of the insurgents, according to Marine officers. Some Marines manning a checkpoint on the city's eastern fringe were shot at by gunmen wearing Fallujah Brigade uniforms.

Conway's chief of staff, Col. John C. Coleman, said he and other senior Marine officers did not foresee the challenges in getting people from Fallujah to police the city. "I'm not sure we fully understood the hardness of the city, the harshness of the elements operating inside," he said.

With no security forces in Fallujah now -- U.S. troops do not patrol inside the city limits -- the area has become a haven for insurgents, Marine officers said. Among the foreign-born fighters believed to be holed up in Fallujah is Abu Musab Zarqawi, a Jordanian militant who is alleged to have organized car bombings, kidnappings and other attacks targeting Americans and Iraqis.

Over the past week, the U.S. warplanes have bombed suspected insurgent safe houses and other targets in the city. Coleman said those attacks have killed hundreds of insurgents.

Conway's successor, Lt. Gen. John F. Sattler, suggested that another incursion into the city would require not just the approval of Iraq's interim prime minister but also likely would involve the joint participation of Iraqi army units. "When we approach it next time, we will approach it a little bit differently," he said.

But he said he is unwilling to tolerate an insurgent-controlled city. "The status quo," he said, "is unacceptable."

© 2004 The Washington Post Company

 

yankeesfan

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It wasn't his call. I am sure that they took his opinion into consideration and realized that the plan they eventually used was "better".
 

tnitsuj

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Originally posted by: yankeesfan
It wasn't his call. I am sure that they took his opinion into consideration and realized that the plan they eventually used was "better".

No..for better or for worse he and his men did what thier duly appointed leaders asked them to do and for that I salute them.
 

BaliBabyDoc

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Bah humbug! Just more liberal lies. We are winning the war on turrurism in Afghanistan and Iraq. In fact, Hurricane Ivan is God's very hand smiting the evil Castro and his terrorist regime.
 

glenn1

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"We follow our orders," Conway said. "We had our say, and we understood the rationale, and we saluted smartly, and we went about the attack."

Lucky him. We used to get orders we didn't understand the rationale for all the time, but that doesn't mean you don't obey them. I guess when you're a general you get to ask a few more insightful questions of those giving the orders. I can see the general at the briefing now...

"Sir, if I may ask a question, WTF kind of plan is this? What, did a retarded chimpmunk come up with this bullshit?"

"Oh, President Bush wrote the plan. Say no more. Marines lead the way SIR!"

(later, to his aide de camp) "<sigh> Ya know, days like this make me wish I had joined the Air Force..."
 

BaliBabyDoc

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OK . . . not embarassed to say I'm a civilian that's never served. I don't get the last part of your joke.
 

maddogchen

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the cease-fire/truce was a big mistake. they shoulda finished the job or did the way the general wanted. of course anyone would feel the way the general feels when things are left half-done.

as for tnitsuj, rest assured after this, if you get caught by militants in Iraq, shot, burned alive, body mutilated and have your dead carcass strung up on a bridge...your death will not be avenged! ;)
 

Bulk Beef

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Originally posted by: maddogchen
as for tnitsuj, rest assured after this, if you get caught by militants in Iraq, shot, burned alive, body mutilated and have your dead carcass strung up on a bridge...your death will not be avenged! ;)
As tasteless as that was, I'm afraid I have to admit that I laughed.