out of town on business, just saw an interesting Corp HQ building

[NeoV]

They have a huge, shiny, fancy HQ building in the northern VI area.

those of you that for some reason continue to donate money to this dinosaur should be happy to know that you are basically throwing your money away.

It's going towards paying the ungodly amounts of money required to run things out of that building, and the huge staff that apparently works there.

Also, got a 'survey' call from the NRA last week - they played a bit of drivel from some schmuck w/the NRA - telling me how, unless I acted now - Hillary Clinton and the United Nations were going to sign a treaty that would ban guns in the United States - I kid you not.

When the clip was over - the caller asked "do you feel that Hillary Clinton and the UN should decide American gun policies?"

I responed with - "do you really believe that to be the case?" Are you guys really spending money to spread this crap?

Her response - 'well, you do know that United Nations treaties have no expiration date" - i cut her off - I said 'please tell me you are kidding', but she stayed right on task with more drivel about how Congress if full of anti-gun liberals.

It really is amazing that people still think the NRA is needed, and they continue to, apparently very well - fund it.

It's like most of the auto-unions - it may have served a purpose once, but it's time is long past due.

Now they are just spreading the kind of divisive BS that isn't good for anyone other than their own pockets.

for the record - I'm not for banning guns in this country - but I think our rate of gun violence is an absolute black eye on the face of America, and we aren't even trying to fix it, in part because of the NRA and their minions.

 

[Fear No Evil]

 

[PJABBER]

Which reminds me, I need to send in my NRA dues. The discussions here are making me consider a Lifetime family membership!

You can usually get an idea of the legal side of things the membership of the NRA is interested in by checking out the NRA-ILA -

NRA Institute for Legislative Action (ILA)

I guess you are not from around Northern Virginia if you haven't seen their building. It is not as imposing as, say, the AFL-CIO building within strolling distance of the White House. But then up until a couple of months ago you couldn't own a firearm in DC to save your life. :laugh:

Wiki is your friend, sometimes -

... The National Rifle Association of America, or NRA, is an American non-partisan, non-profit (501(c)(4)) organization which lists as its goals the protection of the Second Amendment of the United States Bill of Rights and the promotion of firearm ownership rights as well as marksmanship, firearm safety, and the protection of hunting and self-defense in the United States. It was established in 1871 in New York by William Conant Church and George Wood Wingate as the American Rifle Association; its first President was former Senator and famous Civil War Union Army General Ambrose Burnside. President of the United States Ulysses S. Grant served as the NRA's eighth President and General Philip H. Sheridan as its ninth.

... According to its website, the NRA has nearly four million members.

... (The NRA) spent $15 million on a new headquarters in the 1990s.

... The NRA Office of Advancement was created in 2005 to focus on building the NRA's endowment and underwriting programs and projects across the organization - including the NRA, the NRA Foundation, NRA-ILA, the NRA Whittington Center, and the Civil Rights Defense Fund. In 2007, the NRA Office of Advancement launched a new donor recognition society called the Ring of Freedom. In July 2008, the NRA Foundation was designated a Four Star Charity by Charity Navigator for the sixth consecutive year.

According to the Better Business Bureau's web site, the NRA does not fall within the BBB's scope of Standards for Charity Accountability. They do note the following financials for the NRA as of December 31, 2004. The NRA's CEO, Wayne LaPierre, received a yearly salary of $895,897 in 2004. They also indicated that fundraising costs accounted for 46% of the contributions received. The NRA is a 501(c)(4) organization and indicated that the NRA's total income in 2004 was $205,402,491 and had expenses of $206,886,970. Total NRA assets at the end of 2004 were $222,841,128.

 

[BoberFett]

The NRA wouldn't be around if Democrats would stop trying to skirt the 2nd Amendment.

And if you think other organizations don't have big fancy buildings, you're a moron.

 

[IronWing]

So is the NRA's headquarters building shaped like a dead cop? Just wondering.

 

[Fear No Evil]

Originally posted by: ironwing
So is the NRA's headquarters building shaped like a dead cop? Just wondering.

 

[PJABBER]

Originally posted by: ironwing
So is the NRA's headquarters building shaped like a dead cop? Just wondering.

Naaah, but it does have a sign on it that says "If you lived here, you would be home by now!"

 

[ericlp]

Originally posted by: NeoV
They have a huge, shiny, fancy HQ building in the northern VI area.

those of you that for some reason continue to donate money to this dinosaur should be happy to know that you are basically throwing your money away.

It's going towards paying the ungodly amounts of money required to run things out of that building, and the huge staff that apparently works there.

Also, got a 'survey' call from the NRA last week - they played a bit of drivel from some schmuck w/the NRA - telling me how, unless I acted now - Hillary Clinton and the United Nations were going to sign a treaty that would ban guns in the United States - I kid you not.

When the clip was over - the caller asked "do you feel that Hillary Clinton and the UN should decide American gun policies?"

I responed with - "do you really believe that to be the case?" Are you guys really spending money to spread this crap?

Her response - 'well, you do know that United Nations treaties have no expiration date" - i cut her off - I said 'please tell me you are kidding', but she stayed right on task with more drivel about how Congress if full of anti-gun liberals.

It really is amazing that people still think the NRA is needed, and they continue to, apparently very well - fund it.

It's like most of the auto-unions - it may have served a purpose once, but it's time is long past due.

Now they are just spreading the kind of divisive BS that isn't good for anyone other than their own pockets.

for the record - I'm not for banning guns in this country - but I think our rate of gun violence is an absolute black eye on the face of America, and we aren't even trying to fix it, in part because of the NRA and their minions.

And you don't think the republicans and big insurance companies are spewing BS trying to scare the public into spending more and more money so that big shiny new hospitals and insurance buildings can go up?

It's all about FEAR and half baked truths. They want your money and they will tell you "ANYTHING" to get it.

 

[Sclamoz]

Originally posted by: BoberFett
The NRA wouldn't be around if Democrats would stop trying to skirt the 2nd Amendment.

And if you think other organizations don't have big fancy buildings, you're a moron.

Democrats wouldn't be trying to take yer guns away if gun owners could be trusted to use them responsibly.

See how that works?

 

[dullard]

The National Rifle Association had a good purpose, that is, until it basically morphed into becoming the National Republican Association. The NRA is no longer about guns, but more about bashing liberals and promoting republicans.

 

[Fear No Evil]

Originally posted by: Sclamoz

Originally posted by: BoberFett
The NRA wouldn't be around if Democrats would stop trying to skirt the 2nd Amendment.

And if you think other organizations don't have big fancy buildings, you're a moron.

Democrats wouldn't be trying to take yer guns away if gun owners could be trusted to use them responsibly.

See how that works?

At least you admit they are trying to take them away. I think you have NO idea how many guns are out there and how many people use them responsibly. I'm sure there are some stats out there on how many households have at least one gun and I bet its staggering. The problem is not with NRA members who own guns, it with criminals who use guns. And as we have proven, criminals will have guns regardless of if its legal for them to do it or not.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: Sclamoz

Originally posted by: BoberFett
The NRA wouldn't be around if Democrats would stop trying to skirt the 2nd Amendment.

And if you think other organizations don't have big fancy buildings, you're a moron.

Democrats wouldn't be trying to take yer guns away if gun owners could be trusted to use them responsibly.

See how that works?

There is a big difference between a gun owner and a gun user.

The liberals are the ones that have tried to blur the difference.

A gun owner is responsbile and does not expect the gun to be used except under controlled safe conditions.

A gun user is someone that feels that they are not man enough on their own and needs to use a weapon to show off.

Felons are a prime example of the gun user.

 

[Sclamoz]

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy

Originally posted by: Sclamoz

Originally posted by: BoberFett
The NRA wouldn't be around if Democrats would stop trying to skirt the 2nd Amendment.

And if you think other organizations don't have big fancy buildings, you're a moron.

Democrats wouldn't be trying to take yer guns away if gun owners could be trusted to use them responsibly.

See how that works?

There is a big difference between a gun owner and a gun user.

The liberals are the ones that have tried to blur the difference.

A gun owner is responsbile and does not expect the gun to be used except under controlled safe conditions.

A gun user is someone that feels that they are not man enough on their own and needs to use a weapon to show off.

Felons are a prime example of the gun user.

How many gun owners turned gun users? does it take before we have a problem?

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: Sclamoz

Originally posted by: BoberFett
The NRA wouldn't be around if Democrats would stop trying to skirt the 2nd Amendment.

And if you think other organizations don't have big fancy buildings, you're a moron.

Democrats wouldn't be trying to take yer guns away if gun owners could be trusted to use them responsibly.

See how that works?

99.9999% of gun owners do use them responsibly. Idiots like you simply don't understand statistics.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: Sclamoz

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy

Originally posted by: Sclamoz

Originally posted by: BoberFett
The NRA wouldn't be around if Democrats would stop trying to skirt the 2nd Amendment.

And if you think other organizations don't have big fancy buildings, you're a moron.

Democrats wouldn't be trying to take yer guns away if gun owners could be trusted to use them responsibly.

See how that works?

There is a big difference between a gun owner and a gun user.

The liberals are the ones that have tried to blur the difference.

A gun owner is responsbile and does not expect the gun to be used except under controlled safe conditions.

A gun user is someone that feels that they are not man enough on their own and needs to use a weapon to show off.

Felons are a prime example of the gun user.

How many gun owners turned gun users? does it take before we have a problem?

Problem developed when the felons have more rights than the victims.
Stop coddling the crimminal and then the problem goes away.

 

[Munky]

Originally posted by: Sclamoz

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy

Originally posted by: Sclamoz

Originally posted by: BoberFett
The NRA wouldn't be around if Democrats would stop trying to skirt the 2nd Amendment.

And if you think other organizations don't have big fancy buildings, you're a moron.

Democrats wouldn't be trying to take yer guns away if gun owners could be trusted to use them responsibly.

See how that works?

There is a big difference between a gun owner and a gun user.

The liberals are the ones that have tried to blur the difference.

A gun owner is responsbile and does not expect the gun to be used except under controlled safe conditions.

A gun user is someone that feels that they are not man enough on their own and needs to use a weapon to show off.

Felons are a prime example of the gun user.

How many gun owners turned gun users? does it take before we have a problem?

Guns don't cause violence... didn't anyone teach you that? But we just might have a problem if liberal hippies try to take away our 2nd amendment right.

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: dullard
The National Rifle Association had a good purpose, that is, until it basically morphed into becoming the National Republican Association. The NRA is no longer about guns, but more about bashing liberals and promoting republicans.

:thumbsup: by me

 

[JS80]

AARP HQ

Planned Parenthood HQ

you get the idea

 

[Fear No Evil]

Originally posted by: JS80
AARP HQ

Planned Parenthood HQ

you get the idea

Is planned parenthood building shaped like an aborted fetus? :roll:

 

[TheSkinsFan]

The National Rifle Association of America, or NRA, is an American non-partisan, non-profit (501(c)(4)) organization.

You don't have to be a Republican to appreciate and fight to maintain our Bill of Rights.

/thread

 

[IronWing]

Originally posted by: TheSkinsFan

The National Rifle Association of America, or NRA, is an American non-partisan, non-profit (501(c)(4)) organization.

You don't have to be a Republican to appreciate and fight to maintain our Bill of Rights.

/thread

Of course the fact that the NRA consistently supports candidates who would abridge every single one of those rights except the 2nd amendment seems to slide right past their membership. I think the NRA serves a great purpose in defending that one right. I just wish they'd support the rest of the Constitution and stop supporting fascist fucks.

 

[Fear No Evil]

Originally posted by: ironwing

Originally posted by: TheSkinsFan

The National Rifle Association of America, or NRA, is an American non-partisan, non-profit (501(c)(4)) organization.

You don't have to be a Republican to appreciate and fight to maintain our Bill of Rights.

/thread

Of course the fact that the NRA consistently supports candidates who would abridge every single one of those rights except the 2nd amendment seems to slide right past their membership. I think the NRA serves a great purpose in defending that one right. I just wish they'd support the rest of the Constitution and stop supporting fascist fucks.

I didn't realize that the NRA was in favor of the quartering of troops.. Those bastards!

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: BoberFett
The NRA wouldn't be around if Democrats would stop trying to skirt the 2nd Amendment.

And if you think other organizations don't have big fancy buildings, you're a moron.

Strangely, gun rights have actually increased (albeit minimally) while the Dems have been in power.

IMO, gun control is to Dems as balancing the budget is to the Pubs. Good rhetoric to get votes from the peanut gallery but the last thing they'd ever actually want to do something about.

 

[NeoV]

leave it to FearNoEvil to pull the classic - bury our head in the sand - comment:

"And as we have proven, criminals will have guns regardless of if its legal for them to do it or not."

Right - there is nothing we can do about it....move along...

sad, isn't it?


I think those financial statistics are STAGGERING - 200+ million dollars to pretend to enforce something that basically can't be changed anyway? Am I reading that correctly - NRA contributions are tax-deductible as charitable contributions? Are you kidding me? Funny how they don't have to disclose all of their spending like real charities do.

Should every amendment have it's own 200+M strong-arm group to stand up for it?

How exactly is our bill of rights under attack?

No democrat on any kind of national level could ever hope to win in states like WI and MN where hunting is basically a way of life - and unless there is some sort of drastic shift, they need those states to win elections. Saying that dems want to take your guns away is simple scare tactics, and it's beyond sad that people waste millions of dollars feeding this hate generating machine.

 

[Sclamoz]

Originally posted by: munky


Guns don't cause violence... didn't anyone teach you that? But we just might have a problem if liberal hippies try to take away our 2nd amendment right.

Really? So if guns aren't the cause it must be the people who own them right?