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Out of print material and Pirating

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AgentJean

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Is there anything "wrong" with using torrents to get out of print software? The publisher hasn't made it in years and no store would have it in stock any more. There may be the remote chance one could buy a used copy on an auction site but how does paying 10 - 20 times retail "help" the creator?

Opinions?
 
Originally posted by: AgentJean
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: JRich
I just called the FBI.
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ROFLMAO. Your funny.
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He is but looks aren't everything.

 
I pirate lots of things, terrible, disgusting things.

So you can trust me when I say "go ahead!"

😛

ARRRRRR MATEY
 
Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: AgentJean
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: JRich
I just called the FBI.
</end quote></div>

ROFLMAO. Your funny.</end quote></div>
He is but looks aren't everything.
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I think I'm hurt by this statement 🙂
 
so if you have a rare wine in your wine cellar, that i can't get from a wine store, and the winery that made the wine no longer exists, you are ok with me breaking in and "sharing" it
😎
 
Originally posted by: FoBoT
so if you have a rare wine in your wine cellar, that i can't get from a wine store, and the winery that made the wine no longer exists, you are ok with me breaking in and "sharing" it
😎
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No, because I know my "sharing" will decrease the amount of rare wine you have, while downloading out-of-print software will not change the source. How cool would it be if that were true for wine...
 
Originally posted by: FoBoT
so if you have a rare wine in your wine cellar, that i can't get from a wine store, and the winery that made the wine no longer exists, you are ok with me breaking in and "sharing" it
😎
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You wouldn't be breaking in. In the example you give, he would have invited you over to share it.

The question is, is he permitted to share it with you?

 
Originally posted by: FoBoT
so if you have a rare wine in your wine cellar, that i can't get from a wine store, and the winery that made the wine no longer exists, you are ok with me breaking in and "sharing" it
😎
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worst analogy ever
 
Sites like GameTap and companies like MS and Nintendo are paying creators to re-release old software so if it's a game then yes, piracy could hurt the creators by removing demand for a paid re-release.

What are you planning to "infringe"?
 
Originally posted by: PimpJuice
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: FoBoT
so if you have a rare wine in your wine cellar, that i can't get from a wine store, and the winery that made the wine no longer exists, you are ok with me breaking in and "sharing" it
😎</end quote></div>

worst analogy ever
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Yes - not to delve in this discussion again, but copyright infringement is NOT theft.

More on topic, I used to be fairly involved in 'abandonware' games.
 
most ISPs have deemed torrents against their tos, and will dc you. i played world of warcraft at a hotel during patch day, and got about 93% done when they finally realized it was a torrent download. i had to call and explain that it wasnt me downloading movies, the only reason they turned it back on was the supervisor on duty plays wow also.
 
Originally posted by: hanoverphist
most ISPs have deemed torrents against their tos, and will dc you. i played world of warcraft at a hotel during patch day, and got about 93% done when they finally realized it was a torrent download. i had to call and explain that it wasnt me downloading movies, the only reason they turned it back on was the supervisor on duty plays wow also.
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I pretty much live in a hotel during the week for work and I've never had my access shut off or capped because of torrents. I was uploading all of last night/evening/this morning at 150-200kb/s w no problems.
 
this was the royal pacific resort in florida, the speed was about the same as a crappy dial up, and they shut it off after about 45 min. the best western doesnt seem to care much tho, but cox and qwest have it in their agreements. verizon broadband has a clause in there too here in az... just got a new card today for one of the PMs here.
 
Originally posted by: AgentJean
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: JRich
I just called the FBI.
</end quote></div>

ROFLMAO. Your funny.
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I just called the Spelling Nazi's.
 
i've always wondered this in regards to movies. Say there was a movie that has gone out of print and was released on vhs only. The only place you can find copies is on ebay for 100 bucks. Is it wrong to download a copy.
 
Originally posted by: pontifex
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: AgentJean
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: JRich
I just called the FBI.
</end quote></div>

ROFLMAO. Your funny.</end quote></div>

I just called the Spelling Nazi's.
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I didn't want to bring it up seeing as I called the fuzz already.
 
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