out of africa theory debunked again.

[Soundmanred]

:awe:

Did you scroll to the bottom? This is the author. I'm not saying you should judge books by their cover, but you definitely should judge humans by their cover.

Jealous of the wandering eye?
The windswept hair?
The "I just took my space goggles off" red nose?
The butter colored teeth?
Which is it?
Maybe a combination of these traits?
Or possibly the fucking insanity that comes from his brain?

 

[Brian Stirling]

Some, though not all, of the Out of Africa deniers just can't allow themselves to believe that blacks and whites are really the same species. I can't say I know the OP's feelings on this but if I were to judge based on MANY other posts he's made I might suspect he'd prefer if God made blacks and whites as separate creatures -- with whites being superior of course.

But, leaving aside the racial overtones, how do we get from Adam and Eve and there children, presumably of one race, to the many races we have today without evolution? Did God have a separate creation for blacks and another one for whites?

Man has had a hand in evolution and demonstrated, through selective breeding, that a wolf can be transformed into a Black Lab, a Brittany Spaniel, and a Chihuahua, to name just a few. Selective breeding is different than natural selection but it points to mechanisms that effect change.


Brian

 

[mikeford]

But the fact that our species first appeared in Africa isn't in doubt.

Its not gospel, its what looks correct based on the information we have so far. A convenient working hypothesis and nothing more.

 

[Jeff7]

Some, though not all, of the Out of Africa deniers just can't allow themselves to believe that blacks and whites are really the same species. I can't say I know the OP's feelings on this but if I were to judge based on MANY other posts he's made I might suspect he'd prefer if God made blacks and whites as separate creatures -- with whites being superior of course.

But, leaving aside the racial overtones, how do we get from Adam and Eve and there children, presumably of one race, to the many races we have today without evolution? Did God have a separate creation for blacks and another one for whites?

Man has had a hand in evolution and demonstrated, through selective breeding, that a wolf can be transformed into a Black Lab, a Brittany Spaniel, and a Chihuahua, to name just a few. Selective breeding is different than natural selection but it points to mechanisms that effect change.


Brian

Simple: "I believe in small changes. But lots of small incremental changes adding up to big changes? Now you're just talking crazy."

 

[BudAshes]

Chihuahuas and St Bernards are both dogs.

 

[Anarchist420]

Some, though not all, of the Out of Africa deniers just can't allow themselves to believe that blacks and whites are really the same species. I can't say I know the OP's feelings on this but if I were to judge based on MANY other posts he's made I might suspect he'd prefer if God made blacks and whites as separate creatures -- with whites being superior of course. But, leaving aside the racial overtones, how do we get from Adam and Eve and there children, presumably of one race, to the many races we have today without evolution? Did God have a separate creation for blacks and another one for whites?

the classifications are those who have an mtdna from the white neanderthal eve (probably haplogroups UK, A, and D) and then those who have an mtDNA haplogroup descended from a chimpanzee which then became the black races, those with mt dna haplogroup L (and its descendants) or mtDNA hg R (and it's descendants). so the true blacks (as i described above) are the majority on every continent today, the true white race (as described above) is the minority master race.

anyway, i could easily be enslaved since i am sure i am not matrilinealy descended from a neanderthal eve.

 

[BurnItDwn]

"don't believe in evolution" ???
That is like saying I don't believe in physics or I don't believe in gravity.


What is obvious to me, and most likely the majority here, is that what you really mean to say is that you don't UNDERSTAND evolution.

 

[glenn1]

the classifications are those who have an mtdna from the white neanderthal eve (probably haplogroups UK, A, and D) and then those who have an mtDNA haplogroup descended from a chimpanzee which then became the black races, those with mt dna haplogroup L (and its descendants) or mtDNA hg R (and it's descendants). so the true blacks (as i described above) are the majority on every continent today, the true white race (as described above) is the minority master race.

anyway, i could easily be enslaved since i am sure i am not matrilinealy descended from a neanderthal eve.

True white minority master race? You need to keep the focus on what's arguably a fact-based (albeit trivial) scientific discussion about mankind's origins. Move to ban if he keeps up with encoded racism or goes outright stormfront.

 

[mugs]

Edit: already posted

 

[alkemyst]

"don't believe in evolution" ???
That is like saying I don't believe in physics or I don't believe in gravity.


What is obvious to me, and most likely the majority here, is that what you really mean to say is that you don't UNDERSTAND evolution.

The problem people don't understand is that why wouldn't a creator actually allow it's creations to evolve if needed.

EVOLUTION does not trump CREATION.

 

[BurnItDwn]

The problem people don't understand is that why wouldn't a creator actually allow it's creations to evolve if needed.

EVOLUTION does not trump CREATION.

Fairy tails are nice, but, that does not make them true.

 

[Todd33]

I'm appalled that people like the OP exist in the modern era. Maybe it is Poe's law, but where has the educational system let us down?

 

[Jeff7]

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[Iron Woode]

the original article is flawed.

Over time, even the two researchers came to discover that the research of Original Mitochondrial DNA was fundamentally flawed. Both separately conducted further tests on Mitochondrial DNA found within the blood of full-descent Original people, arriving at the same conclusion, both recanted their previous assumptions by acknowledging that Homo sapien sapiens originated in Australia.

I can't find any evidence supporting this accusation.

In fact recent studies conclude the original research was correct.

A recent estimate in 2013 from the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology shows that Mitochondrial Eve lived about 160,000 years ago (within the reserved estimate of the original research) and also that the non-African humans were separated from Africans about 95,000 years ago.[50] In August 2013, a study led by Stanford University School of Medicine geneticists reported the age of Mitochondrial Eve to be about 99,000 and 148,000 years, and the Y-MRCA to have lived between 120,000 and 156,000 years ago, based on genome sequencing of 69 people from 9 different populations.[11] This also implies that the discrepancies between the age of "Adam" and "Eve" are reconcilable.

and what exactly does "full-descent Original people" actually mean?

that site is so full of BS it's not funny. Seriously? Bras cause breast cancer? GMO Wheat kills children?

good grief!

 

[Iron Woode]

The problem people don't understand is that why wouldn't a creator actually allow it's creations to evolve if needed.

EVOLUTION does not trump CREATION.

correct!

the entire Universe was created when it was sneezed out of Great Green Arkleseizure.

 

[JTsyo]

My simple advice would be to find websites not written by delusional psychopath conspiracy nuts.



Golly, look at that, they even have articles on the wonders of homeopathy. Oooooh, and articles on Qi, chemtrails, "biophotons," Obama's secret plan to implant everyone with nanotechnology, and harnessing the power of pyramids.


Great ads, too.
"Time, Space, Life, God... And how to obtain super powers"
"37 things to HOARD Now"
"Learn to see auras"




That site is a poorly-assembled collection of mental disorders.






.

Sounds like a place Anarchist could become the mod of.

 

[rudeguy]

correct!

the entire Universe was created when it was sneezed out of Great Green Arkleseizure.

Of course not. It was created when to atoms of nothing smashed together and created everything.

 

[DisgruntledVirus]

the classifications are those who have an mtdna from the white neanderthal eve (probably haplogroups UK, A, and D) and then those who have an mtDNA haplogroup descended from a chimpanzee which then became the black races, those with mt dna haplogroup L (and its descendants) or mtDNA hg R (and it's descendants). so the true blacks (as i described above) are the majority on every continent today, the true white race (as described above) is the minority master race.

anyway, i could easily be enslaved since i am sure i am not matrilinealy descended from a neanderthal eve.

A) Where did you get that time machine from? Because clearly you've been transported from the 1800's to present.
B) Have you ever taken a science course at a reputable college?
C) Just because you can parrot what some crackpot says using terms like "mtDNA" and "Haplogroup" doesn't mean you have any idea what you're talking about. And clearly you're an idiot.
D) No modern human descended from chimps. Period. Nobody, except for those who are anti-science/religious fundies/ignorant, that has any knowledge on human evolutionary history says we descended from chimps. That goes for whites, blacks, hispanics, asians, and whatever the juggalo's are. All of us are homo sapiens.
E) You're clearly a racist and I hope the mods call you on it.

 

[alkemyst]

Fairy tails are nice, but, that does not make them true.

wow bro, that went so far over your defensive/attacking head it's not even funny.

I didn't say I believed in creation or evolution. I said there is nothing that would not stop evolution in any of the holy writings out there so far if that is what one believes.

Also creation theory has not been proven false by anything else (you can't disprove something). Scientists aren't sure the true story yet.

I tend to keep an open mind and I have almost a decade of college level science courses with even some non-secular religion type classes thrown in.

 

[Iron Woode]

the classifications are those who have an mtdna from the white neanderthal eve (probably haplogroups UK, A, and D) and then those who have an mtDNA haplogroup descended from a chimpanzee which then became the black races, those with mt dna haplogroup L (and its descendants) or mtDNA hg R (and it's descendants). so the true blacks (as i described above) are the majority on every continent today, the true white race (as described above) is the minority master race.

anyway, i could easily be enslaved since i am sure i am not matrilinealy descended from a neanderthal eve.

quoted for extreme science fail.

seriously, you need to either:

a) go to school and learn science

b) stop posting

most people would prefer you chose both.

 

[alkemyst]

correct!

the entire Universe was created when it was sneezed out of Great Green Arkleseizure.

Wow, you are another one that flies off the handle.

I wasn't stating either was correct, it's that either can coexist with the other.

Take a seat before you break a hip.

 

[Iron Woode]

Wow, you are another one that flies off the handle.

I wasn't stating either was correct, it's that either can coexist with the other.

Take a seat before you break a hip.

we were just having a bit of fun.

merry christmas!

 

[alkemyst]

/facepalm; I am thinking too many here think high school biology and a couple science classes in college makes them an authority on things.

I love when those posters begin speaking in 'big words' in cerebral type posts. Smacks Third-Degree Black Belt in GoogleFu!

 

[alkemyst]

we were just having a bit of fun.

merry christmas!

If that was the case then carry on. I am not thinking it was. Either way it destroys these kinds of threads into troll-fests.

To me I am more focused on the NWO vs. just really rich folks making things the way they like them. It's the same debate as the creation/evolution thing to me.

In the end, it doesn't matter as either way one of or both of them are true and we are in the boat together.

 

[Iron Woode]

If that was the case then carry on. I am not thinking it was. Either way it destroys these kinds of threads into troll-fests.

To me I am more focused on the NWO vs. just really rich folks making things the way they like them. It's the same debate as the creation/evolution thing to me.

In the end, it doesn't matter as either way one of or both of them are true and we are in the boat together.

it was already a troll fest when the op posted this thread. That is the only reason he posted it.