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agent00f

Lifer
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Hes not that unpredictable. I've actually guessed correctly at a number of his ridiculous activities. I knew he'd blame democrats for failing to get his health bill passed.

Like father like son:

When in danger when in doubt run in circles, scream and shout. Gotcha.

I'm not dismissive, I'm just not irrational. Now go and shout some more at people because they are against Trump but trying to figure out what to do WITHOUT RESORTING TO INSULTING AND FUCKING CAPS.

Obviously YMMV.

Read or post all the articles like this you want. In the end it will come down to whether Democrats can learn enough lessons from their loss to run someone who can win in 2020. And yes while Trump is just as terrible as I thought he would be there's no assurance that he won't win re-election if Dems pick the wrong candidate again.


Trump & spawn sure can't help blaming everyone else for their degeneracy.
 

agent00f

Lifer
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Trump action is easily explainable if you had experience with someone with personality disorder and if you have the 'chinese' culture fabric in you. Psychologists suggested that some culture is more susceptible to personality disorder and as a Vietnamese origin, I fully concur this. It comes down basically to a person living in his own reality and in that reality, the only thing that is important is the perception of people about them or his image hence the 'definition' of sucess or greatness. However, since there's no place for morale in this 'the winner takes it all' mode, the proof of success is never a great story to tell but the results to show. Most of the time, it's material or money used to demonstrate the success but the story behind it is hidden voluntary. The road to glory from those people is not something they want people to have a clear look.

The brain will be conditionned to work permanently in PR mode but only in a very narrow time space. Everything said and done or expressed orther wise are purely on an impulsive reaction to improve or gain a 'battle'. Everything is treated like a battle but the war itself is overlooked or often even not clear. It is 100% certainty that Trump don't really remember what he said or doesn't really care but will use the benefit of a declaration if he ever found out that advantage him ex: not going into Iraq (he said the opposite before that). An analogy is a guy guessing almost all numbers before the roulette spined and then told people how he knew it would happen.

It is also very important to win the 'battle' vs anything is front of him or deflect 'bad' stories or danger to the hidden reality (to him anyways). It is a self secure feeling to his own personality cult. To prove to himself and his followers that he's not to mess with. It is not a hasard that a guy who pride himself as a 'builder' or 'development' would overuse a word like 'deal' to sell himself to public. In his mind, the ability to make a deal is the greatest attribute as a business man, it is the 'general' ability to win battles. A con artist mindset. Note that the 'war' in 'deal' is not really talked about: being rich/successful will cover that.

Trump also thinks he's smart because he is actually the alternative fact thinker. He doesn't see what happened as most of people and what he said / tweeted is an invitation to people to alternatively understand his message. Basically, in his world, it is normal that people is 'dumber' and don't see the 'truth'. It is also very 'natural' to him to shout out 'fake news' or 'alternative facts' because his brain is already accepted his version as the reference.

If you come from those regions of the world where 'smartness' is defined by people getting on top of others with no regard to morale, you will recognize Trump instantly. He is exactly one of those too many people that I have met in my life who aren't necessary a celebrity or wealthy personality but are programmed to work exactly the same way.

It is also dangerous that these people are easily manipulated themseves, they always think that they have that ability to 'use' people but they are also the easiest prey if you know how to play them.

What is astonishing is that you realized that he was actually elected as the president of the USA, a country in which the foundation fathers put everything they could (learned and known at that time) in place to prevent a disaster coming from the most dangerous threat of all: human.

Contemporary american conservative ideals (ie trumpism) is a near mirror of european fascism.
 

Muse

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A lot of good points made in this thread.

Now, I've been wondering from time to time this:

What's out there that if discovered will give DJT opponents ample ammunition to torpedo his "administration?" A man of such loose morals likely has done a lot of things that make him an excellent target. Of course, as we know, his proclivity is to deny everything, deflect facts with propaganda, distortions, outright lies, but some facts are not so easily dispensed with. Yes, the Russian involvements are "his achilles heel," but only if DJT does not manage to sidetrack the investigations by virtue of his deflection tactics.
 

trenchfoot

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A lot of good points made in this thread.

Now, I've been wondering from time to time this:

What's out there that if discovered will give DJT opponents ample ammunition to torpedo his "administration?" A man of such loose morals likely has done a lot of things that make him an excellent target. Of course, as we know, his proclivity is to deny everything, deflect facts with propaganda, distortions, outright lies, but some facts are not so easily dispensed with. Yes, the Russian involvements are "his achilles heel," but only if DJT does not manage to sidetrack the investigations by virtue of his deflection tactics.

I think this is what Trump's supporters meant when they claimed that Trump's vast experience in the Corporate World would help him run the government with the efficiency, self sacrifice, clever decision making and magnanimity that is required for the job.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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A lot of good points made in this thread.

Now, I've been wondering from time to time this:

What's out there that if discovered will give DJT opponents ample ammunition to torpedo his "administration?" A man of such loose morals likely has done a lot of things that make him an excellent target. Of course, as we know, his proclivity is to deny everything, deflect facts with propaganda, distortions, outright lies, but some facts are not so easily dispensed with. Yes, the Russian involvements are "his achilles heel," but only if DJT does not manage to sidetrack the investigations by virtue of his deflection tactics.


At this moment? Substantial proof of personal involvement in a quid pro quo in hacking the DNC. That would be the wooden stake for the vampire.
 

Muse

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I think this is what Trump's supporters meant when they claimed that Trump's vast experience in the Corporate World would help him run the government with the efficiency, self sacrifice, clever decision making and magnanimity that is required for the job.
I suppose that this is dripping with sarcasm, however the choice of words maketh me wonder. But yes, no other possibility.
 

glenn1

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Thanks for your tender concern and blatantly obvious advice.

Now here's some advice from me to you: Go fuck yourself.

You should really grow a thicker skin and some more intellectual prowess to post in this forum if that's the best response you can muster. You must have been reallllllly intellectually and emotionally invested in Clinton winning and experiencing some major cognitive dissonance that you were on the losing side.

I'm wondering why you seem to put no responsibility on the people who voted for this asshole.

What "responsibility" would you have me put on them? Trump spoke to the concerns and desires of a slice of electorate that Clinton wrote off. And honestly the Democrats will lose them again unless they stop treating them with open contempt and attempting to paint them as racist monsters just for having a political viewpoint that disagrees with yours.
 
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Thump553

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I don't envy parents of young children. It's got to be tough to instill any kind of moral backbone in your child when the fregging President is such an obvious lying sack of sh*t and behaves like a self-centered child more often than not.
 

trenchfoot

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I suppose that this is dripping with sarcasm, however the choice of words maketh me wonder. But yes, no other possibility.

Rest assured, my post was absolutely soaking with sarcasm. I was referring to Trump's supporters' words in their defense of his then candidacy and how their words backfired in their faces like the proverbial exploding cigar. ;)
 

Muse

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I don't envy parents of young children. It's got to be tough to instill any kind of moral backbone in your child when the fregging President is such an obvious lying sack of sh*t and behaves like a self-centered child more often than not.
It is indeed a terrible example for our children to see a president who has no regard for integrity. Integrity, if it means anything to him at all, is way down the flowchart of his priorities. It is this, as much as anything, that has me disgusted with the outcome of the election.
 
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It's interesting right now watching the response to Syria when you look at the questions about whether Trumps loose relationship with the truth would backfire in a serious situation. Most of the people who oppose Trump generally seem to support the need for the action taken in Syria. His most ardent supporters are calling out false flag in the face of his assertion of why the strike was valid.
 

brandonbull

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Read or post all the articles like this you want. In the end it will come down to whether Democrats can learn enough lessons from their loss to run someone who can win in 2020. And yes while Trump is just as terrible as I thought he would be there's no assurance that he won't win re-election if Dems pick the wrong candidate again.

The Dims probably won't learn, not surprising, from the election. Personal attacks, bullying, and lack of content will not win anything except second place.
 

ivwshane

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Really? That's exactly what won the predsidency.

You misunderstand him. He voted for trump because the "dims" were mean to him and called him names. He voted for trump out of spite.





I picture him rocking back and forth on the ground with his hands clutched around one of his guns, huddled under a blanky with a nightlight on, listening to a book on tape by O'Reilly, mumbling something about MAGA.
 
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mikeymikec

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Mentioning vampires and MAGA in the same thread just makes me think of the vampire god in the first Blade movie.
 

Moonbeam

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Trump action is easily explainable if you had experience with someone with personality disorder and if you have the 'chinese' culture fabric in you. Psychologists suggested that some culture is more susceptible to personality disorder and as a Vietnamese origin, I fully concur this. It comes down basically to a person living in his own reality and in that reality, the only thing that is important is the perception of people about them or his image hence the 'definition' of sucess or greatness. However, since there's no place for morale in this 'the winner takes it all' mode, the proof of success is never a great story to tell but the results to show. Most of the time, it's material or money used to demonstrate the success but the story behind it is hidden voluntary. The road to glory from those people is not something they want people to have a clear look.

The brain will be conditionned to work permanently in PR mode but only in a very narrow time space. Everything said and done or expressed orther wise are purely on an impulsive reaction to improve or gain a 'battle'. Everything is treated like a battle but the war itself is overlooked or often even not clear. It is 100% certainty that Trump don't really remember what he said or doesn't really care but will use the benefit of a declaration if he ever found out that advantage him ex: not going into Iraq (he said the opposite before that). An analogy is a guy guessing almost all numbers before the roulette spined and then told people how he knew it would happen.

It is also very important to win the 'battle' vs anything is front of him or deflect 'bad' stories or danger to the hidden reality (to him anyways). It is a self secure feeling to his own personality cult. To prove to himself and his followers that he's not to mess with. It is not a hasard that a guy who pride himself as a 'builder' or 'development' would overuse a word like 'deal' to sell himself to public. In his mind, the ability to make a deal is the greatest attribute as a business man, it is the 'general' ability to win battles. A con artist mindset. Note that the 'war' in 'deal' is not really talked about: being rich/successful will cover that.

Trump also thinks he's smart because he is actually the alternative fact thinker. He doesn't see what happened as most of people and what he said / tweeted is an invitation to people to alternatively understand his message. Basically, in his world, it is normal that people is 'dumber' and don't see the 'truth'. It is also very 'natural' to him to shout out 'fake news' or 'alternative facts' because his brain is already accepted his version as the reference.

If you come from those regions of the world where 'smartness' is defined by people getting on top of others with no regard to morale, you will recognize Trump instantly. He is exactly one of those too many people that I have met in my life who aren't necessary a celebrity or wealthy personality but are programmed to work exactly the same way.

It is also dangerous that these people are easily manipulated themseves, they always think that they have that ability to 'use' people but they are also the easiest prey if you know how to play them.

What is astonishing is that you realized that he was actually elected as the president of the USA, a country in which the foundation fathers put everything they could (learned and known at that time) in place to prevent a disaster coming from the most dangerous threat of all: human.

Thank you for posting this. I found it both interesting and enjoyably original in a non formulaic and personal way. For me it feels like a gift to me from somebody with uncommon insight.
 

Perknose

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Trump action is easily explainable if you had experience with someone with personality disorder and if you have the 'chinese' culture fabric in you. Psychologists suggested that some culture is more susceptible to personality disorder and as a Vietnamese origin, I fully concur this. It comes down basically to a person living in his own reality and in that reality, the only thing that is important is the perception of people about them or his image hence the 'definition' of sucess or greatness. However, since there's no place for morale in this 'the winner takes it all' mode, the proof of success is never a great story to tell but the results to show. Most of the time, it's material or money used to demonstrate the success but the story behind it is hidden voluntary. The road to glory from those people is not something they want people to have a clear look.

The brain will be conditionned to work permanently in PR mode but only in a very narrow time space. Everything said and done or expressed orther wise are purely on an impulsive reaction to improve or gain a 'battle'. Everything is treated like a battle but the war itself is overlooked or often even not clear. It is 100% certainty that Trump don't really remember what he said or doesn't really care but will use the benefit of a declaration if he ever found out that advantage him ex: not going into Iraq (he said the opposite before that). An analogy is a guy guessing almost all numbers before the roulette spined and then told people how he knew it would happen.

It is also very important to win the 'battle' vs anything is front of him or deflect 'bad' stories or danger to the hidden reality (to him anyways). It is a self secure feeling to his own personality cult. To prove to himself and his followers that he's not to mess with. It is not a hasard that a guy who pride himself as a 'builder' or 'development' would overuse a word like 'deal' to sell himself to public. In his mind, the ability to make a deal is the greatest attribute as a business man, it is the 'general' ability to win battles. A con artist mindset. Note that the 'war' in 'deal' is not really talked about: being rich/successful will cover that.

Trump also thinks he's smart because he is actually the alternative fact thinker. He doesn't see what happened as most of people and what he said / tweeted is an invitation to people to alternatively understand his message. Basically, in his world, it is normal that people is 'dumber' and don't see the 'truth'. It is also very 'natural' to him to shout out 'fake news' or 'alternative facts' because his brain is already accepted his version as the reference.

If you come from those regions of the world where 'smartness' is defined by people getting on top of others with no regard to morale, you will recognize Trump instantly. He is exactly one of those too many people that I have met in my life who aren't necessary a celebrity or wealthy personality but are programmed to work exactly the same way.

It is also dangerous that these people are easily manipulated themseves, they always think that they have that ability to 'use' people but they are also the easiest prey if you know how to play them.

What is astonishing is that you realized that he was actually elected as the president of the USA, a country in which the foundation fathers put everything they could (learned and known at that time) in place to prevent a disaster coming from the most dangerous threat of all: human.

I would like to add my thanks to Moonie's: Thank you for this.
 

werepossum

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Uhhhh, there's plenty in the op ed piece that ~40% of the voting electorate in this country either don't understand or refuse to understand.

If the sky is falling while 4 out of 10 townsfolk refuse to believe it is, your patently dismissive attitude that "we" shouldn't keep fucking loudly announcing that the sky is indeed falling is roundly suspect, to say the least.

"[As] importantly (sic) NOT to do" is to respond by cavalierly dismissing the continued efforts of the fourth estate to keep hammering home to the dense and in denial THAT THERE IS A FUCKING PROBLEM.
Isn't it amazing that the 40% who are totally ignorant are always the same 40% not demanding that someone else pay for their health care, day care, contraception, college tuition, Internet access, cell phone . . . It's as though this abject ignorance somehow conveys the ability to pull one's own weight. Weird!

Anyway, please carry on demanding that mommy get rid of the bad man.
 

Moonbeam

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Isn't it amazing that the 40% who are totally ignorant are always the same 40% not demanding that someone else pay for their health care, day care, contraception, college tuition, Internet access, cell phone . . . It's as though this abject ignorance somehow conveys the ability to pull one's own weight. Weird!

Anyway, please carry on demanding that mommy get rid of the bad man.

Not as long as he keeps protecting my social security from Obamacare.
 

VVV

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Thank you for posting this. I found it both interesting and enjoyably original in a non formulaic and personal way. For me it feels like a gift to me from somebody with uncommon insight.

I would like to add my thanks to Moonie's: Thank you for this.

It's cool to receive feedbacks. As life goes on, you realize that everything is about the human behind the mask of education, culture, politic or anything else that he/she inherited volunteerly or not from the previous generation. This behavior is more than often the biggest disvantage of human specie to progress as a 'good' participant of the nature. We actually know everything we shouldn't do but repeat it in a 'better' way (same shit different story) to take even more material advantage from it.

The worst feeling as a person in my personal case is actually to admit that we don't really progress that much or at all and the next catastrophic event cause by human will happen but we have no certainty that we will prevail.