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narzy

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heres not a diagnostic but a fixall IMO

turn off DHCP and assign your rigs static IP's your numbers arnt that great so there isn't really a need for DHCP, it can cause headache up the wazoo, whenever possible I use static IP's. give that a shot and see if it works, if not we can continue to troubleshoot, if you need help LMK we can get you squared away.
 

poopaskoopa

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Originally posted by: LyNx01
Here is what I have determined:

It's not the router, I just hooked my main rig up to the switch and took the router out of the equation and it still doesn't work.

It's not the switch, I unhooked the switch from the network and tried it on the computer hooked up straight to the router, and it doesn't work.

It's not my dial up connection, because I deleted it and made a new one and it still doesn't work.

So what could it be ? :confused:

So... Can you ping any address?
 

Starrider

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That sounds like a problem I had last month. I run my seti queue on an XP1800 with an ECS K7S5A. All of my other machines could access the queue, but that machine just couldn't get on the internet. After trying a lot of things I disabled the onboard ethernet and put in a cheap Linksys pci nic. That cured my problem. I don't know why the onboard nic could access my internal network, but not the internet, but it's worked fine ever since.
I did a fresh install of winXP on a spare hard drive (just incase I had screwed something up in windows) and tried to use the onboard ethernet again. It worked for a few minutes and then did the same thing, couldn't access the internet, but I could access that machine from any other machine on my network.
Might be worth a try if you have a spare nic on hand.
 

deerslayer

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I'm going to try uninstalling the NIC and reinstalling it.

I still can't transmit WU's on seti queue either, I have 31 waiting to be sent in :(
 

JonB

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You said a few posts back that you had installed ZoneAlarm, but now disabled it. It may not be totally out of your system. Look down your Task List in Win2k and see if it left a remnant loading as a system file. It did that to me once, and would randomly block some things.

Your DI-704 is a firewall also (I have the DI-713 and the only difference is wireless functions)

I installed ZoneAlarm just to see if anything was getting past the D-Link. With the firewall disabled (I put my own IP address in the DMZ) I got tons of hits. As soon as I got out of the DMZ, I got no hits. Absolutely none. So, I don't run ZoneAlarm. But, right after the uninstall, things didn't work quite right, because some stupid system file stayed loaded in the background. Sorry, but I can't remember the name, but someone who is running ZoneAlarm could see it and post the name.

 

deerslayer

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Originally posted by: JonB
You said a few posts back that you had installed ZoneAlarm, but now disabled it. It may not be totally out of your system. Look down your Task List in Win2k and see if it left a remnant loading as a system file. It did that to me once, and would randomly block some things.

Your DI-704 is a firewall also (I have the DI-713 and the only difference is wireless functions)

I installed ZoneAlarm just to see if anything was getting past the D-Link. With the firewall disabled (I put my own IP address in the DMZ) I got tons of hits. As soon as I got out of the DMZ, I got no hits. Absolutely none. So, I don't run ZoneAlarm. But, right after the uninstall, things didn't work quite right, because some stupid system file stayed loaded in the background. Sorry, but I can't remember the name, but someone who is running ZoneAlarm could see it and post the name.

I will have to check that. It had been 17 days since I rebooted. Maybe zone alarm has that file running again, but it hadn't been loading on startup. Who knows.

Removing the NIC and reinstalling it didn't work either :(
 

Confused

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Re ZoneAlarm, look for the program vsmon.exe in your Task Manager. I was at a LAN party, and a couple of people couldn't get onto the LAN properly, even after having "closed down" ZA. After closing vsmon in Task Manager, it all worked fine :)


Confused
 

deerslayer

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Well, I found vsmon.exe running on my main rig, closed it out and now my seti queue works, but the network is still fvcked.

If I uninstall Zone Alarm will that get rid of vsmon.exe?
 

narzy

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if its not anything hardware, its some awkward setting you have somewhere I would assume, are you sure all the computers are a member of the SAME workgroup?
 

deerslayer

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Originally posted by: narzy
if its not anything hardware, its some awkward setting you have somewhere I would assume, are you sure all the computers are a member of the SAME workgroup?

Yep, they are all a member of the same workgroup. The thing is, I never changed any network settings when it stopped working. Someone told me one time that windows has a tendency to "forget" it's network settings sometimes, but I don't know if this is true.

What's the difference in setting a Domain or a Workgroup? I noticed today you can do either one in the system properties.

 

ProviaFan

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Originally posted by: LyNx01
Originally posted by: narzy
if its not anything hardware, its some awkward setting you have somewhere I would assume, are you sure all the computers are a member of the SAME workgroup?

Yep, they are all a member of the same workgroup. The thing is, I never changed any network settings when it stopped working. Someone told me one time that windows has a tendency to "forget" it's network settings sometimes, but I don't know if this is true.

What's the difference in setting a Domain or a Workgroup? I noticed today you can do either one in the system properties.
Workgroup = a standalone group of computers (like your home LAN)
Domain = a group of computers using a domain controller (or controllers) for login services and other stuff

(in other words, you'd know it if you had a domain)
 

deerslayer

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Well, I've about had it with this network. I went through two different ICS guides on the internet for dial up and tried both methods and it still wont work.

I don't understand why it just stopped working, but I'm about ready to take the whole thing to the FS/FT forum. I don't want to get rid of it all, but it's useless to me if my network doesn't work :(
 

narzy

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ok, your using ICS? that is icky po dicky IMO I have never, ever, ever had a good experiance with ICS, others will tell you different, but not me, ICS that windows 98 and above came / comes with, sucks.

if you have a win XP machine make sure that UPnP is turned off, also turn off UPnP on your router, I've had problems with it in the past, if you would give me a few more days I might beable to be more help, do you have AIM or MSNM or another IM program, if so we can keep in touch that way. My computer is currently unplugged so I can't help you right now unfortunatly I am posting from a friend in Portlands machine.
 

narzy

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ya, no problem, basicly I had him check all his settings, then discovered the issue lie within ICS (that dredful dredful program) so I moved him over to AnalogX's proxy and let him set it up. everything works and he's happy, so I'm glad everything got to working once again.