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Antisocial Virge

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Dec 13, 1999
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I just want to know how this tool obtained elite status........

Amen..


Every point you try to make against that board could also be said against Anandtech. The fact that you bring up Nazi's and Hitler make you no better than all the other people who were banned here for saying the same thing. Your sounding just like a kid who didn't get his way this morning.
 

Viper GTS

Lifer
Oct 13, 1999
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Originally posted by: SuperSix
Sorry David, you're WAY off base here, I'm surprised you have taken this stance.

One forum removing a link that is in clear violation of their agreement = the end of the internet as we know it?

C'mon, you're kidding... right?

Agreed.

The flaming is somewhat unnecessary, but the popular opinion here is correct - You are wrong.

Viper GTS
 

DivideBYZero

Lifer
May 18, 2001
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Look, tell your 'sorry' story to the EFF, and when they laugh you into submission you can try to get over it. Until then, we can't and most probably won't help you.

www.eff.org
 

ndee

Lifer
Jul 18, 2000
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Originally posted by: Jzero
>The dslreports.com Message Boards are designed to help readers obtain DSL ISP information discuss ways to make ISP choices.

Clearly not a true statement.

What does you flogging cheap modems have to do with readers getting information about ISPs?

I like the slogan: Need to buy a DSL Modem? Now you can get one direct -> DSLModemsdirect.com


rotfl this guy is too much
 

dabuddha

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Antisocial-Virge
I just want to know how this tool obtained elite status........

Amen..


Every point you try to make against that board could also be said against Anandtech. The fact that you bring up Nazi's and Hitler make you no better than all the other people who were banned here for saying the same thing. Your sounding just like a kid who didn't get his way this morning.

ok how about this
I want your phone number within 24 hours so I can call you. If you don't give it to me, according to your twisted logic, I have the right to sue you over it
rolleye.gif

ill say it again, one last time in hope that it might seep into your brain
it is a PRIVATELY owned website. Which means if they want to change your alias to neo nazi loving whatever, its their right. And you were wrong about your previous predicament. The punishment was harsh however which is the only reason i supported you but you were wrong. And in this case, you are definitely wrong.
I hope you'll post a nice big :D soon and say it was all a joke.
 

yllus

Elite Member & Lifer
Aug 20, 2000
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Good heavens. This is a clear cut case of discrimination against The Individual while favouring The Corporation. The Internet is our last bastion of equality, where whether you are a single person or a huge entity - they all can look the same.

Mr. McOwen, I do believe we have a case here. We must act before this kind of behaviour is deemed acceptable and infects the rest of the freedom-loving Internet society that we all love and worship. We of AnandTech are here by your side in the good fight.
 

dmcowen674

No Lifer
Oct 13, 1999
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Originally posted by: Jzero
>The dslreports.com Message Boards are designed to help readers obtain DSL ISP information discuss ways to make ISP choices.

Clearly not a true statement.

What does you flogging cheap modems have to do with readers getting information about ISPs?

But because it is a PRIVATE board these guys can promote expensive Modems that don't work as well, while at the same time stopping anyone from seeing or "flogging as you put it" cheap modems that perform better and work, while declaring their hyperlink is legal and not spam while my hyperlink is illegal and spam, interesting.
 

Jzero

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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But because it is a PRIVATE board these guys can promote expensive Modems that don't work as well, while at the same time stopping anyone from seeing or "flogging as you put it" cheap modems that perform better and work, while declaring their hyperlink is legal and not spam while my hyperlink is illegal and spam, interesting.

That's the long and the short of it. It doesn't matter if your product is better; they don't have to let you advertise on their website. Even if you offer to pay for it, they don't have to let you. And they can let someone else if they want to.
If you are in the right, then I demand that you allow anyone who wishes to, even if they are a competing business offering a better product for less, to be allowed to advertise on YOUR website!
 

Aves

Lifer
Feb 7, 2001
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Originally posted by: yllus
Good heavens. This is a clear cut case of discrimination against The Individual while favouring The Corporation. The Internet is our last bastion of equality, where whether you are a single person or a huge entity - they all can look the same.

Mr. McOwen, I do believe we have a case here. We must act before this kind of behaviour is deemed acceptable and infects the rest of the freedom-loving Internet society that we all love and worship. We of AnandTech are here by your side in the good fight.
You know sully, my wife had a link to your unamed website in her sig here and it was removed, is there anything we can do about that?

 

ndee

Lifer
Jul 18, 2000
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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Jzero
>The dslreports.com Message Boards are designed to help readers obtain DSL ISP information discuss ways to make ISP choices.

Clearly not a true statement.

What does you flogging cheap modems have to do with readers getting information about ISPs?

But because it is a PRIVATE board these guys can promote expensive Modems that don't work as well, while at the same time stopping anyone from seeing or "flogging as you put it" cheap modems that perform better and work, while declaring their hyperlink is legal and not spam while my hyperlink is illegal and spam, interesting.

STOP POSTING. YOU GET ON MY FREAKIN' NERVE (and not only on my I guess). OK, otoh, I could just stop reading this thread. Hhhhmmmm. Actually I'm waiting for the "Skoorb-effect".
 

Antisocial Virge

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Dec 13, 1999
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But because it is a PRIVATE board these guys can promote expensive Modems that don't work as well, while at the same time stopping anyone from seeing or "flogging as you put it" cheap modems that perform better and work, while declaring their hyperlink is legal and not spam while my hyperlink is illegal and spam, interesting.

Remeber a while back there was a Tigerdirect ad at the top of this forum? Its a private forum so they had every right to do it. It eventually got taken down do to public pressure but thats not the point. They paid for it and got the right to put it up there. You didn't pay for what they consider a commercial link so they can do as they feel fit.

If you don't think a hyperlink can be spam then take that link out of your sig and put in the body of a post over in Hotdeals and see how long it lasts.
 

TheGameIs21

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Apr 23, 2001
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Did he really compare an internet site removing a link to Hitler?


Geez, I thought I was the bottom of the scrap heap until I joined ATOT.
 

Lord Evermore

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Oct 10, 1999
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Wait a sec. You keep saying "illegal". Who ever said your signature was illegal? Your post doesn't say they called it illegal, they just called it spam. That's a personal decision whether they consider it spam, and not every "spam" is an illegal action. And yes, they have every right to decide what advertisers they allow on their site, however dubious YOU may consider their products to be. Have you just woken up from a hundred thousand year slumber and noticed that inferior products are often marketed better than superior products?
 

dabuddha

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Originally posted by: Lord Evermore
Wait a sec. You keep saying "illegal". Who ever said your signature was illegal? Your post doesn't say they called it illegal, they just called it spam. That's a personal decision whether they consider it spam. And yes, they have every right to decide what advertisers they allow on their site, however dubious YOU may consider their products to be. Have you just woken up from a hundred thousand year slumber and noticed that inferior products are often marketed better than superior products?

besides i think their products are superior to yours :)
 

dmcowen674

No Lifer
Oct 13, 1999
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www.alienbabeltech.com
Originally posted by: Antisocial-Virge
But because it is a PRIVATE board these guys can promote expensive Modems that don't work as well, while at the same time stopping anyone from seeing or "flogging as you put it" cheap modems that perform better and work, while declaring their hyperlink is legal and not spam while my hyperlink is illegal and spam, interesting.

Remeber a while back there was a Tigerdirect ad at the top of this forum? Its a private forum so they had every right to do it. It eventually got taken down do to public pressure but thats not the point. They paid for it and got the right to put it up there. You didn't pay for what they consider a commercial link so they can do as they feel fit.

If you don't think a hyperlink can be spam then take that link out of your sig and put in the body of a post over in Hotdeals and see how long it lasts.

Good point again. It's OK for the reverse of public pressure. It OK for them to do what they do to push a closed Market and purvey only their wares to a public that won't fight back for choice. So don't complain when you can't get High Speed Internet access. Don't complain when you are stuck with a product that doesn't work right and don't complain when you can get access to high speed but you have to pay an exhorbantly high rate because there isn't any competition anymore because you didn't want competition.
 

Corn

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Nov 12, 1999
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Good point again. It's OK for the reverse of public pressure. It OK for them to do what they do to push a closed Market and purvey only their wares to a public that won't fight back for choice. So don't complain when you can't get High Speed Internet access. Don't complain when you are stuck with a product that doesn't work right and don't complain when you can get access to high speed but you have to pay an exhorbantly high rate because there isn't any competition anymore because you didn't want competition.

I must have missed something here, has BBR turned down your offer to pay to advertise your products on their website?

 

dirtboy

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Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Antisocial-Virge
But because it is a PRIVATE board these guys can promote expensive Modems that don't work as well, while at the same time stopping anyone from seeing or "flogging as you put it" cheap modems that perform better and work, while declaring their hyperlink is legal and not spam while my hyperlink is illegal and spam, interesting.

Remeber a while back there was a Tigerdirect ad at the top of this forum? Its a private forum so they had every right to do it. It eventually got taken down do to public pressure but thats not the point. They paid for it and got the right to put it up there. You didn't pay for what they consider a commercial link so they can do as they feel fit.

If you don't think a hyperlink can be spam then take that link out of your sig and put in the body of a post over in Hotdeals and see how long it lasts.

Good point again. It's OK for the reverse of public pressure. It OK for them to do what they do to push a closed Market and purvey only their wares to a public that won't fight back for choice. So don't complain when you can't get High Speed Internet access. Don't complain when you are stuck with a product that doesn't work right and don't complain when you can get access to high speed but you have to pay an exhorbantly high rate because there isn't any competition anymore because you didn't want competition.

Let me ask you something... Do you let competing modem manufacturers or competing modem vendors advertise their products or post their links on your site? Would you let competing modem manufacturers or competing modem vendors advertise their products or post links to their site on your site if their prices are lower than yours? Would you let the same modem manufacturer or vendor who sells the same modems that you sell advertise their products or post links to their site on your site if their prices are lower than yours?

I'm eager to hear your response. I sell dsl modems and my prices are lower than yours and I'd like to post links on your site, because I'm sure many of your customers will want to save money by buying from me. So, if you don't let me advertise my stuff on your site or let me post links to my site, I'm going to sue.

If you refuse, I'm also going to hold you personally responsible for the fall of the Internet and the human race.
 

gopunk

Lifer
Jul 7, 2001
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eh, i'm sorry, but i think they are allowed to do what they want. i disagree with the notion that they should be forced to allow a competitor's advertisement in their forums.
 

Pepsi90919

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
i don't understand what the problem is. remove the link and get on with life.

That's exactly the point, just say Yes, Mr Hitler.

They removed the link.

No warning, no discussion, just smackdown.

Slippery slopes, enjoy the ride.

right, somehow me telling you to act in a normal fashion makes me a fascist dictator and exterminator. o...kay!
 

DivideBYZero

Lifer
May 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: dirtboy
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Antisocial-Virge
But because it is a PRIVATE board these guys can promote expensive Modems that don't work as well, while at the same time stopping anyone from seeing or "flogging as you put it" cheap modems that perform better and work, while declaring their hyperlink is legal and not spam while my hyperlink is illegal and spam, interesting.

Remeber a while back there was a Tigerdirect ad at the top of this forum? Its a private forum so they had every right to do it. It eventually got taken down do to public pressure but thats not the point. They paid for it and got the right to put it up there. You didn't pay for what they consider a commercial link so they can do as they feel fit.

If you don't think a hyperlink can be spam then take that link out of your sig and put in the body of a post over in Hotdeals and see how long it lasts.

Good point again. It's OK for the reverse of public pressure. It OK for them to do what they do to push a closed Market and purvey only their wares to a public that won't fight back for choice. So don't complain when you can't get High Speed Internet access. Don't complain when you are stuck with a product that doesn't work right and don't complain when you can get access to high speed but you have to pay an exhorbantly high rate because there isn't any competition anymore because you didn't want competition.

Let me ask you something... Do you let competing modem manufacturers or competing modem vendors advertise their products or post their links on your site? Would you let competing modem manufacturers or competing modem vendors advertise their products or post links to their site on your site if their prices are lower than yours? Would you let the same modem manufacturer or vendor who sells the same modems that you sell advertise their products or post links to their site on your site if their prices are lower than yours?

I'm eager to hear your response. I sell dsl modems and my prices are lower than yours and I'd like to post links on your site, because I'm sure many of your customers will want to save money by buying from me. So, if you don't let me advertise my stuff on your site or let me post links to my site, I'm going to sue.

If you refuse, I'm also going to hold you personally responsible for the fall of the Internet and the human race.

Lets hear it, waddaya say? :)
 

dabuddha

Lifer
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Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: dirtboy
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Antisocial-Virge
But because it is a PRIVATE board these guys can promote expensive Modems that don't work as well, while at the same time stopping anyone from seeing or "flogging as you put it" cheap modems that perform better and work, while declaring their hyperlink is legal and not spam while my hyperlink is illegal and spam, interesting.

Remeber a while back there was a Tigerdirect ad at the top of this forum? Its a private forum so they had every right to do it. It eventually got taken down do to public pressure but thats not the point. They paid for it and got the right to put it up there. You didn't pay for what they consider a commercial link so they can do as they feel fit.

If you don't think a hyperlink can be spam then take that link out of your sig and put in the body of a post over in Hotdeals and see how long it lasts.

Good point again. It's OK for the reverse of public pressure. It OK for them to do what they do to push a closed Market and purvey only their wares to a public that won't fight back for choice. So don't complain when you can't get High Speed Internet access. Don't complain when you are stuck with a product that doesn't work right and don't complain when you can get access to high speed but you have to pay an exhorbantly high rate because there isn't any competition anymore because you didn't want competition.

Let me ask you something... Do you let competing modem manufacturers or competing modem vendors advertise their products or post their links on your site? Would you let competing modem manufacturers or competing modem vendors advertise their products or post links to their site on your site if their prices are lower than yours? Would you let the same modem manufacturer or vendor who sells the same modems that you sell advertise their products or post links to their site on your site if their prices are lower than yours?

I'm eager to hear your response. I sell dsl modems and my prices are lower than yours and I'd like to post links on your site, because I'm sure many of your customers will want to save money by buying from me. So, if you don't let me advertise my stuff on your site or let me post links to my site, I'm going to sue.

If you refuse, I'm also going to hold you personally responsible for the fall of the Internet and the human race.

Lets hear it, waddaya say? :)



its funny how he purposely avoids answering my post or yours
 

edmicman

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May 30, 2001
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Could someone please remove those links to sites selling DSL modems? I swear theres one in almost every other post here. As a T1 user, I am offended that someone would use a product so inferior and slow. I shouldn't have to view those links while scrolling through the whole post. My will is law. Now, where do I sign up to sue somebody?
 

dmcowen674

No Lifer
Oct 13, 1999
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www.alienbabeltech.com
Originally posted by: dirtboy
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Antisocial-Virge
But because it is a PRIVATE board these guys can promote expensive Modems that don't work as well, while at the same time stopping anyone from seeing or "flogging as you put it" cheap modems that perform better and work, while declaring their hyperlink is legal and not spam while my hyperlink is illegal and spam, interesting.

Remeber a while back there was a Tigerdirect ad at the top of this forum? Its a private forum so they had every right to do it. It eventually got taken down do to public pressure but thats not the point. They paid for it and got the right to put it up there. You didn't pay for what they consider a commercial link so they can do as they feel fit.

If you don't think a hyperlink can be spam then take that link out of your sig and put in the body of a post over in Hotdeals and see how long it lasts.

Good point again. It's OK for the reverse of public pressure. It OK for them to do what they do to push a closed Market and purvey only their wares to a public that won't fight back for choice. So don't complain when you can't get High Speed Internet access. Don't complain when you are stuck with a product that doesn't work right and don't complain when you can get access to high speed but you have to pay an exhorbantly high rate because there isn't any competition anymore because you didn't want competition.

Let me ask you something... Do you let competing modem manufacturers or competing modem vendors advertise their products or post their links on your site? Would you let competing modem manufacturers or competing modem vendors advertise their products or post links to their site on your site if their prices are lower than yours? Would you let the same modem manufacturer or vendor who sells the same modems that you sell advertise their products or post links to their site on your site if their prices are lower than yours?

I'm eager to hear your response. I sell dsl modems and my prices are lower than yours and I'd like to post links on your site, because I'm sure many of your customers will want to save money by buying from me. So, if you don't let me advertise my stuff on your site or let me post links to my site, I'm going to sue.

If you refuse, I'm also going to hold you personally responsible for the fall of the Internet and the human race.

Let me ask you something... Do you let competing modem manufacturers or competing modem vendors advertise their products or post their links on your site? Would you let competing modem manufacturers or competing modem vendors advertise their products or post links to their site on your site if their prices are lower than yours? Would you let the same modem manufacturer or vendor who sells the same modems that you sell advertise their products or post links to their site on your site if their prices are lower than yours?

As a Matter of fact I do. There are Consultants that put a link to my site so I do to their's, I do not make any attempt to dictate what they use or don't use. It's a free Market.

I'm eager to hear your response. I sell dsl modems and my prices are lower than yours and I'd like to post links on your site, because I'm sure many of your customers will want to save money by buying from me. So, if you don't let me advertise my stuff on your site or let me post links to my site, I'm going to sue.

I have no idea where all this sue (I thought that was name of a girl) stuff came from but whatever floats your boat.

If you refuse, I'm also going to hold you personally responsible for the fall of the Internet and the human race.[/quote]

Someone has to take the blame, after all Al Gore invented the damned thing.
 

Corn

Diamond Member
Nov 12, 1999
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Lets recap:

Dave believes its his right to advertise his business and products free of charge on the BBR forums because BBR has paid advertisers that link to their websites and products. Since BBR will not allow Dave to advertise his business on their servers for free, that means they are discriminating assholes who believe in closed markets. Eventually this will lead to people not being able to get high speed internet access and basically the end of the internet as we know it.