OSX Classic Mode is what's missing from Windows

[PowerMacG5]

Originally posted by: johnjbruin

Originally posted by: KraziKid

Originally posted by: johnjbruin

Originally posted by: FrustratedUser
It's a great feature. Some people are just a bit 'thick' when it comes to accepting that.

Never dis-agreed that its a great feature. Just said there are viable solutions for windows also, and in some cases they work better.

How do the windows solutions work better? They cost money, and the built in compatibility mode is horrible when it comes to bigger programs.

You tell me how you would run linux and mac together if you only had one machine and needed them simultaneously. I mean i can do this on my laptop with XP. Its more convenient for me. Can your iBook do this? I know OSX is 'linux based' - however you want to interpret that. But VMware already does what classic mode would do and goes way beyond that.
Just a side question - have you ever used vmware?

Yes, I have used VMWare. Please read FreshPrince's comment above this. This thread isn't a VMware vs classic thread. I was stating why the solution for running legacy programs are handled better in mac than windows.

 

[mpitts]

Originally posted by: KraziKid

Originally posted by: johnjbruin

Originally posted by: KraziKid

Originally posted by: johnjbruin

Originally posted by: FrustratedUser
It's a great feature. Some people are just a bit 'thick' when it comes to accepting that.

Never dis-agreed that its a great feature. Just said there are viable solutions for windows also, and in some cases they work better.

How do the windows solutions work better? They cost money, and the built in compatibility mode is horrible when it comes to bigger programs.

You tell me how you would run linux and mac together if you only had one machine and needed them simultaneously. I mean i can do this on my laptop with XP. Its more convenient for me. Can your iBook do this? I know OSX is 'linux based' - however you want to interpret that. But VMware already does what classic mode would do and goes way beyond that.
Just a side question - have you ever used vmware?

Yes, I have used VMWare. Please read FreshPrince's comment above this. This thread isn't a VMware vs classic thread. I was stating why the solution for running legacy programs are handled better in mac than windows.

If people want to compare apples and apples (no pun intended), they should compare Virtual PC and VMWare. Both applications do basically the same thing on different platforms and cost money.

The problem is that there are a lot of people here who have a hard time giving Apple credit for doing anything right.

 

[johnjbruin]

Originally posted by: KraziKid

Originally posted by: johnjbruin

Originally posted by: KraziKid

Originally posted by: johnjbruin

Originally posted by: FrustratedUser
It's a great feature. Some people are just a bit 'thick' when it comes to accepting that.

Never dis-agreed that its a great feature. Just said there are viable solutions for windows also, and in some cases they work better.

How do the windows solutions work better? They cost money, and the built in compatibility mode is horrible when it comes to bigger programs.

You tell me how you would run linux and mac together if you only had one machine and needed them simultaneously. I mean i can do this on my laptop with XP. Its more convenient for me. Can your iBook do this? I know OSX is 'linux based' - however you want to interpret that. But VMware already does what classic mode would do and goes way beyond that.
Just a side question - have you ever used vmware?

Yes, I have used VMWare. Please read FreshPrince's comment above this. This thread isn't a VMware vs classic thread. I was stating why the solution for running legacy programs are handled better in mac than windows.

Point taken. I do agree that OSX has a better way of dealing with this problem as an OS by itself.

What would have been cool would be if VMware(or equivalent) came native with XP. But I'll stop the talk about vmware for this thread.

 

[FreshPrince]

Originally posted by: mpitts

Originally posted by: KraziKid

Originally posted by: johnjbruin

Originally posted by: KraziKid

Originally posted by: johnjbruin

Originally posted by: FrustratedUser
It's a great feature. Some people are just a bit 'thick' when it comes to accepting that.

Never dis-agreed that its a great feature. Just said there are viable solutions for windows also, and in some cases they work better.

How do the windows solutions work better? They cost money, and the built in compatibility mode is horrible when it comes to bigger programs.

You tell me how you would run linux and mac together if you only had one machine and needed them simultaneously. I mean i can do this on my laptop with XP. Its more convenient for me. Can your iBook do this? I know OSX is 'linux based' - however you want to interpret that. But VMware already does what classic mode would do and goes way beyond that.
Just a side question - have you ever used vmware?

Yes, I have used VMWare. Please read FreshPrince's comment above this. This thread isn't a VMware vs classic thread. I was stating why the solution for running legacy programs are handled better in mac than windows.

If people want to compare apples and apples (no pun intended), they should compare Virtual PC and VMWare. Both applications do basically the same thing on different platforms and cost money.

The problem is that there are a lot of people here who have a hard time giving Apple credit for doing anything right.

Not sure if that's even it...maybe they haven't seen classic mode in action. I sure if they've seen it in action and fully understood how it works...they would say the same thing I'm saying. I've been a PC user all my life and believe me, I will continue to use wintel computers. but sometimes, ya just gotta look at things with an open mind and give props to the competition. If apple did something right...give them props. Just like the fact that I like xp because lots of features are built-in that can't be found in earlier versions of windows. I'll give M$ props for those features.

free your mind people!

 

[Snapster]

Originally posted by: mpitts

If people want to compare apples and apples (no pun intended), they should compare Virtual PC and VMWare. Both applications do basically the same thing on different platforms and cost money.

The problem is that there are a lot of people here who have a hard time giving Apple credit for doing anything right.

And conversely a fair amount that?ll use any reason to say their OS is better than Windows.

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: johnjbruin

What would have been cool would be if VMware(or equivalent) came native with XP. But I'll stop the talk about vmware for this thread.

That's exactly why Microsoft purchased VirtualPC from Connectix. The next iteration of Windows Server is going to integrate VPC technologies to support old applications(NT4/2K era most likely), in part due to the fact that Longhorn is going to be such a big departure from XP(roughly equivilent to going from Windows 3.11/NT3.5 to 95/4.0).

 

[ThePresence]

I despise classic. I have to use it all the time but goddamn, the font problems etc. that it causes is enough to drive a person insane.

 

[FreshPrince]

Originally posted by: ThePresence
I despise classic. I have to use it all the time but goddamn, the font problems etc. that it causes is enough to drive a person insane.

that's one of the issues with classic to deal with...however, there are OSX compatible type managers out there that are pretty cheap...we're currently looking into that.

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: FreshPrince

Originally posted by: ThePresence
I despise classic. I have to use it all the time but goddamn, the font problems etc. that it causes is enough to drive a person insane.

that's one of the issues with classic to deal with...however, there are OSX compatible type managers out there that are pretty cheap...we're currently looking into that.

Yeah, we use FontReserve, but it has it's own problems. Nothing will completely solve it.

 

[BatmanNate]

Originally posted by: Amorphus
It's quite the inconvenience when I have to fire up my VM for a good ol DOS game...

Use DOSbox then.

 

[Descartes]

No one OS or tool is the panacean to all problems, so for crying-out-loud just use whatever is best for the problem at hand. If this feature of the Mac is of utmost importance, than stick with Mac.

I could pick any feature of Windows that Mac is without and call it a failing of Apple, but is it? Of course not. Just use whatever most accurately fits your needs for the time. For me, it's Windows XP with VMWare and VPC.

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: Descartes
No one OS or tool is the panacean to all problems, so for crying-out-loud just use whatever is best for the problem at hand. If this feature of the Mac is of utmost importance, than stick with Mac.

I could pick any feature of Windows that Mac is without and call it a failing of Apple, but is it? Of course not. Just use whatever most accurately fits your needs for the time. For me, it's Windows XP with VMWare and VPC.

Quit saying rational things. :|