Oscar Nominations are out!

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YAOS. Typical BS from the Academy. No Peter Jackson for director is a joke, as is Spiderman over Minority Report for FX.

Interesting that of the 4 oscars LOTR actuall *won* last year it isn't nominated for 3 of those this year...despite having the exact same people producing the exact same caliber of technical work. It's pretty clear that the voters looked at TTT as more of the same and didn't want to award "the same movie" twice. The same thing will happen for ROTK next year IMO...8 noms max, with 4 victories tops.

EDIT: I forgot 10 noms for GONY...that's insane (but just what we've come to expect from Oscar voters).

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: pulse8

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: pulse8

Originally posted by: achiral

Originally posted by: kami

Oh, and you're not biased, right?

I can't name any films off the top of my head that were nominated for best pic yet the director didn't get a best director nod (I know there are some...). Academy is all screwy now....it's all politics.

Of course I'm biased...but look at the damn film. Even if you look at it on a technical basis, PJ should win. Holy sh!t!


Oh...and why did Minority Report get screwed? It should take place of Spider-man in that list for best visual effects.

this just shows that the academy is a bunch of brainless sellouts that pander to the elite

Actually, what it shows is the kind of bias fanboys really have. A film should NOT win best picture based on a technical basis. The film, otherwise, isn't one that is a crowning achievement in filmmaking. It's an epic film. They always get nominated just because of the size of the film, but it doesn't mean it was a good movie.

I've seen the LOTR movies now and I can say that I got the impression that in trying to keep with the original story, they compromised their skills as filmmakers.

Yeah right..and Dave Mathews is the Jimi Hendrix of Rythm Guitar

What the hell does that have to do with anything? Can't you ever come up with an actual comment about the topic?

OK Mr. Sensitive, please explain why you think PJ compromised his skill as filmmakers by trying to stick with the orininal story and give some examples because I believe your statement is ludicrous at best.

Edit:No Reply? Obviously I was better off just mocking your statement rather than asking you to explain what you meant.

 

[Atvar]

where the hell is Road to Perdition???

That movie wasn't very good at all.

Atvar

 

[pulse8]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: pulse8

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: pulse8

Originally posted by: achiral

Originally posted by: kami

Oh, and you're not biased, right?

I can't name any films off the top of my head that were nominated for best pic yet the director didn't get a best director nod (I know there are some...). Academy is all screwy now....it's all politics.

Of course I'm biased...but look at the damn film. Even if you look at it on a technical basis, PJ should win. Holy sh!t!


Oh...and why did Minority Report get screwed? It should take place of Spider-man in that list for best visual effects.

this just shows that the academy is a bunch of brainless sellouts that pander to the elite

Actually, what it shows is the kind of bias fanboys really have. A film should NOT win best picture based on a technical basis. The film, otherwise, isn't one that is a crowning achievement in filmmaking. It's an epic film. They always get nominated just because of the size of the film, but it doesn't mean it was a good movie.

I've seen the LOTR movies now and I can say that I got the impression that in trying to keep with the original story, they compromised their skills as filmmakers.

Yeah right..and Dave Mathews is the Jimi Hendrix of Rythm Guitar

What the hell does that have to do with anything? Can't you ever come up with an actual comment about the topic?

OK Mr. Sensitive, please explain why you think PJ compromised his skill as filmmakers by trying to stick with the orininal story and give some examples because I believe your statement is ludicrous at best.

Edit:No Reply? Obviously I was better off just mocking your statement rather than asking you to explain what you meant.

Some of us actually have to work and don't just sit at home and collect social security.

The movie was long, drawn out and the telling of the story could've been done in a much more concise manner than it was. The Dave Berry article on the movie basically exaggerated the flaws of the movie. Basically, a lot of the movie could've been cut or combined as it didn't contribute much to the film to have it move as slowly as it did.

I enjoyed the films, but this was the main problem that I've found. I know they cut out a bunch of stuff anyway, but I just got the impression that the filmmakers were more worried about keeping the fanboys happy rather than making an excellent film. There's nothing wrong with doing that and like I said, I did enjoy the films, but you can't expect a film like that to win Best Picture when it's not best picture material.

 

[Red Dawn]

The movie was long, drawn out and the telling of the story could've been done in a much more concise manner than it was.

On the contrary, I believe that the movie was told in a very concise manner despite it being long. As for it being the best Picture thisd year, I've only seen GONY out of the other Nominees so I'm not in position to make an informed judgement. I will this this, It was a much better Movie than GONY (which really isn't saying a whole lot)

BTW, never mention a Dave Berry Article to prove a point unless it's about being extremely facestious.

 

[LikeLinus]

One thing i don't think people realize is that TTT lacks an ending after a long and drawn out movie. The problem with this "movie" is there really is not Start or Finish. It just tells part of a story. Does that make it "Best Picture". I mean it doesnt even finish a story in 3 hours worth of time.

Don't get me wrong, I loved the movie and everything, but i think you miss the point that only "FANS" of LOTR are going to care this much about a broken story. The general public Is going to like movies like Chicago that have a full Tale to tell and wrap it all up nicely in a single package. I don't think they care much about being left having to wait a year to finish up a movie. To me that does NOT make it "best picture" because it didn't even follow through with everything that makes up what a movie is. To take 3 years to finish off a story is what hurts it the most.

I personally think that is LOTR's major downfall as far as the Oscars are concerned. It has no reason not to win the technical awards though.

We still love the movies though

 

[Platypus]

The Road to Perdition is 10 times the movie Gangs of New York will ever be. Sorceses' by far worst direction, from a mediocre director in the first place. His little signature touches, that he adds in every film completely ruined the film. The only thing that saved this film from being so horrible was Daniel Day Lewis. He by far should win best actor. True, the movie adaptation of The Road to Perdition was a weak one, it still had the charm and power the book had, if only in certain scenes. The thing that ruins Gangs of New York for me is the terrible acting. Cameron Diaz has never been good in a single movie except Being John Malkovich, and that's because Spike Jonze directed it. Leonardo Di Caprio's role was so forced, and predictable. On the other hand, every actor in The Road to Perdition executed their part flawlessly. I never watch the award shows because they really are not an indication of anything. Also, the Two Towers was such an improvement over Fellowship, and again, Peter Jackson is skipped over for director.

 

[kami]

pulse8

I dunno how you can say TTT was long and drawn out. I was begging for more! It felt like 1.5 hours instead of 3 to me. When you say it was to please the fanboys, I'm guessing you say this because all the names being thrown at you confused you or something like that. Yeah, it's a lot to take in...but doesn't it make it feel more real? I'm convinced that no one can fully appreciate any of the LOTR films without seeing it 3 times...or bare minimum 2 times.

It's also kinda disappointing not to see TTT get best adapted screenplay. I don't think anyone else could tell so much in a 3 hour period...what they did was pretty remarkable.

GONY, while interesting, has one of the most convoluted Choatic endings I've ever seen. It was like it ran 45 minutes to long and the Editing Dept. ran out of money to finish the job.

Yeah...I was thoroughly unimpressed, but I wanted to like this movie. I was really looking forward to it.


I'll be honest, Chicago and those films just aren't my cup of tea. I'd probably fall asleep

 

[SOSTrooper]

Originally posted by: pulse8

Some of us actually have to work and don't just sit at home and collect social security.

The movie was long, drawn out and the telling of the story could've been done in a much more concise manner than it was. The Dave Berry article on the movie basically exaggerated the flaws of the movie. Basically, a lot of the movie could've been cut or combined as it didn't contribute much to the film to have it move as slowly as it did.

I enjoyed the films, but this was the main problem that I've found. I know they cut out a bunch of stuff anyway, but I just got the impression that the filmmakers were more worried about keeping the fanboys happy rather than making an excellent film. There's nothing wrong with doing that and like I said, I did enjoy the films, but you can't expect a film like that to win Best Picture when it's not best picture material.

I totally agree w/ you. TTT is a very fun and entertaining piece of work, but putting it on top as the best film of the year is like saying N'Sync is the best band ever (as if saying Peter Jackson is best director this year). Sure their albums are topping sales charts (just like TTT topping box office), and has a large fan base (just like TTT), but that doesnt necessarily mean it is the best. Think of it this way, most of us oppose N'Sync as the best band, just like the Academy voters are oppose TTT as best picture. It's that simple. Academy is always about stories illustrating people's lives fall apart, about the harsh reality of life itself, about heroic and struggling and triumph, and about love. If you look at the rest of the 4 nominees, they clash firmly, if not perfectly, into those categories that the Academy praise. TTT, on the other hand, is just a fairy tale told in the skillful hands of PJ, thats why it'll only win the technical nominations and not the big 8.

 

[kami]

How the hell can you compare TTT to n'sync? :Q It's not some sh!tty movie that everyone likes, but the critics hate for example. TTT is pretty rare in that it has huge box office takes as well as critical acclaim...189 reviews, and only 5 of them rotten?

Usually the movies that get critical acclaim don't make too much at the box office...usually just average or worse than average.

Well...in my opinion anyway Point is moot i guess

 

[ElFenix]

bah, the academy awards has been a big political fest for the past decade. did you actually see the english patient? awful!

 

[LikeLinus]

critical acclaim = rottan tomatos? HAHAHAH best one yet.

You never said anything to what i said...cause it's probably true