Osama

[GasX]

Imagine for a moment that you are a little girl in Taliban run Afghanistan.

You are not allowed out of the house without a male escort or you will be beaten by the Taliban. Sadly, your father, brother and uncle are dead. So you can't leave at all. Your mother is a nurse at the hospital but they can't afford to pay her anymore and even if they could, she can't go to work without the aforementioned escort which she doesn't have. You, your mother and your grandmother are poor, hungry and desperate.

What do you do?

Well, your grandmother cuts off your hair and dresses you like a boy so you can work at the store of a man who fought with your father.

All is well and good until the Taliban sends all the boys off to school...

 

[pyonir]

I do want to see this...

 

[yukichigai]

Sounds like a realistic version of A Handmaid's Tale.

Yeah, when religion and government mix -- any religion, not just an Islamic one -- the results tend to be pretty crappy. I'm fairly certain taking out the Taliban was a good thing. Now if only we'd left enough troops there afterwards.

 

[waggy]

oh wow. seems like a movie worth watching.

 

[GasX]

Originally posted by: waggy
oh wow. seems like a movie worth watching.

Definitely!

The ending pretty much leaves you speechless. If you rent it, get a comedy to watch afterwards. You'll need it.

 

[imported_Cheeseburger]

It's a shame we overthrew the Taliban. According to some of the 'crats the women are worse off over there now then when they were under the rule of the Taliban.

 

[yukichigai]

Originally posted by: Cheeseburger
It's a shame we overthrew the Taliban. According to some of the 'crats the women are worse off over there now then when they were under the rule of the Taliban.

Are you high?

 

[MadPeriot]

I saw a DVD copy of this at Frys, thinking of buying it but figure I'll just go to a local blockbuster and rent it. Looks like a good movie.

 

[GasX]

Originally posted by: yukichigai

Originally posted by: Cheeseburger
It's a shame we overthrew the Taliban. According to some of the 'crats the women are worse off over there now then when they were under the rule of the Taliban.

Are you high?

maybe he put the rufie in the wrong glass...

 

[MAME]

Not related really but I'm not going to make a new thread: Why does everyone get upset about the tradition of women's clothing in the middle east? It's just a difference of culture, and probably has traditional themes behind it

 

[GasX]

Originally posted by: MAME
Not related really but I'm not going to make a new thread: Why does everyone get upset about the tradition of women's clothing in the middle east? It's just a difference of culture, and probably has traditional themes behind it

yeah, like opressing women...
:roll:

 

[UNCjigga]

Originally posted by: Cheeseburger
It's a shame we overthrew the Taliban. According to some of the 'crats the women are worse off over there now then when they were under the rule of the Taliban.

Which 'crats? Sources? Links??

Seriously, there's no farking way ANYONE is worse off with the Taliban gone. Hell, I thought we should've gone in and killed 'em off when they destroyed that 1000-year old 100 foot Buddha carved into a mountain because it was "made by infidels". HELLO MCFLY, MUHAMMAD WASN'T AROUND BACK THEN!!!

 

[MAME]

Originally posted by: Mwilding

Originally posted by: MAME
Not related really but I'm not going to make a new thread: Why does everyone get upset about the tradition of women's clothing in the middle east? It's just a difference of culture, and probably has traditional themes behind it

yeah, like opressing women...
:roll:

My gf majored in Anthropology. She studied many cultures where it looks like women are oppressed but that's just because American's aren't used to it. This seems to be a good example

 

[GasX]

Originally posted by: MAME

Originally posted by: Mwilding

Originally posted by: MAME
Not related really but I'm not going to make a new thread: Why does everyone get upset about the tradition of women's clothing in the middle east? It's just a difference of culture, and probably has traditional themes behind it

yeah, like opressing women...
:roll:

My gf majored in Anthropology. She studied many cultures where it looks like women are oppressed but that's just because American's aren't used to it. This seems to be a good example

Burkha's are a fashion statement?

Do you have an extra 21st chromosome?

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: MAME
Not related really but I'm not going to make a new thread: Why does everyone get upset about the tradition of women's clothing in the middle east? It's just a difference of culture, and probably has traditional themes behind it

Why do people get upset when they mutilate women's genitalia...it's cultural after all...

 

[yukichigai]

Originally posted by: Mwilding

Originally posted by: MAME

Originally posted by: Mwilding

Originally posted by: MAME
Not related really but I'm not going to make a new thread: Why does everyone get upset about the tradition of women's clothing in the middle east? It's just a difference of culture, and probably has traditional themes behind it

yeah, like opressing women...
:roll:

My gf majored in Anthropology. She studied many cultures where it looks like women are oppressed but that's just because American's aren't used to it. This seems to be a good example

Burkha's are a fashion statement?

Do you have an extra 21st chromosome?

I have to agree with MAME here. The child of one of our family friends is very Muslim, and wore a Burkha all through high school. This wasn't because her parents oppressed her -- in fact her father is an Atheist -- it was just her religious choice. Now aside from the usual initial reactions of surprise/etc it wasn't a problem. In fact last I heard she was pursuing an Engineering major at UC Berkley. (Or some major Uni anyway) The Burkha wasn't a sign of her being held back, certainly not in a career sense. It was simply a statement of her observance of certain traditions.

The Burkha is just culture. Believe me, women can be oppressed plenty without Burkhas.

 

sounds like a good movie................or a cheesy porn plot intro

 

[MAME]

Originally posted by: yukichigai

Originally posted by: Mwilding

Originally posted by: MAME

Originally posted by: Mwilding

Originally posted by: MAME
Not related really but I'm not going to make a new thread: Why does everyone get upset about the tradition of women's clothing in the middle east? It's just a difference of culture, and probably has traditional themes behind it

yeah, like opressing women...
:roll:

My gf majored in Anthropology. She studied many cultures where it looks like women are oppressed but that's just because American's aren't used to it. This seems to be a good example

Burkha's are a fashion statement?

Do you have an extra 21st chromosome?

I have to agree with MAME here. The child of one of our family friends is very Muslim, and wore a Burkha all through high school. This wasn't because her parents oppressed her -- in fact her father is an Atheist -- it was just her religious choice. Now aside from the usual initial reactions of surprise/etc it wasn't a problem. In fact last I heard she was pursuing an Engineering major at UC Berkley. (Or some major Uni anyway) The Burkha wasn't a sign of her being held back, certainly not in a career sense. It was simply a statement of her observance of certain traditions.

The Burkha is just culture. Believe me, women can be oppressed plenty without Burkhas.

Thank god for you sir. It's so much harder to hate/disagree with a culture when you actually know something about it. We don't study enough cultures in school.

 

[GreatBarracuda]

Do you have an extra 21st chromosome?[/quote]I have to agree with MAME here. The child of one of our family friends is very Muslim, and wore a Burkha all through high school. This wasn't because her parents oppressed her -- in fact her father is an Atheist -- it was just her religious choice. Now aside from the usual initial reactions of surprise/etc it wasn't a problem. In fact last I heard she was pursuing an Engineering major at UC Berkley. (Or some major Uni anyway) The Burkha wasn't a sign of her being held back, certainly not in a career sense. It was simply a statement of her observance of certain traditions.

The Burkha is just culture. Believe me, women can be oppressed plenty without Burkhas.[/quote]

Exactly. While it is true that the Taliban were a little extreme, they DID keep the country under control. Crime rate was very low. Women in Islam are not allowed to travel LONG distances without a male. The Taliban were wrong in this regard as they didn't let women leave their homes even for a walk around the block.

As for Burkha's, you don't have to wear a tank-top and shorts to be called free. Don't judge everything by American standards. There are other nations in the world too with their own unique cultures (some of which go hundreds if not thousands of years back). America in this regard is but a thumb-sucking infant.

 

[spidey07]

Mame,

So oppressing women, owning then, mutiliating them, murdering them, stoning them is a good thing? As long as its cultural?

I think you're crossing the line here.

 

[GasX]

interresting reading

 

[GasX]

Originally posted by: GreatBarracudaExactly. While it is true that the Taliban were a little extreme, they DID keep the country under control. Crime rate was very low.

I am sure their published crime statistics are highly accurate and take into account all of the violent excesses of the Taliban mullahs and their thugs...

I'd also like to point out that wearing a veil or burkha or even a scooby doo costume is not inherently oppressive until there are repurcussions for NOT wearing it. An excerpt from my "interesting reading" link above:

[The] Ministry of Education in Iran, specifies the color code for girls students covered from head to toe for children as young as 6 years of age. Islamic Mullahs sets the rules of women clothing for older women, only black, brown and dark blue colors are allowed. Bright colors, especially red color are strictly prohibited. In Afghanistan, only black and white colors are allowed. In 1998, one young woman was whipped harshly in Kabul ,for wearing red color clothing. There are some sahi Hadiths about forbidden colors in Islam.

 

[MAME]

Originally posted by: GreatBarracuda
Do you have an extra 21st chromosome?

I have to agree with MAME here. The child of one of our family friends is very Muslim, and wore a Burkha all through high school. This wasn't because her parents oppressed her -- in fact her father is an Atheist -- it was just her religious choice. Now aside from the usual initial reactions of surprise/etc it wasn't a problem. In fact last I heard she was pursuing an Engineering major at UC Berkley. (Or some major Uni anyway) The Burkha wasn't a sign of her being held back, certainly not in a career sense. It was simply a statement of her observance of certain traditions.

The Burkha is just culture. Believe me, women can be oppressed plenty without Burkhas.[/quote]

Exactly. While it is true that the Taliban were a little extreme, they DID keep the country under control. Crime rate was very low. Women in Islam are not allowed to travel LONG distances without a male. The Taliban were wrong in this regard as they didn't let women leave their homes even for a walk around the block.

As for Burkha's, you don't have to wear a tank-top and shorts to be called free. Don't judge everything by American standards. There are other nations in the world too with their own unique cultures (some of which go hundreds if not thousands of years back). America in this regard is but a thumb-sucking infant.[/quote]

 

[toekramp]

7/10

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: Cheeseburger
It's a shame we overthrew the Taliban. According to some of the 'crats the women are worse off over there now then when they were under the rule of the Taliban.

you are smoking something....