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nageov3t

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heh. Bush has made the same mistake, refering to Saddam Hussain as Osama :p

it happens... humans sometimes get tripped up during speaches.
 

ayabe

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And others will make the same mistake, which is why I don't think he has a chance in hell of being elected. That name is too foreign to Americans, and too similar to OBL.
 

TravisT

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I don't think the name will have much impact on the votes. Anyone voting based on how the name sounds probably doesn't know anything about the issues or care about politics at all... probably to the point that they wouldn't even bother going to vote. Although I definitely agree that the Republicans would have a field-day with the name. :p
 

ProfJohn

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I think this illustrates how petty some of the people are when it comes to the Bush attacks.
Yes, he tends to make verbal gaffes, and for that the left calls him stupid etc.
However, Ted Kennedy makes a gaffe and it gets ignored. Double standard.
 

nageov3t

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
I think this illustrates how petty some of the people are when it comes to the Bush attacks.
Yes, he tends to make verbal gaffes, and for that the left calls him stupid etc.
However, Ted Kennedy makes a gaffe and it gets ignored. Double standard.

the President of the United States of America is more important than some senator from Massachusets?
 

ayabe

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
I think this illustrates how petty some of the people are when it comes to the Bush attacks.
Yes, he tends to make verbal gaffes, and for that the left calls him stupid etc.
However, Ted Kennedy makes a gaffe and it gets ignored. Double standard.

The difference is very clear and evident in your post, gaffe is singular, gaffes is plural. Using the wrong name isn't the same as using poor grammar, or mispronouncing words. This is the leader of the free world we are talking about, and it's embarrassing that he can't form complete sentences. I would love to be a fly on the wall when he holds private meetings with other leaders.

 

Red Dawn

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I think this illustrates how petty some of the people are when it comes to the Bush attacks.
Yes, he tends to make verbal gaffes, and for that the left calls him stupid etc.
However, Ted Kennedy makes a gaffe and it gets ignored. Double standard.
Kennedy if a fat drunk who can't keep his pants on. Fortunately he's not in charge of the country, unfortunately that idiot Bush is.
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
I think this illustrates how petty some of the people are when it comes to the Bush attacks.
Yes, he tends to make verbal gaffes, and for that the left calls him stupid etc.
However, Ted Kennedy makes a gaffe and it gets ignored. Double standard.

the President of the United States of America is more important than some senator from Massachusets?

puhlease

That is a really lame attempt at dismissing the hypocrisy within our MSM.

 

TravisT

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Bush is definitely not a great public speaker. It doesn't make him stupid. If people were immediately placed in the dumb category for miscommunication in a public setting we would all be there. In my opinion, if this is one of the biggest things that the Democrats can attack our president on... then we know it is a quiet day. :)
 

Pabster

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Kennedy if a fat drunk who can't keep his pants on. Fortunately he's not in charge of the country, unfortunately that idiot Bush is.

At least Bush didn't leave a woman at the bottom of the river.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Kennedy if a fat drunk who can't keep his pants on. Fortunately he's not in charge of the country, unfortunately that idiot Bush is.

At least Bush didn't leave a woman at the bottom of the river.
So the only thing good you can say about Bush is that he's not as big an asshole as Kennedy? Kennedy did cause the death of one woman, Bush on the other hand has thousands of deaths on his hands.
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: Pabster
At least Bush didn't leave a woman at the bottom of the river.
No, he's just got the blood of nearly 3,000 dead American troops, tens of thousands of American wounded and probably hundreds of thousands of other dead and wounded on his hands. So far, Bush is the only one of the two who's still lying and hasn't taken responsibility for his death toll.
 

Craig234

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I think this illustrates how petty some of the people are when it comes to the Bush attacks...

However, Ted Kennedy makes a gaffe and it gets ignored. Double standard.

ProfJohn logic:

Post is made attacking Kennedy for an innocent, common gaffe on Osama/Obama.

John's reaction: it illustrates how low some will go on *Bush* attacks.

FWIW, I recall some fun poking at Bush over it, and no 'serious' attacks on him for it.

On the other hand, even from someone not a Bush partisan, we have:

Kennedy if a fat drunk who can't keep his pants on.

Red Dawn, can you offer one or two facts whatsoever in the last 15 years to justify that attack? One single drinking embarrassment, one single sexual indiscretion?

If not, back off. The man has changed his behavior and 20 year old attacks are a bit excessive.

(So, what about Bush some might ask. Issues involving ongoing chronic effects of earlier alchoholism affecting behavior today, covering up a DUI with the legal maneuvering of a man he just happened to appoint the attorney general of the United States, etc., are more relevant).
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Craig234
I think this illustrates how petty some of the people are when it comes to the Bush attacks...

However, Ted Kennedy makes a gaffe and it gets ignored. Double standard.

ProfJohn logic:

Post is made attacking Kennedy for an innocent, common gaffe on Osama/Obama.

John's reaction: it illustrates how low some will go on *Bush* attacks.

FWIW, I recall some fun poking at Bush over it, and no 'serious' attacks on him for it.

On the other hand, even from someone not a Bush partisan, we have:

Kennedy if a fat drunk who can't keep his pants on.

Red Dawn, can you offer one or two facts whatsoever in the last 15 years to justify that attack? One single drinking embarrassment, one single sexual indiscretion?

If not, back off. The man has changed his behavior and 20 year old attacks are a bit excessive.
Kiss my ass, that fat POS has gotten away with things the average Joe would have done time for just because he's a Kennedy.
 

Pabster

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Originally posted by: Harvey
No, he's just got the blood of nearly 3,000 dead American troops, tens of thousands of American wounded and probably hundreds of thousands of other dead and wounded on his hands. So far, Bush is the only one of the two who's still lying and hasn't taken responsibility for his death toll.

Nice try, Harvey.

No amount of your anti-Bush rhetoric and partisan hackery will change the fact that Ted Kennedy left a young woman to die at the bottom of a river.

Your obfuscation skills suck.
 

Pens1566

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Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: Harvey
No, he's just got the blood of nearly 3,000 dead American troops, tens of thousands of American wounded and probably hundreds of thousands of other dead and wounded on his hands. So far, Bush is the only one of the two who's still lying and hasn't taken responsibility for his death toll.

Nice try, Harvey.

No amount of your anti-Bush rhetoric and partisan hackery will change the fact that Ted Kennedy left a young woman to die at the bottom of a river.

Which is trumped by leaving 140,000 troops to die in the desert.

Your obfuscation skills suck.

He learned them by watching you and Prof. Speaking of which, do you two have a bet going to see who is the bigger joke on this forum??

 

jman19

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Originally posted by: Pens1566
Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: Harvey
No, he's just got the blood of nearly 3,000 dead American troops, tens of thousands of American wounded and probably hundreds of thousands of other dead and wounded on his hands. So far, Bush is the only one of the two who's still lying and hasn't taken responsibility for his death toll.

Nice try, Harvey.

No amount of your anti-Bush rhetoric and partisan hackery will change the fact that Ted Kennedy left a young woman to die at the bottom of a river.

Which is trumped by leaving 140,000 troops to die in the desert.

Your obfuscation skills suck.

He learned them by watching you and Prof. Speaking of which, do you two have a bet going to see who is the bigger joke on this forum??

Heh, well while ProfJohn gets some people worked up on this board and is a huge partisan, he at least does present some facts. Pabster is nothing more than a right-wing parrot. Not that there aren't plenty of people on the left here who fall into one of those categories.

 

hellokeith

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
However, Ted Kennedy makes a gaffe and it gets ignored. Double standard.

Interesting you say that, because I couldn't find the quote in *any* news site. Perhaps I didn't search exhaustively, but I did search. Seems newsworthy to me considering how the news sites cover every single thing conservative figures say.
 

jman19

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Originally posted by: hellokeith
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
However, Ted Kennedy makes a gaffe and it gets ignored. Double standard.

Interesting you say that, because I couldn't find the quote in *any* news site. Perhaps I didn't search exhaustively, but I did search. Seems newsworthy to me considering how the news sites cover every single thing conservative figures say.

On one hand you have conservatives crying about how the media is against them; on the other hand they thump their chests about how many people view Fox and other "liberal" media outlets are being rendered meaningless. So which is it?
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: Pabster
Nice try, Harvey.

No amount of your anti-Bush rhetoric and partisan hackery will change the fact that Ted Kennedy left a young woman to die at the bottom of a river.

Your obfuscation skills suck.
Nice try, Pabster, but my anti-Bush rhetoric would be meaningless if it weren't true.

If you can raisea the issue of Kennedy and Mary Jo Kopechne's death on 18 July 1969 and contrasted it to Bush, there's no reason not to bring up the rest of the thought for clear understanding of the comparison you chose to make.

Mary Jo Kopechne died 38 years ago, and we've got a lot of other historical documentation on what Kennedy's done since then. George W. Bush is personally responsible for 3,000 dead American troops, tens of thousands of American wounded and hundreds of thousands of other dead and wounded, and all of the history surrounding the events that were the cause of those deaths and injuries is clear that every one of the lame excuses Bush gave the American people and the world were LIES.

You can label my post as "obfuscation" as much as you want, but it doesn't change the truth. To quote former New York Senator Danial Patrick Moynihan, "you are entitled to your own opinion, but you are not entitled to your own facts."

Your dissembling skills suck. :cool:
 

PELarson

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Craig234
I think this illustrates how petty some of the people are when it comes to the Bush attacks...

However, Ted Kennedy makes a gaffe and it gets ignored. Double standard.

ProfJohn logic:

Post is made attacking Kennedy for an innocent, common gaffe on Osama/Obama.

John's reaction: it illustrates how low some will go on *Bush* attacks.

FWIW, I recall some fun poking at Bush over it, and no 'serious' attacks on him for it.

On the other hand, even from someone not a Bush partisan, we have:

Kennedy if a fat drunk who can't keep his pants on.

Red Dawn, can you offer one or two facts whatsoever in the last 15 years to justify that attack? One single drinking embarrassment, one single sexual indiscretion?

If not, back off. The man has changed his behavior and 20 year old attacks are a bit excessive.
Kiss my ass, that fat POS has gotten away with things the average Joe would have done time for just because he's a Kennedy.


Now... now... Laura Bush is neither a Kennedy, fat, or male. Just because she got away with driving through a stop sign and killing her ex-boyfriend is no reason to bad mouth her!

 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: PELarson
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Craig234
I think this illustrates how petty some of the people are when it comes to the Bush attacks...

However, Ted Kennedy makes a gaffe and it gets ignored. Double standard.

ProfJohn logic:

Post is made attacking Kennedy for an innocent, common gaffe on Osama/Obama.

John's reaction: it illustrates how low some will go on *Bush* attacks.

FWIW, I recall some fun poking at Bush over it, and no 'serious' attacks on him for it.

On the other hand, even from someone not a Bush partisan, we have:

Kennedy if a fat drunk who can't keep his pants on.

Red Dawn, can you offer one or two facts whatsoever in the last 15 years to justify that attack? One single drinking embarrassment, one single sexual indiscretion?

If not, back off. The man has changed his behavior and 20 year old attacks are a bit excessive.
Kiss my ass, that fat POS has gotten away with things the average Joe would have done time for just because he's a Kennedy.


Now... now... Laura Bush is neither a Kennedy, fat, or male. Just because she got away with driving through a stop sign and killing her ex-boyfriend is no reason to bad mouth her!
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