It may be trivial to some who actually know what happened, but to others that aren't so familiar with what happened, there is a BIG difference by saying "with" or "against".
It may be trivial to some who actually know what happened, but to others that aren't so familiar with what happened, there is a BIG difference by saying "with" or "against".
then maybe you should say that instead of "lol fox news said he fought WITH the Russians" which he clearly did. think before you speak and people won't mistake you for an idiot.
"He had a fight with Russians" is very different than "He fought alongside Russians". You guys are grasping at straws. I don't even watch Fox News, I don't have cable, but so many of you guys reach for stupid shit just because they are the "other team".
here's another example "he had a fight with some Mexicans" does that mean he fought alongside them or had a fight WITH them, which means against? if you think alongside, you're comprehension of the English language is third rate and you should probably take some night classes.
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I like when Fox News goofs up just as much as I like when MSNBC goofs up. I don't have a team, and I enjoy watching hacks look like idiots.
We're just going to have to agree to disagree that the communication in this case was botched.
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I can't wait for the Deathers. Deathers are Birthers who had their mouth shut two weeks ago. Now, they will demand; "show us the body".
Also, I enjoy the shut the fuck up all of Obama's critics got shoved into their mouth, about what a wimp he is. Don't worry, you'll have the next 4 years to chew and swallow - take your time.
And, when something like 9/11 ever happens again (and lets hope it never does), you don't go in guns blazing, thus allowing the master mind to leave his known location and spend the next 10 years, two wars and hundreds of thousands of dead and wounded trying to "find him".
Also, I enjoy the shut the fuck up all of Obama's critics got shoved into their mouth, about what a wimp he is. Don't worry, you'll have the next 4 years to chew and swallow - take your time.
And, when something like 9/11 ever happens again (and lets hope it never does), you don't go in guns blazing, thus allowing the master mind to leave his known location and spend the next 10 years, two wars and hundreds of thousands of dead and wounded trying to "find him".
Or we could you know... have taken a much tougher stance on Pakistan and probably have got to him earlier. Instead we tried to be mister nice guy to save face. We aren't Easterners though, we're Westerners and we should not give a flying fuck about saving face.
He was shot twice in the head. Even if they did show the body it probably wouldnt be easily identifiable.
What 'tougher stance' would you have advocated? How would this have led to him being 'gotten earlier'? Be specific.
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Wouldn't such a shrine be a great place to see who we should keep an eye on? Maybe even have teams ready to scramble if anyone of interest comes by.
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the actual quote was
"He fought along side russians during the invasion of afghanistan, the russians had promised him to make it a safe haven for terrorists like him so they could plan the destruction of america hand in hand."
So yes, they blatantly said he was fighting WITH russians not AGAINST russians.
Reading the BBC right now. Saying that the DNA match was near 100%, a woman thought to be his wife confirmed, and that the body only has "similar features to Osama". Pics required to verify. Doesn't the US government browse the internet at all? It could'dve been one of his billion brothers, or even a look alike, I mean it is Pakistan there has got to be at least a hundred people who are 6'5, scrony, with a beard. who underwent dialysis in a cave right?
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davmat787
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Just curious, why surprised? Given the timeline, they had plenty of time for a mockup. Some 2x4's, sheetrock, and cinderblock are cheap, and a mockup is SOP. Only time will limit the detail or amount of effort put into the mockup.
xj0hnx
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That would be the Mozambique technique, or Failure to Stop drill, which we don't routinely train. One report said that there was a photographic confirmation of the body between in theater, and the Pentagon, and I wouldn't be surprised at all if there was a helmet cam of the raid, I hope it leaks someday.
Even though this is really nothing more than symbolic, it is a powerful symbol, and much needed. Anyone that thinks this is going to ave any effect on us withdrawing from Afghanistan doesn't know shit about what's going on in Afghanistan.
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Because I'm surprised that there was that much time. I was under the impression that he was still moving from place to place frequently and so with that in mind you would hit him as soon as you got the chance. Looks like that's not the case, so we had more time to prepare.
By the way, for a good time go visit Freep; watching the meltdown there is pretty fun. In something I never thought I would see, extreme right wing conservatives are flipping out because the military executed Osama Bin Laden. Quite a few of them are convinced it's part of a greater Obama conspiracy to interrupt Celebrity Apprentice. (no, really)
HybridSquirrel
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At least the left has come around to lauding late-night raids, executions, and information obtained from Gitmo through "alternate" means, instead of believing that the military does nothing but murder women and children in cold blood and bomb the shit out of civilians.
After so many years of this attitude, it is nice to see that some people can change their minds overnight.
After so many years of this attitude, it is nice to see that some people can change their minds overnight.
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Throckmorton
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Is English not your first language? You don't normally say "fight with" unless you're talking about a fight with your girlfriend or maybe a fist fight. "We're fighting with the terrorists". "We're fighting with the Taliban". See how it doesn't sound right? Fucking moron. I mean FOXing moron.
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