Orrin Hatch the software pirate.

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yukichigai

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All I have to say is how would they ever enforce something like this effectively when there are all manner of other, free OSs out there? I say this because I imagine they'd make it some kind of requirement for every OS made or sold in the US to have that aspect in it, but who's to stop me from running a free Linux build?

Anyway, yeah, nice way to open your mouth and insert your foot up to the knee, Senator Jackhole.
 

OutHouse

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I like these quotes from the first link.

Milonic's Woolley said the senator's unlicensed use of his software was just "the tip of the iceberg." He said he knows of at least two other senators using unlicensed copies of his software, and many big companies.

Continental Airlines, for example, one of the largest airlines in the United States, uses Woolley's system throughout its Continental.com website. Woolley said the airline has not paid for the software. Worse, the copyright notices in the source code have been removed.

"That really pisses me off," he said.

 

dullard

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Originally posted by: tcsenter
Well of course this demonstrates the childish and dullard mindset of the pro-piracy crowd.
But I'm not pro-piracy.

 

gopunk

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Originally posted by: tcsenter
Well of course this demonstrates the childish and dullard mindset of the pro-piracy crowd.

I highly doubt Senator Orin Hatch has the time or inclination to code his own web page. I also suspect he had no involvement in development of his web pages or the selection of code, which would be the responsibility and scope of the web page authors. Indeed, it is highly doubtful that anyone from Hatch's staff did the work, and it is more likely this is provided to all Senators by the same Congressional Services people.

There is no such thing as 'accidental' piracy, and if there were, it wouldn't be Orin Hatch who would be culpable for this copyright violation. But the pro-piracy kiddies know all of that, they're just trying to be 'smart' and failing quite miserably.
I just tried Sen. Hatch's site a few minutes ago and it was down. It's now up again and there is no mention of Milonic Solutions in the source code.
Of course you did.
rolleye.gif


effect = "Fade(duration=0.3);Alpha(style=0,opacity=95);Shadow(color='Black', Direction=135, Strength=3);" // Special effect string for IE5.5 or above please visit http://www.milonic.co.uk/menu/filters_sample.php for more filters

And of course, this attribution hasn't changed since <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:gYnQR9XlVlkJ:www.senate.gov/~hatch/+Senator+orrin+hatch&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
">Google last cached Hatch's webpages a few months ago</a>.

Sucks getting caught lying doesn't it.

i doubt he was lying, probably just didn't notice it.

and regardless of whether or not he personally wrote the code, it's clear that those servers ought to be destroyed ;)
 

DanFungus

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Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: tcsenter
Well of course this demonstrates the childish and dullard mindset of the pro-piracy crowd.

I highly doubt Senator Orin Hatch has the time or inclination to code his own web page. I also suspect he had no involvement in development of his web pages or the selection of code, which would be the responsibility and scope of the web page authors. Indeed, it is highly doubtful that anyone from Hatch's staff did the work, and it is more likely this is provided to all Senators by the same Congressional Services people.

There is no such thing as 'accidental' piracy, and if there were, it wouldn't be Orin Hatch who would be culpable for this copyright violation. But the pro-piracy kiddies know all of that, they're just trying to be 'smart' and failing quite miserably.
I just tried Sen. Hatch's site a few minutes ago and it was down. It's now up again and there is no mention of Milonic Solutions in the source code.
Of course you did.
rolleye.gif


effect = "Fade(duration=0.3);Alpha(style=0,opacity=95);Shadow(color='Black', Direction=135, Strength=3);" // Special effect string for IE5.5 or above please visit http://www.milonic.co.uk/menu/filters_sample.php for more filters

And of course, this attribution hasn't changed since <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:gYnQR9XlVlkJ:www.senate.gov/~hatch/+Senator+orrin+hatch&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
">Google last cached Hatch's webpages a few months ago</a>.

Sucks getting caught lying doesn't it.

i doubt he was lying, probably just didn't notice it.

and regardless of whether or not he personally wrote the code, it's clear that those servers ought to be destroyed ;)

with Hatch standing next to them :D
 

Gravity

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Heard this on the radio yesterday...LMAO!!! Politicians are so very clueless. Let's get his ip addy and then we can.....nm.

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Encryptic

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Originally posted by: przero
It's freeware for "non-profit" use. He did not register the software.

Technically, isn't he going to profit from this if he campaigns for any issues he's pushing or if he makes a bid for re-election? :D