Orinoco Gold/Silver PCMCIA 44.99 shipped

[Maverick215]

Originally posted by: nhidog

Originally posted by: rufruf44
A tad off topic, but how good are these Orinoco's Gold/Silver compared to the wireless card offering from the usual vendors (Netgear, DLink, Linksys, etc) ?

These are the second best card out on the market with respect to range. The only card that is better than the Orinoco's are Cisco Aironet which run for 2 to 3x the price. These card however are only 802.11b version and I'm not sure if or when they will release an 802.11a version which is offered by other vendors. But compared to the other "b" versions, these are the best unless you go the Cisco route.

Umm... sorry but I doubt seriously (I don't have either to test) that this card (a 30mW card) can even come close to the range offered by the newer prism 2.5 based Senao cards(200mW) from engenius and netgate. regardless they can come in a model without internal antenna (better for long distance links). AND they are supported under linux with HOSTAP.
http://www.engeniustech.com/product/2511wireless.html
http://www.demarctech.com/products/reliawave-rwz/reliawave-rwz-200mw-prism2-5-pcmcia-card.html
http://www.netgate.com/NL2511.html
yea these cards cost 90 and up, but if you want to play you gotta pay

 

[pcNate]

Does anyone know about the compatibility of this to a windows CE device? I've been thinking about getting an older IBM z50 unit, it's in a laptop form factor, but runs Windows CE 3.0, and it has a PCMCIA slot, I was thinking it'd be great if I could make that wireless. I see it says it supports "supports Microsoft® Windows® 98, 98SE, Me, 2000, XP", but is there a chance for CE? Or do I need to go searching for the small handfull of cards that actually do support it?

 

[Maverick215]

Originally posted by: pcNate
Does anyone know about the compatibility of this to a windows CE device? I've been thinking about getting an older IBM z50 unit, it's in a laptop form factor, but runs Windows CE 3.0, and it has a PCMCIA slot, I was thinking it'd be great if I could make that wireless. I see it says it supports "supports Microsoft® Windows® 98, 98SE, Me, 2000, XP", but is there a chance for CE? Or do I need to go searching for the small handfull of cards that actually do support it?

http://www.orinocowireless.com/template.html?section=m52&envelope=90&page=3271
I think that's what you're asking about

 

[nhidog]

Originally posted by: Maverick215

Originally posted by: nhidog

Originally posted by: rufruf44
A tad off topic, but how good are these Orinoco's Gold/Silver compared to the wireless card offering from the usual vendors (Netgear, DLink, Linksys, etc) ?

These are the second best card out on the market with respect to range. The only card that is better than the Orinoco's are Cisco Aironet which run for 2 to 3x the price. These card however are only 802.11b version and I'm not sure if or when they will release an 802.11a version which is offered by other vendors. But compared to the other "b" versions, these are the best unless you go the Cisco route.

Umm... sorry but I doubt seriously (I don't have either to test) that this card (a 30mW card) can even come close to the range offered by the newer prism 2.5 based Senao cards(200mW) from engenius and netgate. regardless they can come in a model without internal antenna (better for long distance links). AND they are supported under linux with HOSTAP.
http://www.engeniustech.com/product/2511wireless.html
http://www.demarctech.com/products/reliawave-rwz/reliawave-rwz-200mw-prism2-5-pcmcia-card.html
http://www.netgate.com/NL2511.html

yea these cards cost 90 and up, but if you want to play you gotta pay

Just because a card uses 200mW doesn't necessarily mean its better, The Cisco Aironet 350 series uses 100mW and has been field tested at many sites to only best the Orinoco by a few meters, designs are major factor as well (and Aironet knows wireless). And don't play pricing gimmicks, AMD will outperform Intel dollar for dollar and HP sells these cards brand new for 110, so whats your point? Oh and there are available drivers for linux, just look at my link.

 

[nhidog]

Link and Comparison to ALOT of wireless networking gear

I'm just trying to post a good deal for a good card, but you decides what right for you.

 

[Maverick215]

Originally posted by: nhidog

Originally posted by: Maverick215

Originally posted by: nhidog

Originally posted by: rufruf44
A tad off topic, but how good are these Orinoco's Gold/Silver compared to the wireless card offering from the usual vendors (Netgear, DLink, Linksys, etc) ?

These are the second best card out on the market with respect to range. The only card that is better than the Orinoco's are Cisco Aironet which run for 2 to 3x the price. These card however are only 802.11b version and I'm not sure if or when they will release an 802.11a version which is offered by other vendors. But compared to the other "b" versions, these are the best unless you go the Cisco route.

Umm... sorry but I doubt seriously (I don't have either to test) that this card (a 30mW card) can even come close to the range offered by the newer prism 2.5 based Senao cards(200mW) from engenius and netgate. regardless they can come in a model without internal antenna (better for long distance links). AND they are supported under linux with HOSTAP.
http://www.engeniustech.com/product/2511wireless.html
http://www.demarctech.com/products/reliawave-rwz/reliawave-rwz-200mw-prism2-5-pcmcia-card.html
http://www.netgate.com/NL2511.html

yea these cards cost 90 and up, but if you want to play you gotta pay

Just because a card uses 200mW doesn't necessarily mean its better, The Cisco Aironet 350 series uses 100mW and has been field tested at many sites to only best the Orinoco by a few meters, designs are major factor as well (and Aironet knows wireless). And don't play pricing gimmicks, AMD will outperform Intel dollar for dollar and HP sells these cards brand new for 110, so whats your point? Oh and there are available drivers for linux, just look at my link.

to my knowledge orinoco cards do not work with hostap(as they are hermes based)
hostap only supports prism based cards(and these are the only cards with the feature in the firmware).
So the question is, what's you're point?
*edit* to clarify: just because I said it was more expensive I hope you (or anyone else) didn't cull out the notion that I thought more expensive is better.
These cards are more expensive, but they have uses that are beyond those of hermes solutions (yes I know hermes has netstumbler) for me it is more important to have the possibility to provide a fairly powerful AP.
Additionally, on paper atleast, all of these cards have better recieve sensitivities than EITHER cisco or orinoco.
But, I have yet to see a direct comparison, anyone?
*/edit*
at any rate, each card has their plusses and minuses, it's up to the buyer to decide. Just wanted to let ppl know there are other options that may suit their needs better. Better to buy some thing more expensive first (if it's what you need) than buying something cheap and then buying the more expensive one later.
ps: just incase you (or anyone else) are really clueless about hostap...
http://hostap.epitest.fi/
*edit2*
just to show I'm not biased against orinoco
/hkey/local machine/software/orinoco/driver/... APMODE=0
I'm assuming this provides similar functionality under windows, haven't seen it tested yet.
change 0 to 1

 

[nhidog]

I never stated that orinoco works with hostap, I believe the member only wanted to know if the card was support under linux, which it is as a client card. True if you plan to use a client card in conjunction with a linux box, you be better off buying a prismII based card, but I having a dedicated wireless AP have no need for this function. It's great you point these extra features out as other member might want to go for this other solution.

 

[Fritzo]

Cool. I got me one.

I got a Dell Truemobile a while back for $55, but I have an HP laptop, and the Dell badge on the antenna clashes with the HP logos everywhere else (I'm anal like that ). Anyway, looks like I can pretty much get my money back on the Dell from EBay.

 

[Fritzo]

Originally posted by: Maverick215

Originally posted by: nhidog

Originally posted by: rufruf44
A tad off topic, but how good are these Orinoco's Gold/Silver compared to the wireless card offering from the usual vendors (Netgear, DLink, Linksys, etc) ?

These are the second best card out on the market with respect to range. The only card that is better than the Orinoco's are Cisco Aironet which run for 2 to 3x the price. These card however are only 802.11b version and I'm not sure if or when they will release an 802.11a version which is offered by other vendors. But compared to the other "b" versions, these are the best unless you go the Cisco route.

Umm... sorry but I doubt seriously (I don't have either to test) that this card (a 30mW card) can even come close to the range offered by the newer prism 2.5 based Senao cards(200mW) from engenius and netgate. regardless they can come in a model without internal antenna (better for long distance links). AND they are supported under linux with HOSTAP.
http://www.engeniustech.com/product/2511wireless.html
http://www.demarctech.com/products/reliawave-rwz/reliawave-rwz-200mw-prism2-5-pcmcia-card.html
http://www.netgate.com/NL2511.html
yea these cards cost 90 and up, but if you want to play you gotta pay

Yep, Lucent is the way to go. It's compatible with all the cool wifi tools, it's got external antenna support, it's cheap, and it's got EXCELLENT range. I've never heard of Senao.

 

[Fritzo]

Originally posted by: Maverick215

Originally posted by: nhidog

Originally posted by: Maverick215

Originally posted by: nhidog

Originally posted by: rufruf44
A tad off topic, but how good are these Orinoco's Gold/Silver compared to the wireless card offering from the usual vendors (Netgear, DLink, Linksys, etc) ?

These are the second best card out on the market with respect to range. The only card that is better than the Orinoco's are Cisco Aironet which run for 2 to 3x the price. These card however are only 802.11b version and I'm not sure if or when they will release an 802.11a version which is offered by other vendors. But compared to the other "b" versions, these are the best unless you go the Cisco route.

Umm... sorry but I doubt seriously (I don't have either to test) that this card (a 30mW card) can even come close to the range offered by the newer prism 2.5 based Senao cards(200mW) from engenius and netgate. regardless they can come in a model without internal antenna (better for long distance links). AND they are supported under linux with HOSTAP.
http://www.engeniustech.com/product/2511wireless.html
http://www.demarctech.com/products/reliawave-rwz/reliawave-rwz-200mw-prism2-5-pcmcia-card.html
http://www.netgate.com/NL2511.html

yea these cards cost 90 and up, but if you want to play you gotta pay

Just because a card uses 200mW doesn't necessarily mean its better, The Cisco Aironet 350 series uses 100mW and has been field tested at many sites to only best the Orinoco by a few meters, designs are major factor as well (and Aironet knows wireless). And don't play pricing gimmicks, AMD will outperform Intel dollar for dollar and HP sells these cards brand new for 110, so whats your point? Oh and there are available drivers for linux, just look at my link.

to my knowledge orinoco cards do not work with hostap(as they are hermes based)
hostap only supports prism based cards(and these are the only cards with the feature in the firmware).
So the question is, what's you're point?
*edit* to clarify: just because I said it was more expensive I hope you (or anyone else) didn't cull out the notion that I thought more expensive is better.
These cards are more expensive, but they have uses that are beyond those of hermes solutions (yes I know hermes has netstumbler) for me it is more important to have the possibility to provide a fairly powerful AP.
Additionally, on paper atleast, all of these cards have better recieve sensitivities than EITHER cisco or orinoco.
But, I have yet to see a direct comparison, anyone?
*/edit*
at any rate, each card has their plusses and minuses, it's up to the buyer to decide. Just wanted to let ppl know there are other options that may suit their needs better. Better to buy some thing more expensive first (if it's what you need) than buying something cheap and then buying the more expensive one later.
ps: just incase you (or anyone else) are really clueless about hostap...
http://hostap.epitest.fi/
*edit2*
just to show I'm not biased against orinoco
/hkey/local machine/software/orinoco/driver/... APMODE=0
I'm assuming this provides similar functionality under windows, haven't seen it tested yet.
change 0 to 1

Ehhh....Lunix is dead. <jk! Put your guns away people!>

 

[Tal]

If I had the cash I would be jumping on this deal! Thanks for the info nhidog!!! -TAL

 

[Morph]

Thanks for the deal, just bought one yesterday. Hopefully I'll get a gold.

Recently there was a place called Alan Computech that was selling bulk Orinoco Gold cards for $49.99 but with shipping and CA tax it came out to $63 so I hesitated on that one. Since then it's disappeared from their site. Anyway, this is a much better deal.

 

[hmsrolst]

Got mine today. I already had an Orinoco-branded gold card with the software installed on my laptop. I plugged the HP one in its place and it lit right up and works perfectly--shows up as an Orinoco 5v card. This is an incredible deal!

 

[mcveigh]

Originally posted by: oniq
Any information whether this works in Linux or not?

yes my dell 1150 works in redhat 7.3 and 8.0 also a orinoco gold

 

[Fritzo]

I got mine a couple of days ago. It comes in a retail box and everything! Excellent deal. The fact that it can use generic Orinoco drivers is a BIG plus too....the Dell Truemobile I had required Dell's drivers Gonna ebbayy that card and get my money back .

EDIT: I posted my Dell card on EEKBay and someone bought it for the $57 I paid for it within an hour. I LOVE this country

 

[BUH]

I got mine a few days ago. I found out it was a Gold card, and it works great using 128RC4 encryption with my wireless SMC router from MicroCenter.com. I was able to test the range outside my townhouse. I'm in a row of around 6-8 townhouses with another row attached right to the back (back to back). I was able, with the router on my 2nd floor, to go around 300 feet straight out from the front of my townhouse with it barely dropping from the green status. Of course I will likely only be going down to my small outside patio and other rooms in my house.

Great find and a perfect match for my wireless SMC, which was also a deal I found here and is still going on. $99 - $40 rebate or something.


Thanks again nhidog!

-BUH

 

[Souka]

Orinoco Gold or Rebage are great wireless cards....excellent range, plus you can hook an external antenne to it.

Too bad it doesn't support Kerberos, or 154bit dynamic encryption.....but very few products do, and they tend to be pricey.


Great find!

 

[BUH]

How do you hook an external antenne to the card? I didn't see anywhere to do this.

-BUH

 

[Fritzo]

Originally posted by: BUH
How do you hook an external antenne to the card? I didn't see anywhere to do this.

-BUH

There's a small round rubber cover on the side of the card. Remove the cover and it'll expose an antenna outlet. You need an adapter cable from somewhere like Hyperlink.com, then you can attach an external antenna. I built an antenna out of a 1.22" piece of copper wire, an N panel connector, and a Dinty Moore soup can (I'm not kidding ). With the adapter cable, everything cost about $25. This effectively doubled my range from 300' to 600' with a standard access point. With my new setup I'm able to get a direct line of site connection from a good 1500' away.

 

[tchinhe]

Originally posted by: kissdisap
Does anyone know how to set up the WEP in Windows XP? I'm currently using an official Orinoco Silver card but when I try to setup the WEP with my Linksys router and try and plug the same info into the Wireless Network Properties in XP, my connection dies and I need to plug in my cable to undo everything. Can anyone help? TIA

Well I have the USB version but it did the same thing to me when I use it with the Dlink 711 so I ended up selling it on eday. Never know how to get it work right...... and did not have a laptop then so ..... did not bother.

 

[Spendthrift]

so which card is better, this one or the d-link dwl-650+ for $50. the d-link has 22mbps while this one does 11mbps. i know nothing about wireless and havent bought a wireless router yet. im mainly wanting one to hook up to wireless networks around the area (coffee shops and such). help?

 

[IgoByte]

So, it's a gold?

 

[rebuilder]

Thanks to original poster!
It's a gold and I'm happy!

 

[deeznuts]

damn, ready to order, but OOS.

 

[IgoByte]

Originally posted by: deeznuts
damn, ready to order, but OOS.

That makes two of us...