Organization threatens MS schools with lawsuit over football prayers

[her209]

http://www.kltv.com/story/19312476/...ms-schools-with-lawsuit-over-football-prayers

Since athiest students and students of other non-Christian faiths are required to be at the football games, this is a violation of their First Amendment rights. The SCOTUS has also ruled on the matter and that it is unconstitutional.

 

[1prophet]

http://www.kltv.com/story/19312476/...ms-schools-with-lawsuit-over-football-prayers

Since athiest students and students of other non-Christian faiths are required to be at the football games, this is a violation of their First Amendment rights. The SCOTUS has also ruled on the matter and that it is unconstitutional.

It is because they are public schools, nothing to do with being required to be at a football game.

Problem is some anti religious zealots don't know the first amendment isn't just to protect them from religion but also religion from them and try to force their beliefs on private institutions also and we end up with resulting blowback like the religious right.
http://www.wnd.com/2009/03/90942/

The Illinois High School Association is being challenged on a policy that bans Christian schools from offering a prayer or any religious message over their public address systems when they host association events on their own property.

“It is blatantly unconstitutional for public school officials to come into private schools and enforce a policy prohibiting them from expressing what’s central to their religious beliefs,” said David Cortman, senior legal counsel for the Alliance Defense Fund, or ADF.

http://www.recordonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060627/NEWS/306279999&cid=sitesearch

Skate Time 209 offers residents a new wooden roller skating rink and a fancy skateboard park. In its hunt for customers, the business has "tot" skates and "tween" (ages 613) skates. There are family nights and adult disco parties.
And there are "Christian skate times" on Sunday afternoons, Skate Time's ad in the April 19 Ulster County Press said. That ad is evidence of a human rights violation, according to the state Division of Human Rights.
A "Christian skate denies or at a minimum, discourages nonChristian patronage," a June 15 letter from the state division said. The weekly paper got the same letter, accusing it of "aiding and abetting" the violation, said its editoratlarge, Greg Childers.

 

[Incorruptible]

political correctness strikes again. This madness must stop

 

[MooseNSquirrel]

Being constitutional is political correctness?

Hrmmm.

 

[MovingTarget]

I don't know. Nobody is required to go to a football game. If a religious school wants do do a prayer on the PA system before a game, that is fine so long as it is a home game. The public school should just suck it up. If however, a religious school is playing on the home field of a public school, then yes I would see them not being allowed to pray publicly using the PA system.

 

[peonyu]

That is wrong but a Police officer being forced to go to a Mosque against his will is perfectly A'ok ?



http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2265492

"A Christian police officer is suing his department after being punished for refusing to go to a mosque for a mandatory cultural event. Paul Campbell Fields, a 17-year veteran, was docked two weeks' pay, transferred, reduced to the graveyard shift and made ineligible for promotions for at least a year, after he told his chief his faith made it impossible for him to attend a "Law Enforcement Appreciation Day" at the Islamic Cultural Society of Tulsa

Fields' attorney, Robert Muise of The American Freedom Law Center, elaborated, "He was going to be in a place where people were going to refer to Jesus Christ as merely a prophet and not his Lord and Savior,
"And he wouldn't be able to respond to them in any way," Muise added. "That was very troubling to him."



Will the double standards ever stop ?

 

[Incorruptible]

That is wrong but a Police officer being forced to go to a Mosque against his will is perfectly A'ok ?



http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2265492

"A Christian police officer is suing his department after being punished for refusing to go to a mosque for a mandatory cultural event. Paul Campbell Fields, a 17-year veteran, was docked two weeks' pay, transferred, reduced to the graveyard shift and made ineligible for promotions for at least a year, after he told his chief his faith made it impossible for him to attend a "Law Enforcement Appreciation Day" at the Islamic Cultural Society of Tulsa

Fields' attorney, Robert Muise of The American Freedom Law Center, elaborated, "He was going to be in a place where people were going to refer to Jesus Christ as merely a prophet and not his Lord and Savior,
"And he wouldn't be able to respond to them in any way," Muise added. "That was very troubling to him."



Will the double standards ever stop ?

Its the double standard against Christianity

 

[MooseNSquirrel]

That is wrong but a Police officer being forced to go to a Mosque against his will is perfectly A'ok ?



http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2265492

"A Christian police officer is suing his department after being punished for refusing to go to a mosque for a mandatory cultural event. Paul Campbell Fields, a 17-year veteran, was docked two weeks' pay, transferred, reduced to the graveyard shift and made ineligible for promotions for at least a year, after he told his chief his faith made it impossible for him to attend a "Law Enforcement Appreciation Day" at the Islamic Cultural Society of Tulsa

Fields' attorney, Robert Muise of The American Freedom Law Center, elaborated, "He was going to be in a place where people were going to refer to Jesus Christ as merely a prophet and not his Lord and Savior,
"And he wouldn't be able to respond to them in any way," Muise added. "That was very troubling to him."



Will the double standards ever stop ?

You are trying to use a false equivalence to make your argument.

 

[Cerb]

Its the double standard against Christianity

That's just because the Muslims haven't learned enough of our culture to get sue-happy over it. Give them some time to integrate, man!

 

[jackschmittusa]

MovingTarget

"I don't know. Nobody is required to go to a football game."

Sure, just:

opposing team members

game officials

venders/ticket takers/grounds crew/custodians/security personnel/parking attendants/medical staff/reporters

Did I miss anybody?

 

[Matt1970]

That is wrong but a Police officer being forced to go to a Mosque against his will is perfectly A'ok ?



http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2265492

"A Christian police officer is suing his department after being punished for refusing to go to a mosque for a mandatory cultural event. Paul Campbell Fields, a 17-year veteran, was docked two weeks' pay, transferred, reduced to the graveyard shift and made ineligible for promotions for at least a year, after he told his chief his faith made it impossible for him to attend a "Law Enforcement Appreciation Day" at the Islamic Cultural Society of Tulsa

Fields' attorney, Robert Muise of The American Freedom Law Center, elaborated, "He was going to be in a place where people were going to refer to Jesus Christ as merely a prophet and not his Lord and Savior,
"And he wouldn't be able to respond to them in any way," Muise added. "That was very troubling to him."



Will the double standards ever stop ?

I knew it was only a matter of time before the double standard would pop up but DAMN that was quick.

 

[shadow9d9]

Just christians continuing to force their religion on others.

This equates to having a police officer actually do his job? I didn't realize police officers get to choose their assignments...

Keep your religion to yourself.

Could you IMAGINE what kind of insane response the christians would have is a muslim prayer was over the intercom? They would go BALLISTIC!

 

[Incorruptible]

Just christians continuing to force their religion on others.

This equates to having a police officer actually do his job? I didn't realize police officers get to choose their assignments...

Keep your religion to yourself.

Could you IMAGINE what kind of insane response the christians would have is a muslim prayer was over the intercom? They would go BALLISTIC!

And nothing would be done about it because of political correctness and idiot left wingers defending them

 

[DCal430]

http://www.kltv.com/story/19312476/...ms-schools-with-lawsuit-over-football-prayers

Since athiest students and students of other non-Christian faiths are required to be at the football games, this is a violation of their First Amendment rights. The SCOTUS has also ruled on the matter and that it is unconstitutional.

From a technical standpoint it is a violation of the 14th Amendment. The 14th amendment makes it so schools can't violate the rights in 1st amendment.

 

[Incorruptible]

Just christians continuing to force their religion on others.

This equates to having a police officer actually do his job? I didn't realize police officers get to choose their assignments...

Keep your religion to yourself.

Could you IMAGINE what kind of insane response the christians would have is a muslim prayer was over the intercom? They would go BALLISTIC!

Love the double standards, if its a Christian you attack them but if its Muslims you defend them

 

[CrackRabbit]

Love the double standards, if its a Christian you attack them but if its Muslims you defend them

No, we hate idiots, that includes you, religion doesn't matter.

 

[Spungo]

This equates to having a police officer actually do his job? I didn't realize police officers get to choose their assignments...

That must be some nice rock you've been living under
Shooting in the black part of town? I don't feel like responding to that.

That would set an interesting legal presedent. Shooting in the mosque? I don't feel like responding because I'm Christian and I can't set foot in a place where Jesus is not the lord and savior.
It's even better if you're an atheist. Don't need to respond to crimes that happen in ANY place of worship because you disagree with all of them.

 

[Pens1566]

Love the double standards, if its a Christian you attack them but if its Muslims you defend them

Nope. I don't care what religion this is in reference to. They'd all be the same response. No place at a public school event. Take your strawman and shove it.