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Organic Water, the next big thing?

Schadenfroh

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http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2011/07/13/137796144/organic-water-a-new-marketing-wave?ps=sh_sthdl

Disregard the fact that water is not an organic compound for a moment...

A serious guy named Eric Ewell eagerly offered us a taste, "Try this pristine organic water." We choked back a giggle. Organic? Really?


As the company's website says, "Illanllyr ... comes from our sources beneath certified organic fields in west Wales in the UK." So, Ewell says, the water has never been tainted with chemicals, making it organic as it as it emerges from the ground.

OK, so the soil above the water source is organic. We get that. But the water itself, organic?

Imagine a glass of organic water, from the ground beneath a manure laced organic field. This will go perfectly with the locally grown, organic produce.
 
I wonder what's more concerning. The chance that their water comes from underneath non-organic fields, or that the water is sitting in a stagnant underground pool underneath their organic fields.
 
You do realize that Celiac Disease is a real disorder, right?

Yes, I feel sorry for those impacted by that disorder. The problem is that an increasing number of Americans, that do not have it, are starting to believe that they have a sensitivity to wheat protein, which, at least around here, is being marketed (by healthfood stores) as a vile, dangerous foodstuff that should be avoided at all cost (even by those tolerant to gluten), similar to how they portray MSG.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/08/health/08glut.html
She is among a growing number of Americans who believe that gluten — a protein found in wheat, barley and rye — is responsible for a variety of ills, from skin eruptions to infertility to anxiety to gas. Though diagnostic tests have not indicated she has an allergy or sensitivity to gluten, she nonetheless says she is better off without it.

“I struggle with sticking to a gluten-free diet,” she said, “but when I do, I feel much better.”

There is no question that eating gluten aggravates celiac disease, an autoimmune disorder that damages the small intestine and interferes with absorption of nutrients. But doctors say it is unclear whether gluten can be blamed for other problems.

“A lot of alternative practitioners like chiropractors have picked up on it and are waving around magic silver balls, crystals and such, telling people they have gluten intolerance,” said Dr. Don W. Powell, a gastroenterologist at the University of Texas Medical Branch at Galveston.

Dr. Joseph A. Murray, a gastroenterologist at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minn., who specializes in diagnosing and treating celiac disease, says such advice may be misguided. “There’s this ‘go blame gluten’ thing going on,” he said. “It’s difficult to sort out science from the belief.”

I have removed those references from the OP as to not derail the thread any further.
 
Yes, I feel sorry for those impacted by that disorder. The problem is that an increasing number of Americans, that do not have it, are starting to believe that they have a sensitivity to wheat protein, which, at least around here, is being marketed (by healthfood stores) as a vile, dangerous foodstuff that should be avoided at all cost (even by those tolerant to gluten), similar to how they portray MSG.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/08/health/08glut.html


I have removed those references from the OP as to not derail the thread any further.

You probably are better off without it. Its processed heavily before becoming "edible" anything processed heavily should be avoided. Wheat wasn't even heavy part of the human diet at all until relatively recently. Most tribal peoples don't consume wheat to this day.
 
I have removed those references from the OP as to not derail the thread any further.

Thanks. I wasn't intending to derail the thread so let's put this back on topic, shall we? 🙂

I do think the notion of 'organic water' is hogwash. How can this guy prove that no one, in the history of these fields, has ever dumped a chemical there that may have seeped through to the water and then been reabsorbed by the surrounding soil? It's impossible. Even if he was able to prove this how does it make the water any more pure than, say, distilled water? It seems like this guy has no understanding of even basic chemistry OR he's trying to market it to folks who lack that understanding.

Also, he's probably wasting a ton of energy extracting the water and bottling it. Then there's the whole issue of the waste generated by the bottles that would pretty much offset the whole benefit of 'organic' water.

In summation: Eric Ewell. Boo that man.

edit -

From the article:
"Marketing water this way doesn't make it look special," Fishman says. "Let's go with cosmic water — it all came from space in the first place — how about selling it that way," Fishman quips.

That's a good one, too.
 
But what about the effects of homeopathy? :awe: Our water supply is heavily diluted with all kinds of stuff: Mercury, DDT, dinosaur semen, Donald Trump's skin cells, and all kinds of other things. What's the collective effect of all that?
 
But what about the effects of homeopathy? :awe: Our water supply is heavily diluted with all kinds of stuff: Mercury, DDT, dinosaur semen, Donald Trump's skin cells, and all kinds of other things. What's the collective effect of all that?

You silly bear, we have been vaccinated against Mercury.


😉

Better start the chelation therapy if you do not drink organic water.
 
I am not familiar with laws in England, but when it comes to the USA, those that market something on supposed health benefits are required to demonstrate some proof their claim has any basis in fact.

But its a US governmental responsibility and the enforcement is selective. Some companies get dope slapped and other get away with it.
 
I am not familiar with laws in England, but when it comes to the USA, those that market something on supposed health benefits are required to demonstrate some proof their claim has any basis in fact.

They usually just call it a supplement and state on the packaging (in small print) that the benefits have not been evaluated by the FDA.
 
I do think the notion of 'organic water' is hogwash. How can this guy prove that no one, in the history of these fields, has ever dumped a chemical there that may have seeped through to the water and then been reabsorbed by the surrounding soil? It's impossible.

I don't think such has to be proven in order to get the "organic" label; at least in the U.S. You merely have to go 3 or 5 years or something without using non-organic materials on the land.
 
Like I've said all along, the whole organic crap is just a marketing ploy to get you to pay more for food. Principle applies here as well. They've conditioned people to be scared of the food they eat. It's brilliant really, but it's still snake oil.
 
Like I've said all along, the whole organic crap is just a marketing ploy to get you to pay more for food. Principle applies here as well. They've conditioned people to be scared of the food they eat. It's brilliant really, but it's still snake oil.

This. Same with the genetically modified foods. Nearly every food you eat has been genetically modified in some way. Humans have been doing it for thousands of years via selective breeding and grafting. Gee, let's improve a plant's hardiness so poor people don't starve. Herassy!

Organic water goes hand in hand with the raw milk debate. The reason we treat it via pasteurization or chemicals is so you don't die after drinking it. 😛
 
lol companies like to just stick organic on random stuff to make it sound better.

it's freaking water!

One thing that makes me laugh is "organic fruit" What, as opposed to the plastic ones you get for decoration? lol
 
The term organic when used in reference to farming has nothing to do with the term organic when used in chemistry. It's the same situation as people saying evolution is "just a theory," when the scientific definition of the term is different from the colloquial meaning. So, yes, although water and salt are not organic compounds from a scientific standpoint, they could be harvested according to the principles of organic farming and be sold as "organic."

That said, organic farming is pretty ridiculous, and anyone who buys "organic water" is an idiot.
 
There is a grocery store near my apartment that sells organic foods. One of the food items; dried apricots. Bright orange dried apricots.

They clearly contain sulfur dioxide. Yet, they are being sold as an organic food.

This whole organic business is bullshit. It may have been legit when it 1st launched and producers really did keep their foods free of all crap. But now, it's been industrialized. And, shams like this are cropping up everywhere.
 
One thing that makes me laugh is "organic fruit" What, as opposed to the plastic ones you get for decoration? lol

Close.

As opposed to the ones soaked in pesticides, grown in soil that is loaded with more pesticides, pumped with chemicals made to be larger/jucier and then polished with wax and oils to look shiny.
 
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