Oregon one step closer to self-service gas

[Vic]

Originally posted by: KevinH

Originally posted by: RossMAN
WTF this is an outrage.

I don't wanna have to pump my own gas!

Bah! When I took my road trip to Seattle/Vancouver I was in for one helluva shock when I HAD to have my gas serviced in Oregon. I don't know what the protocol is but I tipped everytime through that state 15%. Jeez...heaven forbid that I stick the pump in myself...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! LMFAO!! 🙂 😀 😛 😀 😀 😛 🙂

You tipped? Man, you're not supposed to tip at all.... goddamn, funniest thing I've read in a long time... 🙂

Why does Oregon require "mini-serve" gas? Simple, it's part of both our environmental laws and to assist the handicapped who can't get out to pour their own gas. Which is why bills like this one always fail. Everytime the lawmakers try to bring back self-serve, the gas station owners always admit that they will either do away with full-serve entirely or they will take on something like 20¢ per gallon as a full-service surcharge. This discriminates against the handicapped, so it never passes.
Personally, I enjoy having my gas pumped for me. Why do people want to get out in the cold and rain to pump their own gas? Yeah, they don't exactly employ the brightest folks to do the pumping, but I've never had any real issues, and I'm not a gutless turd, so I know how to complain in the face of poor service if necessary.
As for gas prices going down, they won't. Some idiots in the Portland area cross the river to Vancouver, WA and think that the difference between the prices is because of full-serve. Not al all. WA state has much lower gas taxes because they pay for their roads in ridiculously high (compared to Oregon's ridiculously low) vehicle excise and license tag fees. Oregon's roads, OTOH, are paid for almost entirely by the gas tax.
btw, as for Oregon's tax burden in general, it's too high. And just because some of you fools legislated yourselves with higher tax burdens does mean that it is incumbent on us to follow your stupidity and do the same.

 

[BigSmooth]

Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis
Can anyone explain why there is a LAW that requires that all gas stations in Oregon have an attendant?

The main reason it is still in effect is because it creates jobs.

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: RossMAN

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: RossMAN
WTF this is an outrage.

I don't wanna have to pump my own gas!

Gas prices will go down. You won't be paying some idiot's wages.

I don't care.

I want mandatory full service gas throughout all of Oregon.

And I want everyone in the U.S. to be legal citizens, but that's never going to happen. Sometimes we can't all have what we want, Ross.

So are you proposing that illegal aliens be recognized as Americans?

 

[Ornery]

Can anyone explain why there is a LAW that requires that all gas stations in Oregon have an attendant?

All states used to have full serve at one time. My guess why is for safety concerns. One by one, they allowed people to pump their own. It's not the law in Oregon and NJ that you MUST have full serve, it's AGAINST the law to pump your own.

We have the choice of full or self serve, yet even my wife chooses to pump it herself. From my experience, it's quicker and saves my car from being scratched and have fuel spilled on it. I can swipe the card*, fill it, and collect my receipt quicker than Goober would get around to my car. CHOICE is good!


* Yeah, we can swipe our own CCs here right at the pump. Another hassle, eh?

 

[Wingznut]

Yep, they swipe my card at the pump as well...

Again, I'm not sure where you guys are getting your gas from. I've never had my car scratched or gas spilled on it. Nor do I ever have to wait for some "goober." More often than not, there's a guy at my window before I even shut the car off.

 

[RossMAN]

I've also never had my car scratched, cap lost or 1/2 gallon spilled.

 

[Double Trouble]

The question is not whether there is anything wrong with having someone pump the gas for you -- that's up to you. What I think is rediculous is that the state (OR or NJ) actually MANDATES that someone has to pump the gas for you. What the hell business is it of theirs if I want to pump the gas in my car? It's like the state deciding tomorrow that you no longer be allowed to wash your own car, that you be forced by law to have it done by a state-approved car wash :|

It's simple: leave it up to the people to decide. Want to do it yourself? Do it yourself. Want to have the convenience of having someone do it for you? Go to a gas station that offers that service. As usual, a free market will handle it just fine without some stupid interference from politicians.

 

[flxnimprtmscl]

Originally posted by: RossMAN
Ok I must be the only lazy Oregonian ... sad

Make that two of us. I mean, who the hell want's to get out and pump their own gas in pouring rain. Not I.... I hope this fails miserably.

 

[RossMAN]

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl

Originally posted by: RossMAN
Ok I must be the only lazy Oregonian ... sad

Make that two of us. I mean, who the hell want's to get out and pump their own gas in pouring rain. Not I.... I hope this fails miserably.

Likewise.

 

[A5]

Hey guys...it's not hard to pump gas in the rain...this nifty invention called a ROOF makes sure you stay nice and dry.

 

[flxnimprtmscl]

Originally posted by: A5
Hey guys...it's not hard to pump gas in the rain...this nifty invention called a ROOF makes sure you stay nice and dry.

There's also this bad thing called "wind". Which sometimes blows rain under the "roof" which is usually about 15 feet high and only wide enough to cover the islands. So that "roof" is pretty much worthless.

 

[A5]

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl

Originally posted by: A5
Hey guys...it's not hard to pump gas in the rain...this nifty invention called a ROOF makes sure you stay nice and dry.

There's also this bad thing called "wind". Which sometimes blows rain under the "roof" which is usually about 15 feet high and only wide enough to cover the islands. So that "roof" is pretty much worthless.

You guys must have some pretty ghetto gas stations then. Guess it's cheaper to give Pedro a poncho than to build a real roof.

 

[aphex]

I had a friend who came down to visit me here in Florida from NJ....

His sorry ass tried to pump diesel into the rental cavalier....

Im sorry, but i have no pitty for you lazy asses.. Get out of your car and pump it your damn self!

 

[RossGr]

One more lazy Oregonian, make that 2 if I could count my wife!


I have had gas spilled, I did it,when I was on a cross country trip and was trying to figure out self service! And I did lose a gas cap, again on a cross country trip, I did it myself.

We are getting ready to head to CA for our annual road trip, I know that gas prices will jump .10 - .20 As soon as I cross the Ca border, insult to injury I have to pump it myself.

I have always believed that the rational behind the Oregon law was to ensure proper trainging for "safe" gas handling.

 

[Zugzwang152]

self-serve = cheaper gas. nuff said.

 

[Ornery]

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl

Originally posted by: RossMAN
Ok I must be the only lazy Oregonian ... sad

Make that two of us. I mean, who the hell want's to get out and pump their own gas in pouring rain. Not I.... I hope this fails miserably.

What's wrong with having the choice? 48 other states prefer it!

 

[flxnimprtmscl]

Originally posted by: Ornery

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl

Originally posted by: RossMAN
Ok I must be the only lazy Oregonian ... sad

Make that two of us. I mean, who the hell want's to get out and pump their own gas in pouring rain. Not I.... I hope this fails miserably.

What's wrong with having the choice? 48 other states prefer it!

48 other states also have sales tax. Do you prefer yours? I know I'm perfectly fine not having one 😀 Confusing what's common with what's prefered doesn't really work.

 

[Ornery]

You conveniently forgot to answer what's so bad about having the choice, which IS the main point of this!

 

[alphatarget1]

i drove to oregon 3 or 4 months ago and i was very pleased with the full service gas. it's cheaper than california too 😀

 

[Carrot44]

WA has one of the highest cig taxes in the nation but as for tag taxes they are no more.
The voters voted it out in 1999. We now pay about 33 to renew our state tags.

WA state has much lower gas taxes because they pay for their roads in ridiculously high (compared to Oregon's ridiculously low) vehicle excise and license tag fees.

Ken

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Hey you whiners, here's an idea: DON'T BUY GAS WHEN IT'S RAINING. My God, you act like it rains 365 days out of there year.

 

[ynot167]

I guess NJ will be the only state to have NO SELF SERVICE

 

[thawolfman]

Too lazy to pump your own gas? 😛

 

[LeeTJ]

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
Hey you whiners, here's an idea: DON'T BUY GAS WHEN IT'S RAINING. My God, you act like it rains 365 days out of there year.

did you forget WHICH state you were talking about??

Oregon rains 9 months out of the year. consecutive months.

 

[Wingznut]

Originally posted by: Zugzwang152
self-serve = cheaper gas. nuff said.

I challenge you to prove it. I don't believe there's any truth to that statement whatsoever. And actually, check out LeeTJ's post above... "how do you say PREMIUM. I live in NJ. gas here is cheaper than ALL the neighboring states, so how can you conclude that having Full Service has made the gas more epensive?"

And if you believe that a lower overhead automatically equates to lower prices to the consumer, then I suggest you take an economics class.


For those who say that they want the "choice"... If OR were to allow self-serve, there would be no "choice" then, either. EVERY gas station would go self-serve, firing hundreds (thousands?) of employees around the state. Sure, you'd have the "choice" to pay significantly higher for full serve, but that's not really a "choice."

Since when have you guys been in favor of the government causing jobs to be lost? I thought the goal was to actually lower unemployment?