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SlitheryDee

Lifer
Feb 2, 2005
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This is why I have amazon prime. $80 a year and all this postal bullshit is a distant memory.
 

SlitheryDee

Lifer
Feb 2, 2005
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But then I'd have to pay taxes, an increased price on the drive, and $40 or $80 a year. (Student discount)

It's worth it to me to avoid what you're going through. I do shop around when I'm hunting for pc components, but if amazon has what I want and it's even in the same ballpark as the cheapest one I find on another site, amazon gets the nod.
 

TridenT

Lifer
Sep 4, 2006
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GOT IT

Fuck USPS. Go to hell. I'm never using them again for receiving shit.
 

TridenT

Lifer
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Yea but to bad its a bad unit.

Works so far... Although MSI bios/uefi is questionable. I kept trying to install windows from a USB key and it would not do it. And then once it did, it complained about not being able to install on the SSD. (It might have mentioned boot order) I changed the boot order a bit and then it all started working...

Of course, I tried to put a different fucking ISO of Windows 7 on the USB Key that was outdated... so now I have to do over a year of updates. (The ISO I had that was updated to Sept 2013 was on my hard drive that was already in the comp;blahblahblah,can'tgetnosatisfaction)

ANYWAY, Windows is running. Installed drivers. Now, I'm trying to download Crysis 3 and get that running. 14.57gb; the fuck!?
 

mnewsham

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Oct 2, 2010
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Works so far... Although MSI bios/uefi is questionable. I kept trying to install windows from a USB key and it would not do it. And then once it did, it complained about not being able to install on the SSD. (It might have mentioned boot order) I changed the boot order a bit and then it all started working...

Of course, I tried to put a different fucking ISO of Windows 7 on the USB Key that was outdated... so now I have to do over a year of updates. (The ISO I had that was updated to Sept 2013 was on my hard drive that was already in the comp;blahblahblah,can'tgetnosatisfaction)

ANYWAY, Windows is running. Installed drivers. Now, I'm trying to download Crysis 3 and get that running. 14.57gb; the fuck!?

Enjoy the new PC, I need to upgrade at some point.
 

Red Squirrel

No Lifer
May 24, 2003
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For my next PC I'm probably going with a Dell. So sick and tired of trying to troubleshoot why it's not working right. Been dealing with issue after issue since I built this POS. It cost me over a grand to build which is more than a typical pre built and I probably threw another grand at it trying to get it to work right. Just not worth it. At one point it was cheaper to build, but now everything is so expensive. Motherboard and cpu alone usually is close to a grand.
 

T9D

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Dec 1, 2001
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That's funny I just built my PC on Tuesday the 1st too. All the parts came in that day and I had it all built that night. I had originally had it all pieced out on newegg. But I checked Amazon and got all the same parts for about the same price except I got all free two day shipping with prime. I knew amazon would probably send it out faster too. I love my new PC. I can play games again on high settings.
 

T9D

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For my next PC I'm probably going with a Dell. So sick and tired of trying to troubleshoot why it's not working right. Been dealing with issue after issue since I built this POS. It cost me over a grand to build which is more than a typical pre built and I probably threw another grand at it trying to get it to work right. Just not worth it. At one point it was cheaper to build, but now everything is so expensive. Motherboard and cpu alone usually is close to a grand.

That sucks man. I think I've built 4 or 5 PC's. Never once had a problem. My very first prebuilt dell however was riddled with problems. I'd never ever go back to prebuilt. Their are always some parts that are so super cheap and crappy.

My brother seemed to always have problems though. He used to have his friend build them who is a very smart guy. However my bro gave me his old PC and when I started going through it I kept finding all kinds of things wrong. For one he didn't put the ram timings to the higher timing it's supposed to be at in the bios. He also didn't set the CPU speed right, and didn't even unlock 2 of the cores on the quad core CPU. My brother always thought he had a dual core but it was a quad core lol. I think some other things too. After I was done with it that thing was way faster, he probably didn't even need to get a new one! I built him a new one though and it's been working perfect for him.

What I've found though is that some of the biggest problems come from buying the very very brand new top of the line parts. They are usually pushed so hard, drivers immature, and bugs in the building process that need to ironed out later. Buying the more mainstream parts can cut out some troubleshooting. Or just people (like my brothers smart friend) can just screw things up they had no idea they even needed to do.
 

rudeguy

Lifer
Dec 27, 2001
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That's funny I just built my PC on Tuesday the 1st too. All the parts came in that day and I had it all built that night. I had originally had it all pieced out on newegg. But I checked Amazon and got all the same parts for about the same price except I got all free two day shipping with prime. I knew amazon would probably send it out faster too. I love my new PC. I can play games again on high settings.

What GPU?

I'm building lil rudeguy a new rig and still don't know what to get.
 

T9D

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Dec 1, 2001
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What GPU?

I'm building lil rudeguy a new rig and still don't know what to get.

Well I got a gtx 760 oc. It was $250. I hear they are going to lower the price this week or something too. The reason I didn't get a Radeon even though some say it's a little faster is because all the customer reviews were saying that the card fans were a lot louder and it runs hotter and it was about an inch longer (although paying more can alleviate some of that, but I didn't want to pay more than that). I put it in a micro ATX case and I really needed it to run cooler and wasn't sure how long it was, and really like a quiet case. I love this form factor, the case size is so awesome. And still plenty of room for everything I need. I had room for a sound blaster zxr too.
 

Red Squirrel

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May 24, 2003
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That sucks man. I think I've built 4 or 5 PC's. Never once had a problem. My very first prebuilt dell however was riddled with problems. I'd never ever go back to prebuilt. Their are always some parts that are so super cheap and crappy.

My brother seemed to always have problems though. He used to have his friend build them who is a very smart guy. However my bro gave me his old PC and when I started going through it I kept finding all kinds of things wrong. For one he didn't put the ram timings to the higher timing it's supposed to be at in the bios. He also didn't set the CPU speed right, and didn't even unlock 2 of the cores on the quad core CPU. My brother always thought he had a dual core but it was a quad core lol. I think some other things too. After I was done with it that thing was way faster, he probably didn't even need to get a new one! I built him a new one though and it's been working perfect for him.

What I've found though is that some of the biggest problems come from buying the very very brand new top of the line parts. They are usually pushed so hard, drivers immature, and bugs in the building process that need to ironed out later. Buying the more mainstream parts can cut out some troubleshooting. Or just people (like my brothers smart friend) can just screw things up they had no idea they even needed to do.

Yeah I seem to just have really really bad luck. I end up with some part that's DOA but not quite DOA enough for it to plain not work, and the problems I have are always so eratic it's impossible to troubleshoot as they don't happen often enough.

Also, since when do you have to set ram timings and cpu speed manually? I never had to do that before? Wonder if that's where all my issues come from. I just put the parts together, turn it on, and install the OS.
 

ch33zw1z

Lifer
Nov 4, 2004
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Also, since when do you have to set ram timings and cpu speed manually? I never had to do that before? Wonder if that's where all my issues come from. I just put the parts together, turn it on, and install the OS.

o_O

This all depends on your hardware. All of my "performance" RAM has required manual timings and voltages. Setting the CPU FSB is typically some I do as well because of the manual RAM settings.
 

Kadarin

Lifer
Nov 23, 2001
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I remember being like this when I was a kid.......WHEN I WAS A KID.

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Red Squirrel

No Lifer
May 24, 2003
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o_O

This all depends on your hardware. All of my "performance" RAM has required manual timings and voltages. Setting the CPU FSB is typically some I do as well because of the manual RAM settings.

Honestly news to me, and all of the systems I built that DID run well I never had to set anything either. Where would I find instructions on this?
 

T9D

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Dec 1, 2001
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Honestly news to me, and all of the systems I built that DID run well I never had to set anything either. Where would I find instructions on this?

Most motherboards are set to 1333 ram speeds I think. So if you got the 1600 speed ram you need to set it manually.

Oh that reminded me too that I had to set the voltage because he set it to low. Usually you shouldn't have to mess that though, but like I say some of the top end stuff at the time is so much faster that there can be things that are not standard that need to be set. So when he'd max out with ram it would go black or lock up and shut down. It plagued him the entire time he had the PC. I did a voltage change on the ram and it fixed the problem. It was set to low.

But yeah anyway sometimes weird things can come up. Most things are in the bios that can cause compatibility problems. Start poking around with the bios. Sometimes disabling things such as onboard sound when you have a soundcard or disabling onboard graphics when you have a graphics card can fix simple problems.
 
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ch33zw1z

Lifer
Nov 4, 2004
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Honestly news to me, and all of the systems I built that DID run well I never had to set anything either. Where would I find instructions on this?

look up what the RAM specs are, look in motherboard BIOS/uEFI options.

I don't do this on ALL my systems, jsut the ones that needed it. regular old RAM, pop them in and let the board auto configure.
 

rudeguy

Lifer
Dec 27, 2001
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look up what the RAM specs are, look in motherboard BIOS/uEFI options.

I don't do this on ALL my systems, jsut the ones that needed it. regular old RAM, pop them in and let the board auto configure.

Yep. If it works you are good. If not its time to tinker.

I swear the nicer stuff I buy, the more I have to dick with it. Its part of the reason I'm starting this new build almost 3 months before it needs to be ready.