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I've thought about it, but I don't feel like I'd run into any where I'm located. Maybe a bit naive, and times have changed, but I used to run an android program on a rooted phone, and never got a hit in my usual travels.

That doesn't cover protests though, and you should *really* leave your phone at home. If you must have a phone, I'd recommend a burner, or old android without a sim card, and communicate through wifi. Encrypted of course. Never know who's wifi you'll run into.
 
brycejones said:
Get ready for absolutely horrific scandles in the future about how hundreds of thousands of homeless people were abused by state governments and didn’t really get the help they needed. The good people of Utah appear to be kicking off building the concentration camps.


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And who is going to pay for it?

Tariffs from other countries?

Mexico?

Divert money from FEMA?

If my state takes money out of its budget to make one of those I will move to a state that doesn’t do that
 
outriding said:
And who is going to pay for it?

Tariffs from other countries?

Mexico?

Divert money from FEMA?
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death to usaid but in truth this isn't govt money it is money that would go into other investments so in a sense everyone pays a little but in truth you won't feel it given the relative small amount to the total level of investment. Having said that i hope somehow trump and trump's family pays dearly for this illegal gains. He will of course pardon everyone for this corruption but hopefully there is some other means. If we are lucky he will have a heart attack tonight and spend enternal forever in hell or better a very painful comma.
 
fskimospy said:
You can’t - that would be approximately $58k per year, which, after taxes, would be basically their entire income.
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Exactly. Somehow, people keep missing that Republicans aren’t actually trying to force regular Joes in Morgantown to pay more for Obamacare. They’re trying to push these people off of Obamacare (and health insurance in general) so that ultimately it fails. This is them finally fulfilling their promise of killing Obamacare by ensuring there aren’t enough healthy people paying premiums.
 
UNCjigga said:
Exactly. Somehow, people keep missing that Republicans aren’t actually trying to force regular Joes in Morgantown to pay more for Obamacare. They’re trying to push these people off of Obamacare (and health insurance in general) so that ultimately it fails. This is them finally fulfilling their promise of killing Obamacare by ensuring there aren’t enough healthy people paying premiums.
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That's why they keep bringing up the idea of bringing back "high risk pools". Basically force everyone with any sort of pre-existing condition into an extremely expensive, bound-to-fail pool, just like the pre-ACA days.
 
Fenixgoon said:
Probably cheaper to go without insurance and just negotiate with the healthcare provider
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That’s why rates are going up because insurance companies figure people will opt out of insurance. It’s a snowball effect. The whole system could collapse and maybe then we’ll get our universal health care system.
 
ivwshane said:
That’s why rates are going up because insurance companies figure people will opt out of insurance. It’s a snowball effect. The whole system could collapse and maybe then we’ll get our universal health care system.
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Healthcare providers have also consolidated in local markets over the last decade or more, which give them tremendous bargaining power over insurance companies. And because Medicaid and Medicare reimbursement rates are relatively (or absurdly) low, private insurers are having to pick up the slack in the system.
 
Brainonska511 said:
Healthcare providers have also consolidated in local markets over the last decade or more, which give them tremendous bargaining power over insurance companies. And because Medicaid and Medicare reimbursement rates are relatively (or absurdly) low, private insurers are having to pick up the slack in the system.
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I never got this idea that private insurance has to 'pick up the slack' for Medicare/Medicaid. There is no requirement for providers to accept Medicare or Medicaid so why would they do it if they aren't profitable? The obvious answer is they wouldn't.
 
fskimospy said:
I never got this idea that private insurance has to 'pick up the slack' for Medicare/Medicaid. There is no requirement for providers to accept Medicare or Medicaid so why would they do it if they aren't profitable? The obvious answer is they wouldn't.
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Private insurers aren't willingly picking it up. They don't really have a choice because there isn't much provider competition in local markets, so they have to have higher reimbursement rates.
 
Brainonska511 said:
Private insurers aren't willingly picking it up. They don't really have a choice because there isn't much provider competition in local markets, so they have to have higher reimbursement rates.
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I'm not saying private insurers are willingly picking it up, I'm saying that health care PROVIDERS don't have to take Medicare or Medicaid if they aren't making money on it, they choose to take it because it is more profitable for them to do so.
 
fskimospy said:
I'm not saying private insurers are willingly picking it up, I'm saying that health care PROVIDERS don't have to take Medicare or Medicaid if they aren't making money on it, they choose to take it because it is more profitable for them to do so.
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Providers take Medicare and Medicaid because they make money on volume, and if volume is high enough, they even get bonus reimbursement. But when the volume is not high enough, hospitals close down departments. Tufts University did this with their Children's hospital - the volume wasn't high enough to get bonus Medicaid rates, so they closed the unit because it was not making enough money.

They can also protect their community good will by accepting Medicare and Medicaid, and pass on higher costs to private payers, who have far less negotiating power.
 
Brainonska511 said:
Providers take Medicare and Medicaid because they make money on volume, and if volume is high enough, they even get bonus reimbursement. But when the volume is not high enough, hospitals close down departments. Tufts University did this with their Children's hospital - the volume wasn't high enough to get bonus Medicaid rates, so they closed the unit because it was not making enough money.

They can also protect their community good will by accepting Medicare and Medicaid, and pass on higher costs to private payers, who have far less negotiating power.
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Right, this is my point. They accept Medicare and Medicaid because it is profitable for them to do so. Private insurance is not making up for Medicare/medicaid losses.
 
Brainonska511 said:
Providers take Medicare and Medicaid because they make money on volume, and if volume is high enough, they even get bonus reimbursement. But when the volume is not high enough, hospitals close down departments. Tufts University did this with their Children's hospital - the volume wasn't high enough to get bonus Medicaid rates, so they closed the unit because it was not making enough money.

They can also protect their community good will by accepting Medicare and Medicaid, and pass on higher costs to private payers, who have far less negotiating power.
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It's also important to distinguish between "not profitable at all" and "not profitable enough"

The former loses money. The latter is still profitable, just not as much as someone would like it to be.
 
So Dotard is about to indirectly run the greatest mathematician in the world out of the US.


This would be an unbelievable loss for the nation. Ugh I had the fortune to take a class from Prof Tao years ago and not only is he the greatest research mathematician in the world, but he's also an incredible teacher and someone who really inspires his students to learn more with the interesting questions and sidenotes he'd sprinkle into lectures that made going to his class worth it while so many others I found little value in attending when I could just read the book for 30 minutes instead of spending an hour in the classroom.
 
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