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QueBert

Lifer
Jan 6, 2002
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This was posted by a MAGAt, making it's somewhat Diaper Don related. So I admit I had to Google palatial after seeing mansion. lol

"resembling a palace in being spacious and splendid."

When I saw the picture of the house and read the title I thought this had to be a post mocking the idiot MAGAs, but nope this person was dead ass serious. So that's far from a shack, but a palace? LOL. Some of the replies did correct them, but a lot agreed and said AOC had a rich, privileged life growing up. While that house is probably bigger than the one I grew up in. You'd have to be homeless to think that's a mansion. I guess middle class is considered he life of luxury when it's the right hating on the left. And this means I might have grown up in a palatial mansion and never even knew it.

For reference, they ended by saying the house is worth $500k trying to prove a point I guessa. That's in NY which is expensive, in So Cal the house across the street from me sold last year for $780k, and it's much smaller than this one.




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pmv

Lifer
May 30, 2008
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Don't know what emoji reaction is appropriate ^^^^

Quite a disjuncture between the lead-up reading the text and then seeing the picture. That's a pretty modest dwelling by most people's standards. I can't make any sense of that embedded post. It would surely make any sense only if you imagined that there's a binary division between WASPy types and everyone even-slightly 'ethnic minority' - with the latter _all_ living in horrendous slum-like Housing Projects.
 

trenchfoot

Lifer
Aug 5, 2000
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This was posted by a MAGAt, making it's somewhat Diaper Don related. So I admit I had to Google palatial after seeing mansion. lol

"resembling a palace in being spacious and splendid."

When I saw the picture of the house and read the title I thought this had to be a post mocking the idiot MAGAs, but nope this person was dead ass serious. So that's far from a shack, but a palace? LOL. Some of the replies did correct them, but a lot agreed and said AOC had a rich, privileged life growing up. While that house is probably bigger than the one I grew up in. You'd have to be homeless to think that's a mansion. I guess middle class is considered he life of luxury when it's the right hating on the left. And this means I might have grown up in a palatial mansion and never even knew it.

For reference, they ended by saying the house is worth $500k trying to prove a point I guessa. That's in NY which is expensive, in So Cal the house across the street from me sold last year for $780k, and it's much smaller than this one.




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If that's a palatial mansion, I wonder what Szypula thinks Donald Trump lives in. He sure does think like Trump and his lackeys where the term "obliterated" means "some damage occurred" and where "Trump should be awarded the Nobel peace Prize" for something he didn't do.
 

MrSquished

Lifer
Jan 14, 2013
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Conservative fed judges have issued these kinds of injunctions for years without a peep from the court. Judges issuing injunctions against Trump policies is apparently suddenly a problem.

This court has to be dealt with.
First things first. You need a real opposition party for that to even be potentially possible.
 
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ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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This was posted by a MAGAt, making it's somewhat Diaper Don related. So I admit I had to Google palatial after seeing mansion. lol

"resembling a palace in being spacious and splendid."

When I saw the picture of the house and read the title I thought this had to be a post mocking the idiot MAGAs, but nope this person was dead ass serious. So that's far from a shack, but a palace? LOL. Some of the replies did correct them, but a lot agreed and said AOC had a rich, privileged life growing up. While that house is probably bigger than the one I grew up in. You'd have to be homeless to think that's a mansion. I guess middle class is considered he life of luxury when it's the right hating on the left. And this means I might have grown up in a palatial mansion and never even knew it.

For reference, they ended by saying the house is worth $500k trying to prove a point I guessa. That's in NY which is expensive, in So Cal the house across the street from me sold last year for $780k, and it's much smaller than this one.




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I assume that’s where her butlers and the other help stay? Is the palace behind that?
 

you2

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Apr 2, 2002
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Don't know what emoji reaction is appropriate ^^^^

Quite a disjuncture between the lead-up reading the text and then seeing the picture. That's a pretty modest dwelling by most people's standards. I can't make any sense of that embedded post. It would surely make any sense only if you imagined that there's a binary division between WASPy types and everyone even-slightly 'ethnic minority' - with the latter _all_ living in horrendous slum-like Housing Projects.
Passage of time; the land these days is worth a lot but when AOC was growing up 25 or so years ago the house was probably worth ~150,00 to 200,00 dollars. Not peanuts but certainly not mega rich either. You have to remember you are dealing with uneducated idiots. Hey remember when Jordan may a big deal about a democrat making $5000 ignoring Trumps making 100,000 millions of dollars ?
 
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You have to remember you are dealing with uneducated idiots. Hey remember when Jordan may a big deal about a democrat making $5000 ignoring Trumps making 100,000 millions of dollars ?
I hope you have not seen the vomit inducing JD Vance ad on how much of a saint he is with his limited income. The idea seems to be that he makes so little that he has no choice but to dress awful and MAGAts probably orgasm at the thought of his virtuousness.
 

UNCjigga

Lifer
Dec 12, 2000
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“A systematic destruction of science”.

This story is flying under the radar right now—even the Guardian missed a key piece of reporting in this story.

Sudden loss of key US satellite data could send Hurricane forecasting back ‘decades’

What the article fails to clarify is that the Defense Meteorological Satellite Program that Defense (Hegseth?) is shuttering is a critical component of the GFS model runs used for all major storm forecasts—not just hurricanes, but nor’easters, tornadic thunderstorms, snowmakers, etc. NOAA PR is downplaying this as a routine shift in data sources that would normally go unreported, but they have not clarified how or when this data is being replaced, and anonymous sources in NOAA are sounding the alarm that this data is irreplaceable.
 

you2

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Apr 2, 2002
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“A systematic destruction of science”.

This story is flying under the radar right now—even the Guardian missed a key piece of reporting in this story.

Sudden loss of key US satellite data could send Hurricane forecasting back ‘decades’

What the article fails to clarify is that the Defense Meteorological Satellite Program that Defense (Hegseth?) is shuttering is a critical component of the GFS model runs used for all major storm forecasts—not just hurricanes, but nor’easters, tornadic thunderstorms, snowmakers, etc. NOAA PR is downplaying this as a routine shift in data sources that would normally go unreported, but they have not clarified how or when this data is being replaced, and anonymous sources in NOAA are sounding the alarm that this data is irreplaceable.
My guess is a Russian agent is tell trump (project 25) what needs to be done with alternative motivies.

With luck Trump properties will get a good smack from a Hurrican ....
 

[DHT]Osiris

Lifer
Dec 15, 2015
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This was posted by a MAGAt, making it's somewhat Diaper Don related. So I admit I had to Google palatial after seeing mansion. lol

"resembling a palace in being spacious and splendid."

When I saw the picture of the house and read the title I thought this had to be a post mocking the idiot MAGAs, but nope this person was dead ass serious. So that's far from a shack, but a palace? LOL. Some of the replies did correct them, but a lot agreed and said AOC had a rich, privileged life growing up. While that house is probably bigger than the one I grew up in. You'd have to be homeless to think that's a mansion. I guess middle class is considered he life of luxury when it's the right hating on the left. And this means I might have grown up in a palatial mansion and never even knew it.

For reference, they ended by saying the house is worth $500k trying to prove a point I guessa. That's in NY which is expensive, in So Cal the house across the street from me sold last year for $780k, and it's much smaller than this one.




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What's a $150k 2004 bronx flat go for nowadays?
 

you2

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What's a $150k 2004 bronx flat go for nowadays?
You can of course look that up for yourself using your favorite realtor site (zillow, redfin, ...). Also she did not grow up in the bronx - here is a simple example:


hum redfin is a bit better:


Selling for 800,000 it sold for $222,500 in Jan 30 1996.
 

[DHT]Osiris

Lifer
Dec 15, 2015
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You can of course look that up for yourself using your favorite realtor site (zillow, redfin, ...). Also she did not grow up in the bronx - here is a simple example:


hum redfin is a bit better:


Selling for 800,000 it sold for $222,500 in Jan 30 1996.
Right, just saying, if she was a 'bronx girl' (I guess born and raised?) as that jackass was stating she wasn't, she would have had an even greater disparity now as compared to her relatively normal/humble upbringings.
 

QueBert

Lifer
Jan 6, 2002
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Don't know what emoji reaction is appropriate ^^^^

Quite a disjuncture between the lead-up reading the text and then seeing the picture. That's a pretty modest dwelling by most people's standards. I can't make any sense of that embedded post. It would surely make any sense only if you imagined that there's a binary division between WASPy types and everyone even-slightly 'ethnic minority' - with the latter _all_ living in horrendous slum-like Housing Projects.

Well, a lot of MAGAs dream about one day going from a single to a double-wide. So I guess any actual house is awe-inspiring to them. Amusingly, someone replied to the guy saying they Zillo'ed the area and it turns out that house being worth $700k puts it about $150k below the average for the area. I think they're upset that she has always claimed she's from Da Bronx, and in their mind Da Bronx = nothing but project buildings full of black and brown people. But she lived in an extremely modest middle class house with a yard is very privileged living.

Meanwhile, Trump's bathroom has a gold toilet and is probably half the size of her entire house, and they're fine with that.
 

manly

Lifer
Jan 25, 2000
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I read yesterday that my senator, Ron Johnson, met with Trump and still isn't in agreement about the big beautiful bill. I sent the senator an email offering my thoughts and actually encouraging his defiance to the bill that morning. Coincidence? I think not. But I believe he will still cave, despite talks of not seeking reelection. Only politicians not seeking reelection do the right thing, so who knows.
I suspect some version of the BBB will ultimately pass; possibly the trickiest part for the GOP is to keep New York's House Reps from revolting.

I'd be shocked if enough Senators torpedo the vote in the next couple days. Let's also be crystal clear about what Sens. Johnson and Paul actually want in exchange for their votes. They're fine with all the tax cuts that will blow up the debt by about $4T. What they're saying is that social welfare cuts should be even more draconian to offset the fiscal recklessness.

A couple Senators are trying to prevent rural hospitals from collapsing, but that is a tiny piece of the entire puzzle. Currently, they're getting bribed with a $25B stopgap fund that kicks the can down the road a little further.

In a tacit acknowledgment they're also worried about 2026 midterms, they're willing to punt some of the Medicaid cuts slightly into the future. All they're really doing now is putting more lipstick on a pig; and Trump is threatening lawmakers to fall in line or risk being primaried.

And next year and in elections to follow, MAGAts will still vote for leopards to eat whatever is still remaining of their faces.
 

pmv

Lifer
May 30, 2008
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Well, a lot of MAGAs dream about one day going from a single to a double-wide. So I guess any actual house is awe-inspiring to them. Amusingly, someone replied to the guy saying they Zillo'ed the area and it turns out that house being worth $700k puts it about $150k below the average for the area. I think they're upset that she has always claimed she's from Da Bronx, and in their mind Da Bronx = nothing but project buildings full of black and brown people. But she lived in an extremely modest middle class house with a yard is very privileged living.

Meanwhile, Trump's bathroom has a gold toilet and is probably half the size of her entire house, and they're fine with that.


Yeah. I'm going on about this more than it merits, really, but there's actually a lot to that post. Definitely seems there's a tinge of racism involved, because of the implication that the poster believes anyone not pure WASP _must_, to be the genuine article, be from the poorest, most 'ghetto', kind of background, and can't just be boringly lower-middle-class.

At the same time, if AOC were a right-winger, who kept banging on about being from a dirt-poor background and being entirely self-made, in order to justify their attacks on 'elite liberals' or on poor people who hadn't 'made it' as they had done, it would be fair to point at that photo and consider it a signifier of privilege - someone who did grow up in genuine poverty could legitimately argue that a 'moderately comfortable' middle-class background was a form of 'privilege - it's all relative, after all.

But as she's never, as far as I know, done the "four Yorkshiremen sketch" ("we 'ad to live in t'paper bag in middle of t'road, get up half-an-hour before we went to bed, pay the boss for letting us work for them...") and has at most implied she didn't grow up actually rich, and has not attacked the less-well-off and said they need to pull their socks up, none of that applies.