Orange stain second term results thread

[UNCjigga]

If you're going to spout bullshit, could you at least try to make it a little harder to disprove?

https://immigrationimpact.com/2024/11/01/what-is-the-bipartisan-border-bill/

Gotta ignore the shit and run posters. “Ran our country into the ground” lol. For a non-biased comparison of our country’s economic performance under Trump vs. Biden, here’s a good place to start:

The U.S. economy under Trump and Biden – GIS Reports

As Americans evaluate presidential candidates, it is crucial to understand the economic impacts of the most recent Republican and Democratic administrations.

www.gisreportsonline.com

 

[brycejones]

Interviews with the farmers who obviously voted for the Orange Menace (central CA), are sad in that they just can't seem to get mad at Trump about it.

Funny hearing how everyone complains about Trump but they never complained when Biden ran our country into the ground, shut down the oil pipeline, and disregarded the immigration laws. I thought if you did not like a law you tried to have it changed, For the last four years Biden did not try to change the immigration laws. He just blatantly defied them.

3.5 years and the best you can do is easily disproved bullshit?

MAGA is not sending us their best

 

[VashHT]

Funny hearing how everyone complains about Trump but they never complained when Biden ran our country into the ground, shut down the oil pipeline, and disregarded the immigration laws. I thought if you did not like a law you tried to have it changed, For the last four years Biden did not try to change the immigration laws. He just blatantly defied them.

Funny how right wingers complained non stop about gas and grocery prices and national debt but now that trump is president and making all of those worse they don't give a shit. It's not surprising though, considering you just listed off a bunch of made up bullshit

 

[Brainonska511]

Funny how right wingers complained non stop about gas and grocery prices and national debt but now that trump is president and making all of those worse they don't give a shit. It's not surprising though, considering you just listed off a bunch of made up bullshit

AllOhioAstronautMeme - it's all vibes? Always has been.

 

[you2]

Is this bullshit legal:

Trump to sign executive order forming DOJ-led task force to root out 'anti-Christian bias'
Francesca Chambers, USA TODAY
Updated Thu, February 6, 2025 at 11:45 AM CST·2 min read
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WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump said Thursday that he's forming a task force to be led by the Department of Justice to "eradicate anti-Christian bias" within the federal government and prosecute violence against Christians.

Trump said he would be launching a presidential commission on religious liberty and signing an executive order putting Attorney General Pam Bondi over the DOJ initiative, which he said he was creating to confront "weaponization" and "religious persecution" of Christians in the United States.

The mission of the task force will be to "immediately halt all forms of anti-Christian targeting and discrimination in the federal government," including at the Department of Justice, the FBI, the IRS and other agencies, Trump said in a speech at the National Prayer Breakfast.


U.S. President Donald Trump and Pastor Paula White attend the annual National Prayer Breakfast at Hilton hotel in Washington, U.S., February 6, 2025. REUTERS/Kevin Lamarque
"In addition, the task force will work to fully prosecute anti-Christian violence and vandalism in our society, and to move heaven and earth to defend the rights of Christians and religious believers nationwide," he said.

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The formation of the task force was part of the GOP's official platform in 2024, and Trump affirmed the pledge on the campaign trail.

Trump also said he's forming a White House faith office. The office will be lead by Paula White, who worked as an adviser to Trump on a similar initiative in his first term. White is currently a pastor at StoryLife Church in Apopka, Florida.

His first week in office, Trump pardoned 23 anti-abortion activists, one of whom, Paulette Harlow, he said was jailed for "peacefully praying." Trump said Thursday that Harlow was an example of the DOJ being "weaponized" against Christians in the previous administration.

Harlow was arrested on Oct. 22, 2020, during Trump's first term, for blocking access to an abortion clinic. She was prosecuted during the Biden administration and convicted of federal offenses in 2023 under the Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances Act, which makes it a crime to use force, the threat of force or physical obstruction to prevent someone from obtaining or providing reproductive services. She was sentenced to two years in prison.

Trump argued on Thursday in his breakfast remarks that the law should not have been used to prosecute Harlow.

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"Grateful that he is safeguarding religious liberty by appointing AG Pam Bondi to lead a task force against anti-Christian bias in the federal government," Rep. Brian Babin, R-Texas, chimed in on X after Trump's announcement

Rachel Laser, president and CEO of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, said in a statement following Trump's announcement that "rather than protecting religious beliefs, this task force will misuse religious freedom to justify bigotry, discrimination, and the subversion of our civil rights laws."

This article originally appeared on USA TODAY: Trump to form task force aimed at rooting out "anti-Christian bias"

 

[UNCjigga]

Anti-DEI bias is now the law, but anti-Christian bias is now illegal. Got it.

But what if you interpret Jesus’ teachings as pro diversity, pro-equity, and pro inclusion? Something something about loaves and fishes? Are those “he gets us” ads on tv protected speech or illegal speech?

 

[purbeast0]

Serious question - how is all this dumb fucking shit getting through and no one is checking or challenging it? Like how is everyone just sitting on their ass and going along with this?

 

[K1052]

Serious question - how is all this dumb fucking shit getting through and no one is checking or challenging it? Like how is everyone just sitting on their ass and going along with this?

They are getting checked somewhat in the courts but seem to be interpreting the orders absurdly narrowly to try getting around them. Soon some judge is probably going to start holding DOJ lawyers in contempt for lying.

The real lever is government funding is up mid-March and probably the debt ceiling too. The Democrats should be telling the republicans point blank that if all this (unauthorized cuts) is not reversed that there will be no votes for either of those things. I also would not give him more than a couple months funding at a time to keep him on the leash.

 

[gothuevos]

But what if you interpret Jesus’ teachings as pro diversity, pro-equity, and pro inclusion? Something something about loaves and fishes? Are those “he gets us” ads on tv protected speech or illegal speech?

The punishment is you get to pick Gitmo vs El Salvador.

 

[MrSquished]

They are getting checked somewhat in the courts but seem to be interpreting the orders absurdly narrowly to try getting around them. Soon some judge is probably going to start holding DOJ lawyers in contempt for lying.

The real lever is government funding is up mid-March and probably the debt ceiling too. The Democrats should be telling the republicans point blank that if all this (unauthorized cuts) is not reversed that there will be no votes for either of those things. I also would not give him more than a couple months funding at a time to keep him on the leash.

Yep. March is gonna be key. The Dems really have to have balls here - no extensions without major concessions. Let the government default and then watch Papa Elon do something crazy in the treasury in response and set some shit off that turns people against them.

 

[UNCjigga]

Serious question - how is all this dumb fucking shit getting through and no one is checking or challenging it? Like how is everyone just sitting on their ass and going along with this?

No one’s paying attention…and some of those who do pay attention don’t believe it, and most of those who do believe it don’t care. Its really hard to get the message when we’re all living in a media bubble of our own curation (streaming, podcasts etc. vs. Walter Cronkite or Edward R Murrow). I’m no exception—I don’t even watch Maddow anymore like I did the first term. I’d rather watch Jon Stewart if I’m even watching news.

We’re being hoisted by our own apathetic petard.

 

[K1052]

Yep. March is gonna be key. The Dems really have to have balls here - no extensions without major concessions. Let the government default and then watch Papa Elon do something crazy in the treasury in response and set some shit off that turns people against them.

They sound like they are wiling to do it now if for no other reason than negotiating a spending deal with somebody who won't adhere to the terms is a totally pointless exercise. There are also primary threats from dissatisfied D voters bubbling up behind the scenes. Failure to become aggressive with their leverage will incur a major political penalty.

 

[purbeast0]

They are getting checked somewhat in the courts but seem to be interpreting the orders absurdly narrowly to try getting around them. Soon some judge is probably going to start holding DOJ lawyers in contempt for lying.

The real lever is government funding is up mid-March and probably the debt ceiling too. The Democrats should be telling the republicans point blank that if all this (unauthorized cuts) is not reversed that there will be no votes for either of those things. I also would not give him more than a couple months funding at a time to keep him on the leash.

I am even talking about shit like making the federal employees go back into the office. Like how is that not being fought back against? It's literally going to ruin lives and is messing with so many people's livelihood. And for literally zero benefit, and it will also cost the government MORE money because they will need seats for everyone and pay for the buildings.

Like there is literally ZERO benefit for this to be a federal mandated thing and there is SSSOOOO much downside to it, yet no one is doing a damn thing to stop it.

 

[K1052]

I am even talking about shit like making the federal employees go back into the office. Like how is that not being fought back against? It's literally going to ruin lives and is messing with so many people's livelihood. And for literally zero benefit, and it will also cost the government MORE money because they will need seats for everyone and pay for the buildings.

Like there is literally ZERO benefit for this to be a federal mandated thing and there is SSSOOOO much downside to it, yet no one is doing a damn thing to stop it.

Workers got some leverage thanks to COVID and the management class wants to punish them for it. Trump of course is their avatar. They don't give a fuck if it actually works worse and costs more, they just want to see their drones at their desks and feel content with their position over them again.

 

[Brainonska511]

They are getting checked somewhat in the courts but seem to be interpreting the orders absurdly narrowly to try getting around them. Soon some judge is probably going to start holding DOJ lawyers in contempt for lying.

The real lever is government funding is up mid-March and probably the debt ceiling too. The Democrats should be telling the republicans point blank that if all this (unauthorized cuts) is not reversed that there will be no votes for either of those things. I also would not give him more than a couple months funding at a time to keep him on the leash.

It also just takes time to challenge. Have to write briefs, find people that might have standing to sue... Meanwhile, the bullshit factory is running full steam ahead.

 

[K1052]

First person to figure out you can just bully these racist incel dweebs when they show up is going to start a revolution.




https://bsky.app/profile/klong.bsky.social/post/3lhjx7usgvc26

 

[ivwshane]

Yep. March is gonna be key. The Dems really have to have balls here - no extensions without major concessions. Let the government default and then watch Papa Elon do something crazy in the treasury in response and set some shit off that turns people against them.

Defaulting only hurts the US a while and will only weaken the dollar and potentially our influence around the world. This just doesn’t sound like a good strategy.

 

[fskimospy]

First person to figure out you can just bully these racist incel dweebs when they show up is going to start a revolution.

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Sure is odd how the people who always complain about being called Nazis keep so much company with Nazis.

I would be interested to hear an explanation from conservatives as to why this keeps happening.

 

[fskimospy]

Funny how right wingers complained non stop about gas and grocery prices and national debt but now that trump is president and making all of those worse they don't give a shit. It's not surprising though, considering you just listed off a bunch of made up bullshit

Not to mention Biden literally did attempt to pass a new immigration law and Republicans torpedoed it at Trump’s insistence.

 

[K1052]

Sure is odd how the people who always complain about being called Nazis keep so much company with Nazis.

I would be interested to hear an explanation from conservatives as to why this keeps happening.

Mr. Free Speech Absolutist also thinks it is illegal to name his employees. Probably because he doesn't want people finding out the kind of people his boy wonders are.

 

[DZero]

Anti-DEI bias is now the law, but anti-Christian bias is now illegal. Got it.

But what if you interpret Jesus’ teachings as pro diversity, pro-equity, and pro inclusion? Something something about loaves and fishes? Are those “he gets us” ads on tv protected speech or illegal speech?

Plot twist: Trump realizes that and transforms into an Russian Orthodox bias once the Christians starts to screw up.

 

[nakedfrog]

Sure is odd how the people who always complain about being called Nazis keep so much company with Nazis.

I would be interested to hear an explanation from conservatives as to why this keeps happening.

Oldie but a goodie.

 

[K1052]

I increasingly think that the Democrats should stage their own Brooks Brothers Riot at one of the agencies and force their way inside. Probably Department of Education.

 

[ch33zw1z]

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-says-he-will-sign-order-targeting-anti-christian-bias-2025-02-06/

The 14 Characteristics of Fascism, by Lawrence Britt, Spring 2003

“
Religion and Government are Intertwined
Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.”

🤷‍♂️

 

[Jaskalas]

Serious question - how is all this dumb fucking shit getting through and no one is checking or challenging it? Like how is everyone just sitting on their ass and going along with this?

Trump is the executive. No checks there.
Congress is divided or owned by MAGA. So good luck....
SCOTUS is tiled in MAGA's favor too....

Congress is potentially never useful nor functional. So unless the Courts want to wag their finger there's really nothing stopping a President.
And... wag their finger is correct. The executive must voluntarily submit to the Court and Congress. Otherwise they're free to do whatever the hell they want with the entire country.

Always has been. It's just that we've never descended so far into lawlessness before. People used to have a sense of moral character holding them back.
And... this isn't rock bottom. You still have utilities. You still have stores full of goods. There's a long ways to go yet, before you see how bad it gets.