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Brainonska511

Brainonska511

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IronWing said:
This is pretty much true. In the OSHA classes I’ve attended, the blue collar workers were always bitching about OSHA while the middle management types accepted that safety practices really do save the company money. Dead workers are cheap, maimed workers are hella expensive.
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Middle management and small business owners followed the OSHA rules because they were on the hook for fines and penalties, even when their workers refused to wear PPE.

Also, safe workers means fewer accidents and operational delays due to accidents. But who cares about that? Let's go back to the good old days of McKinley.
 
Panino Manino

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Brainonska511 said:
Um... that's literally every government ever. Constitutions and laws are just pieces of paper - they only have meaning if people believe they have meaning and act accordingly.
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No, it is not.
They're doing what they're doing mostly because the Constitution is too simple and vague. That was just a "prototype" of a "real" Constitution. The whole thing was never serious to begin it, wasn't it? Just a compromise between ungentlemen gentlemen.
That's why every other democracy that came after have more detailed Constitution.
Take for example Brazil. There's a criticism to be made that it could be shorter, but the fact that it isn't, that it says in detail what everyone can and can't do prevented Bolsonaro's government from doing a lot of the same things, that's why the right here constantly attacks the Constitution and accuses others of violating the Constitution.

Most of what is happen in Murrica today is murrica's own fault for have no real laws, for having a fraud of a Constitution.

Now they're learned their lessons and what should happen next is a National effort for a new and this time for real and serious Constitution.
 
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It's a gift to the world, we never had so much fun seeing a country implode.
 
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[DHT]Osiris

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Panino Manino said:
No, it is not.
They're doing what they're doing mostly because the Constitution is too simple and vague. That was just a "prototype" of a "real" Constitution. The whole thing was never serious to begin it, wasn't it? Just a compromise between ungentlemen gentlemen.
That's why every other democracy that came after have more detailed Constitution.
Take for example Brazil. There's a criticism to be made that it could be shorter, but the fact that it isn't, that it says in detail what everyone can and can't do prevented Bolsonaro's government from doing a lot of the same things, that's why the right here constantly attacks the Constitution and accuses others of violating the Constitution.

Most of what is happen in Murrica today is murrica's own fault for have no real laws, for having a fraud of a Constitution.

Now they're learned their lessons and what should happen next is a National effort for a new and this time for real and serious Constitution.
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If a constitution isn't enforced by an AI with unlimited power (essentially a god) then no, it's just a piece of paper. All constitutions require enforcement to mean anything and that depends on people.
 
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RalphTheCow said:
I couldn’t resist posting this article here, since it seems so appropriate.

apple.news

This is why it's okay to be angry at anyone who voted for Trump — Advocate

Opinion: They were warned about Project 2025, autocracy, homophobia, transphobia, xenophobia, and we’re suffering the consequences because of their ignorance, John Casey writes.
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Admittedly my theology is a little rusty but IIRC Jesus himself said that repentance without change was meaningless and you're going to the bad place. So the idea that people who might be questing things now should be spared recriminations is not persuasive to me personally.
 
Brainonska511

Brainonska511

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[DHT]Osiris said:
If a constitution isn't enforced by an AI with unlimited power (essentially a god) then no, it's just a piece of paper. All constitutions require enforcement to mean anything and that depends on people.
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Yep. Institutions are just people working together. And if people decide to not follow the rules, well, here we are.

The Soviet Union and North Korea had/have great constitutions guaranteeing all sorts of rights. What's that? I'm hearing that they didn't exactly live up to those words...
 
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Brainonska511

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you2 said:
Ah ha - in a month trump will state that his tariff did exactly what he wanted - attempt to take a political win and all tariffs go away. God damn mexico.
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With Trump trying to reinstitute a remain in Mexico policy, Mexico was probably considering deployment of the guard anyway to help maintain order. Trump is just an idiot: making all sorts of hay to get nothing real in return.
 
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Brainonska511 said:
With Trump trying to reinstitute a remain in Mexico policy, Mexico was probably considering deployment of the guard anyway to help maintain order. Trump is just an idiot: making all sorts of hay to get nothing real in return.
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Also likely needed to handle Mexican citizens returning from the US, voluntarily or otherwise.
 
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MrSquished said:
SO anything Musk's team does is fully protected by the new DOJ

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Hum so say something negative about Musk and it is illegal but Musk sez something bad about everyone else and it is fine.... yea right. Fuckers aren't about legal process if they were they would arrest Musk for running an illegal organizatin and illegally turning off the money to congress funded organizations.
 
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[DHT]Osiris said:
If a constitution isn't enforced by an AI with unlimited power (essentially a god) then no, it's just a piece of paper. All constitutions require enforcement to mean anything and that depends on people.
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LOLROFMAO
Yes, nothing is perfect, but better than the absolute worst.

It's illegal to try to prevent a private immigrant and his team of kids from breaking every law, from breaching every info.

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Nice rule of law you guys have there!

Because this Constitution don't say specifically what anyone can do anyone can do anything they want. A better constitution would say that he can't do this and any supreme judge could and would already overturn this absurd. Any federal judge could put a security restraint order on Musk and his minions.


Also, why is no one shooting yet?
Didn't murricans loved their second amendment? Was that a lie?
 
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Panino Manino

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It may be for the wrong reasons, but at least one good thing this Musk is doing.
USAID is a terrorist organisation.
 
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