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MrSquished

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If someone was dumb enough to think 2019 could come back...
Let us not pretend that pro Nazi media hasn't already claimed them. It has, and unless we ban their speech, it will continue to tell them who to vote for. By telling them who to fear and hate.
Voters are part of the problem, and another big part is a shitty opposition party, whose entire responsibility and duty is to oppose well, and part of that is by being able to connect with voters and be able to fight and expose the other side. Understand the battlefield and affect it. But we do have a poorly educated population, and a shitty opposition, so we lose out on both fronts so badly.
 

nakedfrog

No Lifer
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It's unfortunately conservatives who are obsessed with sex and gender. I don't know why it's so hard for conservatives to just mind their own business. Is that really so hard?
Indeed. Fox News publishes more articles about trans people that anyone else, even ones that are about trans people. Almost 1,000 anti-trans articles in 2025.


This may lead low-information voters to think there are vastly more trans people in the US than there actually are.

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MrSquished

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I never implied I would ignore you. I don't have anyone on ignore, it messes with the flow. You should just see how you look from the outside. It's not good.
your opinion is noted? I mean great I guess, congrats?

I know I'm right about the Dem party and trying to get left of center folks and try to fix this party that has failed us so terribly, and is so utterly corrupt and wrong for average Americans, and helped these evil people get power, and keep it.

All my real life circle are left of center, and the majority are very politically literate. And a good chunk are also above average intelligence. And the vast majority see what I see about the system and the Dems role in it. In fact, I used to defend the Dem establishment to some of them years ago before I saw how shitty this party really is at its core. I was defending some of the Dem establishment! I was wrong. But it's become so easy to see, especially the last few years.

To wake up left of center folks to try to fight the rot of this party at every step we can in order to fight fascism as best we can is one of the most important things we can do today politically. We can't make the other party less evil, but those of us who actively vote and in primaries especially, owe it to everyone suffering today to fix the broken opposition.

If you don't agree with that to the point you take the propagandist on the other side of this in Brainonska, why would I care about your opinion?
 

FelixDeCat

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It's unfortunately conservatives who are obsessed with sex and gender. I don't know why it's so hard for conservatives to just mind their own business. Is that really so hard?
Gender is not fluid. But I digress. Be a tortilla if you want to, I don't care.

But please dont torment the rest of the public to accept you with accessibility lawsuits and making rage bait videos of you getting angry because someone was being normally polite and calls you mam or sir.

I am a "they" got damnit! Call me they! With the faux outrage because nobody in hell would have guessed just by looking at you. Wear a sign if you are that oppressed. But don't rage bait on purpose and on camera for social media clicks.
 

nakedfrog

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your opinion is noted? I mean great I guess, congrats?

I know I'm right about the Dem party and trying to get left of center folks and try to fix this party that has failed us so terribly, and is so utterly corrupt and wrong for average Americans, and helped these evil people get power, and keep it.

All my real life circle are left of center, and the majority are very politically literate. And a good chunk are also above average intelligence. And the vast majority see what I see about the system and the Dems role in it. In fact, I used to defend the Dem establishment to some of them years ago before I saw how shitty this party really is at its core. I was defending some of the Dem establishment! I was wrong. But it's become so easy to see, especially the last few years.

To wake up left of center folks to try to fight the rot of this party at every step we can in order to fight fascism as best we can is one of the most important things we can do today politically. We can't make the other party less evil, but those of us who actively vote and in primaries especially, owe it to everyone suffering today to fix the broken opposition.

If you don't agree with that to the point you take the propagandist on the other side of this in Brainonska, why would I care about your opinion?
And do you think you're going to wake him up by berating him endlessly? This exemplifies some of the worst of leftist in-fighting. Your purity tests will not avail you.
 
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nakedfrog

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Gender is not fluid. But I digress. Be a tortilla if you want to, I don't care.

But please dont torment the rest of the public to accept you with accessibility lawsuits and making rage bait videos of you getting angry because someone was being normally polite and calls you mam or sir.

I am a "they" got damnit! Call me they! With the faux outrage because nobody in hell would have guessed you just by looking at you. Wear a sign if you are that oppressed. But don't rage bait on purpose and on camera for social media clicks.
Examples?
 

MrSquished

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And do you think you're going to wake him up by berating him endlessly? This exemplifies some of the worst of leftist in-fighting. Your purity tests will not avail you.
What makes you think I want to change his mind? That is your mistake.

He is way too far gone down his delusional rabbit hole to have his mind changed - aka why I call him a cultist. You can't change cultist's minds. He is a goner - so no, I have no illusion or interest in changing him at all.

But what I can do is expose his lies about facts, which he repeatedly states and re-states over and over and over again, and his mostly terrible opinions when it comes to how to fight fascism. When people keep lying, you should keep opposing them. It's way more productive than responding to Felix or Greenman IMO - we don't have to convince 99% of this forum that MAGATS are pure evil and hypocrisy.
 

Pontius Dilate

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your opinion is noted? I mean great I guess, congrats?

I know I'm right about the Dem party and trying to get left of center folks and try to fix this party that has failed us so terribly, and is so utterly corrupt and wrong for average Americans, and helped these evil people get power, and keep it.

All my real life circle are left of center, and the majority are very politically literate. And a good chunk are also above average intelligence. And the vast majority see what I see about the system and the Dems role in it. In fact, I used to defend the Dem establishment to some of them years ago before I saw how shitty this party really is at its core. I was defending some of the Dem establishment! I was wrong. But it's become so easy to see, especially the last few years.

To wake up left of center folks to try to fight the rot of this party at every step we can in order to fight fascism as best we can is one of the most important things we can do today politically. We can't make the other party less evil, but those of us who actively vote and in primaries especially, owe it to everyone suffering today to fix the broken opposition.

If you don't agree with that to the point you take the propagandist on the other side of this in Brainonska, why would I care about your opinion?
I'm certain we're in agreement on a lot of fundamental positions. Just after reading post upon post upon post from you absolutely dripping with bile and vitriol I felt like responding.
 

MrSquished

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I'm certain we're in agreement on a lot of fundamental positions. Just after reading post upon post upon post from you absolutely dripping with bile and vitriol I felt like responding.
I do get riled up because I do hate cultists, liars, and fascist enablers - of which he is all three. Especially people that keep lying and lying and lying. Otherwise I'm usually in a good mood.

Just do us all a favor, and vote for any decent and actual progressive candidate if they are facing a feckless Dem establishment candidate in your district, and explain to anyone else in your circle why this is the best way to survive all this.
 

MrSquished

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Be careful who you contact about pointing out evil - as in, probably don't email a single damn republican political figure because there is a 99.9999% chance they are evil and this could happen.



Also, isn't it so great that establishment Dem politican Whitmer is being 'unsually' tough on Trump about yet another insane thing he is yapping about?

 

sactoking

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Not sure if it's been mentioned because in not going through the whole thread, or even the recent posts, but CMS released their draft Notice of Benefit and Payment Parameters (NBPP) for the 2027 plan year yesterday. I hope y'all are ready for health insurance to get much worse than it already is, while also getting more expensive, because this one is a doozy.
 
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Amused

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Gender is not fluid. But I digress. Be a tortilla if you want to, I don't care.

But please dont torment the rest of the public to accept you with accessibility lawsuits and making rage bait videos of you getting angry because someone was being normally polite and calls you mam or sir.

I am a "they" got damnit! Call me they! With the faux outrage because nobody in hell would have guessed just by looking at you. Wear a sign if you are that oppressed. But don't rage bait on purpose and on camera for social media clicks.

Ya know what's funny? I live in the Los Angeles area. I NEVER see or hear this on a day to day basis. It just is NOT a thing except inside conservative echo chambers. Do people complain about being misgendered? Sure. I have only seen it on the internet and ONLY when a conservacult MAGA person shows it to me. Otherwise, it just is NOT a thing a person will witness in their day to day lives. I've even accidentally misgendered a few people in the last few years. No melt down, no issues. Just an honest mistake and they were gracious about it.

For years, I did the CA AIDS charity ride from SF to LA. Surrounded by over 3000 people from the LGTBQ community. NONE of them where like the extreme examples thrown in the faces of conservative echo chambers on a daily basis.

Go outside. Touch grass. Witness what the REAL world looks like. And get OUT of your insane rage bait bigotry feeding echo chamber.
 

MrSquished

Lifer
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Not sure if it's been mentioned because in not going through the whole thread, or even the recent posts, but CMS released their draft Notice of Benefit and Payment Parameters (NBPP) for the 2027 plan year yesterday. I hope y'all are ready for health insurance to get much worse than it already is, while also getting more expensive, becaus?e this one is a doozy.
Do you have a link to info on that? My sister and I need to get on this to figure out for my mom together.

Still at it.

I saw that today. I do believe that people will be putting them up there on their own any minute now, and repeatedly.
 

you2

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Also, isn't it so great that establishment Dem politican Whitmer is being 'unsually' tough on Trump about yet another insane thing he is yapping about?

The entire thing is a joke. Canada paid to build the bridge (not usa); the land on both side of the bridge is Canadian - what the fuck is trump whining about. If he wanted them to use more american material then he should have fucking paid to build the bridge and had it placed on american land.

Jessus what an asshole whiner. And if we go a step further on that asshole - thi sis just too good:


Jamie Raskin claims the UNredacted epson files have Trump name many times over. Yep - while exposing victims (probably intentionally to keep them from coming forward); they cheerfully blacked out trump and other rich assholes names.


While i suspect Raskin exaggerated the number of times he found Trump's name i do suspect it was blacked out more then a few times.

My personal belief false or true is that Trump was grooming a 15 year old when Epstein stole her and that caused the bitter falling out between the two.
 

allisolm

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Looks like the syphilitic orange menace is having a governors meeting NGA at the WH with only Republican governors. And then having a black tie dinner and leaving out the only black governor in the nation, Wes Moore of Maryland.
Oh wait, gays not included either as governor Jared Polis from Colorado isn't invited either.


"Trump had already announced that the traditionally bipartisan winter meeting between the NGA and White House would include only Republican governors. But the president has specifically blocked Moore and Colorado Gov. Jared Polis from the event’s black-tie dinner. "

Looks like the governors got some backbone and said no thank you, we'll just skip the whole thing.

"The National Governors Association cancelled a meeting with U.S. President Donald Trump later this month after the White House excluded Democratic governors..."

"The National Governors Association has a long tradition of bipartisan gatherings to trade best practices and ideas, regardless of party affiliation. It's what Americans expect and deserve and unfortunately, the White House does not seem to feel the same."

 

esquared

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hal2kilo

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Not sure if it's been mentioned because in not going through the whole thread, or even the recent posts, but CMS released their draft Notice of Benefit and Payment Parameters (NBPP) for the 2027 plan year yesterday. I hope y'all are ready for health insurance to get much worse than it already is, while also getting more expensive, because this one is a doozy.
They love to use the phrase effective and affordable. Watch out!