Optimum Online Upstream Cap?

Regs

Lifer
Aug 9, 2002
16,665
21
81
What is Optimum's normal cap on the upstream for a cable modem? I heard a rumar about them getting 'evil' about people who run FTPs and other file servers off their Upstreams.
 

mboy

Diamond Member
Jul 29, 2001
3,309
0
0
1mb up, if they catch u using too much up bandwidth, they cap u to 150Kbps.
Check out the TRILLIONS of posts on this topic at dslr.com
 

Regs

Lifer
Aug 9, 2002
16,665
21
81
Whoa, I thought so. What a rip. All these companies have terabytes of bandwidth yet like to jerk you for your dollar.
 

NetWareHead

THAT guy
Aug 10, 2002
5,847
154
106
Terabytes of bandwidth? Every node only has 5 mbps on the upload side. If you and 4 other people constantly upload at full blast, everyone's connection on that node becomes useless. They give you that great upload for short bursts like sending an e-mail attachment etc... not to pound it constantly with kazaa
 

ScottMac

Moderator<br>Networking<br>Elite member
Mar 19, 2001
5,471
2
0
No, not quite.

Terabytes? not even close. Many may have as many as a couple OC3s (155Mb), or OC12s (622Mb), and the huge ones, maybe one or two OC48s or OC192s (2.4 and ~10Gb). Divided up by how many users? Hundreds of thousands? Millions?

Then, beyond bandwidth, there's the capacity of the active infrastructure and finite processing ability of the system. The closer to capacity they run, the latencies start to grow, and the system slows down.

The cost of redundancy, staffing, backup (power, environment, media, bandwidth ...) has to be tossed in as well. Riding herd on a bunch of wannabe webmasters / junior hosts just adds to the cost.

With rare exception, most of the providers, DSL, BB Cable, or dial-up provide the user with some webspace - put your server there; it's probably more secure and less likely to be a nusence (when your personal site gets hacked or infected). Need more space? Pick up a hosting package - there's some out there that are literally dollars a month. Picture hosting, Anon FTP, web, mail .... usually all included.

For the most part, this is a reactive industry; the caps are there because people abused the privilages and bandwidth. They are there so that "regular" users can enjoy what they've paid for (at the level they've paid for). If you want more, buy more.

If the providers can't make money on the deal, then you'll have nuthin' but dial up ... wouldn't that be a hoot. File sharing gets real easy: "For a good download call (345) 555-1234."

Pardon my rant, but this is one of my pet peeves. If you knew what it cost in equipment, personnel, and money to bring up, run, and maintain a system of any size at all you'd appreciate what a true pain-in-the-a$$ junk do-nothing servers can be.

JM.02

Scott




 

Regs

Lifer
Aug 9, 2002
16,665
21
81
I used the term terabytes lightly of course. And I knew I would of instigated true responses with my reply.

Thanks.
 

skyking

Lifer
Nov 21, 2001
22,545
5,591
146
Originally posted by: mboy
1mb up, if they catch u using too much up bandwidth, they cap u to 150Kbps.
Check out the TRILLIONS of posts on this topic at dslr.com

It STARTS at 1 mb? Dayum, I wuz capped at 128 from the get-go, no honeymoon or nuthin' :p
 

Night201

Diamond Member
Apr 23, 2001
3,697
0
76
I was capped once for sending 2 concerts (SHN files - legal) to a friend. They capped me. After a few months, it got annoying. I called them up, explained the situation, and he uncapped me on the spot.
 

mboy

Diamond Member
Jul 29, 2001
3,309
0
0
Originally posted by: rutchtkim
OOL lets you run ftp?

Their TOS denies you the ability to host ANY server. email, ftp,web, even game servers. There real crack down is peer to peer. They block most of the usual hosting ports.

 

rutchtkim

Golden Member
Aug 2, 2001
1,880
0
0
Does Optimum Online bloack ports? OR are you actually able to run services, but just not allowed to do it. One of my buddies who has an apmt near school wants to know cuz he says OOL blocked all well known ports. Thus he cannot run FTP and stuff like that. I have OOL also in a diff town, but I have never tried, no need for me.
 

mboy

Diamond Member
Jul 29, 2001
3,309
0
0
Supposedly, they block ports in different areas, but i don't know if I buy that.

Tell him to change his ftp server from port 21 to a higher port #
 

Night201

Diamond Member
Apr 23, 2001
3,697
0
76
Originally posted by: rutchtkim
Does Optimum Online bloack ports? OR are you actually able to run services, but just not allowed to do it. One of my buddies who has an apmt near school wants to know cuz he says OOL blocked all well known ports. Thus he cannot run FTP and stuff like that. I have OOL also in a diff town, but I have never tried, no need for me.

They block some ports. They block port 80 over where I am, so I use port 89 and have everything forward to that. So, my address is www.whatever.com:89 - for the time being.
 

mboy

Diamond Member
Jul 29, 2001
3,309
0
0
Originally posted by: Night201
Originally posted by: rutchtkim
Does Optimum Online bloack ports? OR are you actually able to run services, but just not allowed to do it. One of my buddies who has an apmt near school wants to know cuz he says OOL blocked all well known ports. Thus he cannot run FTP and stuff like that. I have OOL also in a diff town, but I have never tried, no need for me.

They block some ports. They block port 80 over where I am, so I use port 89 and have everything forward to that. So, my address is <a href="http://www.whatever.com:89">www.whatever.com:89</A> - for the time being.


I meant to say they most certainly block ports, just not sure if the block some in some areas and not in others.
80,25,netbios, etc are all bocked
 

rutchtkim

Golden Member
Aug 2, 2001
1,880
0
0
Well, my friend is in the New Brunswick, NJ Rutgers University area. Anyone else know of any suggestions? He just wants to test things out, not actually run a huge server. Just so he can download stuff from his aptm when he is at school.
 

JackMDS

Elite Member
Super Moderator
Oct 25, 1999
29,516
408
126
For $15 a year you can buy a TLD (aka, i-am-a-big-chief.com) for additional $4-8 a month you can get a space on a full normal hosted server 24/7.

Your set your own email bigchief@wow-my-ownmail.com and you can give a nice email service to your friends and family.

Best of all it is less expensive than the cost of anti anxiety medication, or and alcohol consumption, used to relax the fear of been discover by the ISP and the port scanners.
 

leung324

Banned
Apr 29, 2003
340
0
0
ok...I am a ool user for about 7 months now. I have been capped for a few times. my advice is do not upload at your max speed. I upload at 60kb/s and less than 2gbs a day. this is avoid the cap.

I have been running a ftp server ever since I am with ool. I used to run it on port 21, but got little paranoid and changed it to higher. I don't think they block any ports at all.