Specop 007
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Originally posted by: Cheex
Baby Eagle 9mm 15-round clip.
Originally posted by: misle
I would buy a CZ P-01. Be sure to try before you buy. Handguns are not one size fits all.
Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones
Just remember...if it's too big you won't carry it, thus making it useless. I don't see how folks carry something like a Glock 19, how can you even sit down...
Even more so with a white collar job. If you have to tuck your shirt in for work, that's a big disadvantage for an IWB hoslter. If it doesn't fit in my front pocket, I really can't carry it.
Other ones to look at in the small 9mm area are:
Robaugh 9mm (expensive!, but smallest there is)
Kahr PM9
Kel-Tec PF9 (my recommended)
Kel-Tec P11 (a bit larger than the PF9, but more rounds)
I'd suggest getting a stapler or something and trying carrying it around "concealed" to get an idea of what you're in for...
Originally posted by: JEDI
Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones
Just remember...if it's too big you won't carry it, thus making it useless. I don't see how folks carry something like a Glock 19, how can you even sit down...
Even more so with a white collar job. If you have to tuck your shirt in for work, that's a big disadvantage for an IWB hoslter. If it doesn't fit in my front pocket, I really can't carry it.
Other ones to look at in the small 9mm area are:
Robaugh 9mm (expensive!, but smallest there is)
Kahr PM9
Kel-Tec PF9 (my recommended)
Kel-Tec P11 (a bit larger than the PF9, but more rounds)
I'd suggest getting a stapler or something and trying carrying it around "concealed" to get an idea of what you're in for...
pf9= 7 rounds
might as well buy a .38 special revolver
anything bad about putting an extended magazine in a concealable? (ie: Glock 26 w/15 round clip?)
Originally posted by: CadetLee
Originally posted by: JEDI
Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones
Just remember...if it's too big you won't carry it, thus making it useless. I don't see how folks carry something like a Glock 19, how can you even sit down...
Even more so with a white collar job. If you have to tuck your shirt in for work, that's a big disadvantage for an IWB hoslter. If it doesn't fit in my front pocket, I really can't carry it.
Other ones to look at in the small 9mm area are:
Robaugh 9mm (expensive!, but smallest there is)
Kahr PM9
Kel-Tec PF9 (my recommended)
Kel-Tec P11 (a bit larger than the PF9, but more rounds)
I'd suggest getting a stapler or something and trying carrying it around "concealed" to get an idea of what you're in for...
pf9= 7 rounds
might as well buy a .38 special revolver
anything bad about putting an extended magazine in a concealable? (ie: Glock 26 w/15 round clip?)
Fixed.
Bad? No...but it definitely isn't going to be any easier to conceal.
Originally posted by: DonVito
Can I ask why you want to carry in the first place? In general I think it's a stupid idea (especially for someone who isn't really accustomed to being around guns, as you apparently aren't), and it's more likely to create physical danger and bottomless financial liability for you than it is to protect you. I am a gun owner and have been mugged at knifepoint, but I would never, ever want to carry on the city streets.
Actually a few years ago a member of the Glock Talk forum, which I used to frequent, was killed when he tried to intervene in a liquor store robbery - the reality is that the bad guys are almost invariably more willing to pull the trigger than you or I. If you're "lucky" enough to get off the first shot, say hello to nightmares, years of therapy, and spending your life savings on legal bills.
The only time I'd want to carry would be on a backpacking trip or something similar, where the risk comes not from would-be muggers but from animals, rapists, and killers. In that setting I'd carry openly.
Originally posted by: CadetLee
This is where discretion comes in. Ever read the "Armed Citizen" in American Rifleman?
You do make a very good point, though -- definitely something that needs to be considered. I do disagree with the "stupid idea" bit, though.
Originally posted by: DonVito
Can I ask why you want to carry in the first place? In general I think it's a stupid idea (especially for someone who isn't really accustomed to being around guns, as you apparently aren't), and it's more likely to create physical danger and bottomless financial liability for you than it is to protect you. I am a gun owner and have been mugged at knifepoint, but I would never, ever want to carry on the city streets.
Actually a few years ago a member of the Glock Talk forum, which I used to frequent, was killed when he tried to intervene in a liquor store robbery - the reality is that the bad guys are almost invariably more willing to pull the trigger than you or I. If you're "lucky" enough to get off the first shot, say hello to nightmares, years of therapy, and spending your life savings on legal bills.
The only time I'd want to carry would be on a backpacking trip or something similar, where the risk comes not from would-be muggers but from animals, rapists, and killers. In that setting I'd carry openly.
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: DonVito
Can I ask why you want to carry in the first place? In general I think it's a stupid idea (especially for someone who isn't really accustomed to being around guns, as you apparently aren't), and it's more likely to create physical danger and bottomless financial liability for you than it is to protect you. I am a gun owner and have been mugged at knifepoint, but I would never, ever want to carry on the city streets.
Actually a few years ago a member of the Glock Talk forum, which I used to frequent, was killed when he tried to intervene in a liquor store robbery - the reality is that the bad guys are almost invariably more willing to pull the trigger than you or I. If you're "lucky" enough to get off the first shot, say hello to nightmares, years of therapy, and spending your life savings on legal bills.
The only time I'd want to carry would be on a backpacking trip or something similar, where the risk comes not from would-be muggers but from animals, rapists, and killers. In that setting I'd carry openly.
And this is what we like to call a "scared victim".
Good job empowering criminals. Yeah, "gun owner", I bet. Airsoft and paintball do not count.
Good day to you.
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: DonVito
Can I ask why you want to carry in the first place? In general I think it's a stupid idea (especially for someone who isn't really accustomed to being around guns, as you apparently aren't), and it's more likely to create physical danger and bottomless financial liability for you than it is to protect you. I am a gun owner and have been mugged at knifepoint, but I would never, ever want to carry on the city streets.
Actually a few years ago a member of the Glock Talk forum, which I used to frequent, was killed when he tried to intervene in a liquor store robbery - the reality is that the bad guys are almost invariably more willing to pull the trigger than you or I. If you're "lucky" enough to get off the first shot, say hello to nightmares, years of therapy, and spending your life savings on legal bills.
The only time I'd want to carry would be on a backpacking trip or something similar, where the risk comes not from would-be muggers but from animals, rapists, and killers. In that setting I'd carry openly.
And this is what we like to call a "scared victim".
Good job empowering criminals. Yeah, "gun owner", I bet. Airsoft and paintball do not count.
Good day to you.