Optimizing case airflow and such...

TridenT

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Anyway, enough of that... Let's get on with the disastrous pictures!

Updated pictures... Case is cleaned, moved fan to side panel, and flipped PSU back up (Which is what I did originally, but others said, "No, you're doin' it wrong dumbass.")
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Do you have any suggestions or pictures you want me to take of?

My 4850s stay pretty high on idle and I want temperatures lower if I can... It's also a bit noisy because of the bad airflow/crampedness...

Thanks in advance.
 

zagood

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1. Be sure you're using the two front as intake, the rear and top as exhaust.
2. Are you using a side door fan? If not, add one.
3. Cut out the fan grills on the front and rear. Top and side too if you want, but you'll need to cover them with wire finger guards. Easiest with a dremel, but you can also use something like this. This will increase airflow and decrease noise.
4. Keep the front filter clean or remove completely.
 

theAnimal

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I think the fan on the PSU should be facing up since there is no intake vent on the bottom of the case.

Use some zip ties to clean up the cables.
 

zagood

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Originally posted by: theAnimal
I think the fan on the PSU should be facing up since there is no intake vent on the bottom of the case.

Use some zip ties to clean up the cables.

Good point on the PSU. I tried mine facing down in the 300 and it make the fan ramp up, that in itself may lower the noise.

At some point I'm going to flip it the other way again and cut a hole in the bottom - unfortunately there is some bracing that I'll have to cut around otherwise I would have done it already.
 

error8

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Originally posted by: TridenT


Do you have any suggestions or pictures you want me to take of?

Use a vacuum cleaner for those two intake dust filters every 2 days or so, if your room is full of dust like mine is. In one of your pictures is obvious that your filters are really blocking the air coming through them, being full of dust.
 

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1) If the case is about 3ft/1m off the ground it will be exposed to MUCH less dust.

2) Someone said something about zip-ties, that's something which will help with dust accumulation and general airflow.

3) Cleaning the filters and case frequently

4) Try pointing your top fan out so it exhausts air from the case. YMMV there as with my setup this caused temps to increase by 5C for the CPU and VGA, but seriously helped a friend's CPU. He has the same case as you.

5) Another poster mentioned flipping the PSU so the fan is pointed up; good idea there.

6) Aftermarket coolers for your HD4850's should be looked at, perhaps even one for just the top card to help dissapate localized heat pockets and eliminate thermal buildup.

7) You could place a fan on the side if you removed the one which comes with the Antec 300 from the factory. That fan was very useful with above-mentioned friend and his SLI setup. He has dual-slot coolers which exhaust out the rear for both videocards.

8) Purchase a different HSF, preferably a tower-style one with heatpipes and try dual fans. I have found that with an exhaust fan directly behind my Noctua setup there becomes a windtunnel of sorts which helps to establish a steady stream of air through the case.

9) Watercool the whole thing. $$$ but very effective/neato.

10) Purchase quieter fans. I enjoy the Scythe S-Flex fans and Noctua's, but many have had great success with Yate-Loon fans, Sanyo-Denki, or Scythe's Slipstream line of fans. Target RPM would probably be somewhere between 1000 to 1600 RPM, preferably closer to 1600 I'd think for temps. It won't be silent, but should be fairly muted if you stay within that range, and acoustically better with lower RPMs of course. Personally the fans I use are about 1200RPM and they have a low prescence which becomes background after a while. I notice them most once I turn the PC off obviously.

What budget are we looking at? As you can see there are many things with a wide range of prices from free to $$$.

BTW Since you have a fairly free-flowing case, it will scatter noise more readily and given that it is in a corner you also have the effect of this noise taking advantage of the acoustics of being in a corner and spreading out, becoming artificially louder. Moving it from the corner should help a bit.

EDIT: Pics of the side door on the case should help, as well as one with it off showing the fan blades. This will allow us to see which direction the air is flowing and where the fan is blowing the air to in the case. Bonus points if you use a laser pen to determine this and show us a diagram. The laser pen (when the side panel is on the case) can be traced along the edge of the fan blades to highlight the components inside the case, thereby showing where the air is flowing to within the case. You may need to rotate the fan as you do this.
 

geokilla

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Wasn't it better to have the top fine act as an intake? I remember seeing an article somewhere, on AnandTech I believe, where it said that having the top intake put cool air into the fan and added with the front intakes, all the cool air was directed to the exhaust and what not.
 

error8

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Originally posted by: geokilla
Wasn't it better to have the top fine act as an intake? I remember seeing an article somewhere, on AnandTech I believe, where it said that having the top intake put cool air into the fan and added with the front intakes, all the cool air was directed to the exhaust and what not.

No it isn't! Because hot air rises, being less denser then the surrounding cooler air,so you put the top fan to exhaust, to take that bad hot air outside as fast as possible. By putting the fan backwards, you force the hot air to spread out all over the case, heating up all the components in the process.
 

zagood

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you may want to replace that fan in the bottom front. Test it out first though and see how it reacts.

For those who say the PSU fan should be facing down - normally yes in a case that has a bottom-mount, but that case should have a bottom intake cutout (which the 300 doesn't have). In theory the space underneath the PSU on the 300 has enough room for the intake, but in my experience it's really not the best choice.

BTW - what setting do you have the Antec tri-cools at?
 

TridenT

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Originally posted by: zagood
you may want to replace that fan in the bottom front. Test it out first though and see how it reacts.

For those who say the PSU fan should be facing down - normally yes in a case that has a bottom-mount, but that case should have a bottom intake cutout (which the 300 doesn't have). In theory the space underneath the PSU on the 300 has enough room for the intake, but in my experience it's really not the best choice.

BTW - what setting do you have the Antec tri-cools at?

Typically they are on low. I believe they are all on low.

medium starts to create a low-pitch hum which can be annoying if you hear it.
 

TridenT

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Originally posted by: brblx
what's with the three sticks of memory?

One died. :( I still need to send it to Crucial for a new stick... Probably should do that today...