Opteron 170 = Pentium 4 @4 ghz?

[aboothman]

seriously...if you don't like his questions then dont read them anymore.

 

[imported_Seer]

Originally posted by: vertigofm
so in a dual core system with video games that dont utilize dual core... at 2ghz ur equal to a P4 3 ghz? Or do u have to take into account the other core taking the stress of the background stuff?

That obviously depends on how many background programs you have installed. You might get 1 or 2 fps with dual core when moving from clean to clean, but if you have alot of background processes etc., you may get more.

 

[Maximilian]

Originally posted by: aboothman
seriously...if you don't like his questions then dont read them anymore.

They were all answered accurately on the last page!!

 

[vertigofm]

Originally posted by: Soviet

Originally posted by: aboothman
seriously...if you don't like his questions then dont read them anymore.

They were all answered accurately on the last page!!

sometimes people like to get multiple opinions/clarifications for the same question

 

[aigomorla]

ROFL.... your hella funny... personally i dont know whats funnier... him asking funny questions like, is my 2.5ghz clocked as fast as a 6ghz p4,
or the fact he bought a opty 170 without knowing exactly what the heck it is.

 

[vertigofm]

Originally posted by: aigomorla
ROFL.... your hella funny... personally i dont know whats funnier... him asking funny questions like, is my 2.5ghz clocked as fast as a 6ghz p4,
or the fact he bought a opty 170 without knowing exactly what the heck it is.

I don't know what's more pathetic:

1. Using "ROFL" in a conversation
2. Saying "hella funny"
3. Or not remembering the famous saying, "He who asks a question may be a fool for five minutes. But he who never asks a question remains a fool forever"

It makes me mad when on a forum people discourage questions- a question no matter how dumb is still a question, knowledge comes through questioning. To you my question may be dumb, but to me... I have no experience with Athlons and my world is limited because I have only used Intels. I could have looked on google but such a question is most likely not answered in any reviews!

A forum is defined as A public meeting place for open discussion. Keep it that way, open discussion means not having to be afraid to post questions for fear that jerks will come along and laugh at them or ridicule them.

I know what the Opteron 170 is. It is a dual core processor that is practically identical to the X2 4000+ but the Opterons are used more in servers so because of the extensive stress they might go on a server- they tend to be made using higher grade silicon which is perhaps what enables it to overclock higher.

 

[robertk2012]

Originally posted by: vertigofm
So what would a good estimate of a 2.5 ghz dual core opteron be equal to a 6ghz p4?

Dual core 2.5 would be around 4.1 or so with the new pentium dual core (presler).

In a multithreaded program it would take a single core cpu of about 6 ghz (if one existed) to keep up.

Your learning. Just takes time. Ignore those act like your an idiot for asking quesitons. Im guilty myself at times.

 

[robertk2012]

Originally posted by: XBoxLPU

Originally posted by: vertigofm
So what would a good estimate of a 2.5 ghz dual core opteron be equal to a 6ghz p4?

Please stop posting

Nice contribution. i hope all your other posts werent like that. If so maybe you should stop posting.

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: vertigofm

Originally posted by: aigomorla
ROFL.... your hella funny... personally i dont know whats funnier... him asking funny questions like, is my 2.5ghz clocked as fast as a 6ghz p4,
or the fact he bought a opty 170 without knowing exactly what the heck it is.

I don't know what's more pathetic:

1. Using "ROFL" in a conversation
2. Saying "hella funny"
3. Or not remembering the famous saying, "He who asks a question may be a fool for five minutes. But he who never asks a question remains a fool forever"

It makes me mad when on a forum people discourage questions- a question no matter how dumb is still a question, knowledge comes through questioning. To you my question may be dumb, but to me... I have no experience with Athlons and my world is limited because I have only used Intels. I could have looked on google but such a question is most likely not answered in any reviews!

A forum is defined as A public meeting place for open discussion. Keep it that way, open discussion means not having to be afraid to post questions for fear that jerks will come along and laugh at them or ridicule them.

I know what the Opteron 170 is. It is a dual core processor that is practically identical to the X2 4000+ but the Opterons are used more in servers so because of the extensive stress they might go on a server- they tend to be made using higher grade silicon which is perhaps what enables it to overclock higher.

okey let me be frank. i dont bash, you can usually find me posting help solutions to people that need help. Quite honestly u made what i concider the most common and yet, simple mistake u can possibly make in technology. \ ALSO there is no such thing as a X2 4000. its 3800, 4200, 4400, 4800, FX-60

YOU BOUGHT SOMETHING WHERE YOU HAD NO IDEA ON WHAT IT WAS AND YOUR ASKING QUESTIONS THAT CAN BE ANSWERED IN 10SEC VIA GOOGLE.COM.

I honestly dont mind answering your techinical question, but simple questions that can be answered in searching though google and not getting a lame response is thinking too highly. Your post gave me a fairly good laugh, because it reminded me of how naive i once was.

Also, when people posted twice that its fair to 1.5x your AMD clock speed to get a relative p4 speed, then ask is my AMD as fast as a 6.0ghz right after, that really means ur here to gloat you have a opty 170.

Lastly, im really happy you bought a opty 170 there excellent chips, yet you probably have no clue on exactly what you bought. Maybe u should of asked before you bought one what it exactly is, done a little research and then built one. U should also check out robertk2012's post on the differences between a X2 and a Opty. Also, if you do hit over 2.8ghz on your opty, then congrats, but hitting 3.0 on air, is more likely a dream. And you said you would go water cooling, DO U HAVE ANY IDEA ON HOW TO SETUP A LIQUID COOLING KIT? Its not something u can just pull together and connect, each custom watercooling kit has its own characteristics and traits, if u have no clue on how to set one up, then you google and when u have any outside questions, then u ask, not the other way around.

Final note, when i built my system, each part was thoughly researched, and i spent countless hours of my free time researching on each part that would be the most cost effective, yet maintain the highest quality. The only part which i actually took a gamble and bought was the thermaltake TWV PSU. I know im going to get bashed on this, but my other systems all use seasonic, and i wanted a voltage meter on my computer so i can see exactly how much power my system uses. For those of u guys wondering, its a great PSU, and i can tell if something is wrong or running funny by the voltage my system is using overall. BTW its less then 215 overall with dual 6800GT's and both cores at 100%.

 

[axemanrio]

Sorry to intervene but I have a question related to this topic... how different (in performance) is the 170 from the 270?

I looked up AMD and the only documented differences are:

1. 170 is socket 939; 270 is socket 940
2. 170 scalability is 1-way and for 270 it says up to 2-way
3. HyperTransport Links (total/coherent): 170 is 3/0 and 270 is 3/1

I have no idea what all this means and if I buy a 270, I don't know which motherboard to look for (I prefer ASUS or DFI)... can someone shed some light on this question? Also, would a 265 perform better than a 170?

Thanks!

 

[axemanrio]

bump..

 

[Hard Ball]

Originally posted by: axemanrio
Sorry to intervene but I have a question related to this topic... how different (in performance) is the 170 from the 270?

I looked up AMD and the only documented differences are:

1. 170 is socket 939; 270 is socket 940

It is basically a pin out difference in the chip package; and the main reason why S939 came into being is because in 2004, AMD did not want Athlon64's, which have mem controller that can use non-registered DDR, to be confused with Opteron chips, which at that time only used registered ECC DDR.

2. 170 scalability is 1-way and for 270 it says up to 2-way
3. HyperTransport Links (total/coherent): 170 is 3/0 and 270 is 3/1

This is really the same question:
Long story short, Coherent HTT allows system resources shared over the link to be deemed equivalent (although latency will differ) by both sets of cores in each socket; so that all four cores in a dual 270 system, for example, will be able to effectively use the entire address space of memory connected to both sockets (NUMA), and has other effects such as in cache snoop. The Coherent HTT connects to the cross-bar in a slightly different way than regular HTT. And the presence of coherent HTT is also what enables the scalability of the number of sockets; one coherent HTT link means that each socket has the ability to link to one other socket, which will effectively limit the system to two sockets; other opteron chips with more coherent HTT links will have higher scalability. There are talks of Future Opterons having upto 6 coherent HTTs per package, allowing the system to have a octahedral arrangement of sockets.

I have no idea what all this means and if I buy a 270, I don't know which motherboard to look for (I prefer ASUS or DFI)... can someone shed some light on this question? Also, would a 265 perform better than a 170?

Thanks!

The advantage of the 2xx opterons is the ability to have more than one package in a system, or upto 4 cores per system for the S940 generation.