Opteron 165 or Athlon X2 3800+???

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robertk2012

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Who said the nex 3800s wont overclock well? They must be an idiot. You really cant go wrong with either one.


Originally posted by: Dark Cupcake
Well for people who say thats new 3800+ x2 dont overclock well, i can show them my 3800+ at 2.7 at stock voltage (well in fact slightly bellow stock 1.34v, mainboard voltage droop)

Cache is temporary storage for the cpu, and is only utilised to really hide the latency of getting instructions to the core from the memory and hdd and as well as for temporary storage of things that might be reused later, now if the cpu is not fast enough to process more instructions, larger cache wont make a diff if the core is already fully utilised. Needless to say up to a sertain clock speed having less cache wont matter appart from sertain situation where having larger tempory storage is important, i think past 3.0ghz 512 to 1024 cache will make a significant difference, just like past 2.0ghz 512 makes a significant difference over 256 cache.

Only problem with the 3800+ x2 is its heatsink is rather bad. If a new heatsink + 3800x2 is cheaper than 165 opty, meh then might as well get that, almost all 3800+ will hit 2.4ghz anyways, beyond that there is very limited gain in performance anyways.

 

robertk2012

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so for $25 you get a , better hsf, and more cache. You also also only get a 9x multiplier though.

Also this is from AMDs website

Although the AMD Opteron 100 Series processors with unbuffered memory support will share the same core technology as the AMD Athlon 64 and AMD Athlon 64 FX processors and will be socket and thermally compatible, there are some distinct differences:

* AMD Opteron 100 Series processors with ECC unbuffered memory all have 1MB of L2 cache.
* AMD Opteron 100 Series processors with ECC unbuffered memory are produced on AMD Opteron processor die material and follow the same AMD Opteron processor manufacturing process as do the 800 Series and 200 Series.
* AMD Opteron 100 Series processors with ECC unbuffered memory undergo the same AMD Opteron processor-level testing and validation as do the 800 Series and 200 Series.
 

EarthwormJim

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Originally posted by: robertk2012
so for $25 you get a , better hsf, and more cache. You also also only get a 9x multiplier though.

Also this is from AMDs website

Although the AMD Opteron 100 Series processors with unbuffered memory support will share the same core technology as the AMD Athlon 64 and AMD Athlon 64 FX processors and will be socket and thermally compatible, there are some distinct differences:

* AMD Opteron 100 Series processors with ECC unbuffered memory all have 1MB of L2 cache.
* AMD Opteron 100 Series processors with ECC unbuffered memory are produced on AMD Opteron processor die material and follow the same AMD Opteron processor manufacturing process as do the 800 Series and 200 Series.
* AMD Opteron 100 Series processors with ECC unbuffered memory undergo the same AMD Opteron processor-level testing and validation as do the 800 Series and 200 Series.


So for a few bucks more you get a higher quality processor?