Opteron 144 not so good With a Asus A8N-VM

[Fallengod]

Like I said in the first place. Its user error or your motherboard. Glad you got it worked out.

So all of you that blindly say"opteron rules" be careful cause on some micro mobo's thats not true.

Also, I do blindly say opterons rule. How do they not rule? They get FX speeds for a fraction of the cost on stock/low volts. Its the micro mobos that suck. Id reverse that and say, be carefull buying a micro mobo if you plan on ocing a good cpu....

 

[RobsTV]

Originally posted by: markkleb

So all of you that blindly say"opteron rules" be careful cause on some micro mobo's thats not true.

Before blindly stating warnings about something being bad, make sure you test more than one sample.
You have nothing to backup your comments.
One Opty 144 dud that could have been caused by many factors.
One 3700+ that could have been the best 3700+ on the planet.
Perhaps 2 or 3 more samples of each type would have changed your results.

 

[Shimmishim]

Originally posted by: markkleb
OK HERE IT IS!
FIRST- thanks Furballi, Aggressor and Buzzsaw 13 for the good info.

I took the 144 and put it with a ASUS A8V Deluxe and it OC'ed to 2.5 stable. So I will rephrase one of my origional posts "buyer beware" to " ALL MOBOS DONT OVERCLOCK EQUALLY WELL(even if their Asus)"
My micro Asus only allowed Fsb to be changed. The full size one had many changes including voltage.

I sold the opty to my customer and kept the 3700+ as it was able to oc to 2.53 on the Micro mb.

So all of you that blindly say"opteron rules" be careful cause on some micro mobo's thats not true.

well your last statement makes no sense.

its not the chips problem... it's the motherboards problem.

if anything you should be saying the asus microATX board sucks.

and most people that say opteron rules base it not on just one opteron they've owned.

there are many users here that have played with multiple chips and have had excellent results which would warrant them to say "opteron rules"

i don't think it's appropriate for you to make a statement such as opteron 144 not so good based on only 1 chip you've owned.

 

[markkleb]

Fot the last 2 replys obviously you didnt read my posts. My 3700+ oc'ed to 2553 with my asus A8N-VM board.
My 144 would not go over 1900 (ON THE ASUS MICRO BOARD)
The 144 did go to 2600 on the A8V Deluxe.
SO THE 144 IS FINE.
BEFORE YOU BLAME THE MICRO MOBO, WITH THE 3700+ IT WENT TO 2553MHZ(on the Asus A8N-VM)

THE PROBLEM IS WHAT I SAID IN MY ORIGIONAL POST, THE OPTY IS NOT AS GOOD AS THE 3700+!

 

[robertk2012]

well ill give you $100 fro it if it sucks that much.

 

[Shimmishim]

Originally posted by: markkleb
Fot the last 2 replys obviously you didnt read my posts. My 3700+ oc'ed to 2553 with my asus A8N-VM board.
My 144 would not go over 1900 (ON THE ASUS MICRO BOARD)
The 144 did go to 2600 on the A8V Deluxe.
SO THE 144 IS FINE.
BEFORE YOU BLAME THE MICRO MOBO, WITH THE 3700+ IT WENT TO 2553MHZ(on the Asus A8N-VM)

THE PROBLEM IS WHAT I SAID IN MY ORIGIONAL POST, THE OPTY IS NOT AS GOOD AS THE 3700+!

Yes. I did read your original post. Yes. I do understand your 3700+ hit 2553.

The point that RobsTV and I are trying to make is that it's NOT the chip that is at fault.

The question of the matter is... is it the opteron's fault that it doesn't overclock well on the Asus motherboard or is it the Asus motherboard's fault that the opteron doesn't overclock well?

From what I understand, it seems like it is the motherboard's fault that the opteron doesn't overclock well.

My apologies if I offended you by saying the Asus mATX mobo sucks. How about... the Asus mATX board sucks with opterons (but again, it's NOT the opterons fault nor does the opteron suck).


I think the thing that bothers people is your... "buyers beware" comment.

If you are saying buyers beware of the opteron + Asus mobo combination, then you are right (from your experience at least).

but...

If you are saying buyers beware of the opteron by itself because it doesn't overclock well compared to the 3700+ you have then you are wrong.

 

[Shimmishim]

Originally posted by: robertk2012
well ill give you $100 fro it if it sucks that much.

I'll give you $100.01

 

[markkleb]

I did mention that I sold it to a customer and on The Asus A8V ic oc'ed to 2600 easy.

the problem is many people come here for advise and are given blanket statements such as "Opteron is better than the 3700"

well I say NO WAY!

I will be the first to admit I have a lot to learn, but I was told Operator error, Bad CPU,Bad Mobo and none was true.

The Asus micro mobo just works BETTER with the 3700+ and the Opty 144 needed a very overclockable mobo.

And PS- I got $600 for the 144 and A8V and a Freezer cooler.(so no I wont take $100) LOL

 

[Shimmishim]

well if that's the case, you should edit your title to say...

Asus mATX board + opteron 144 = not so good...

at least this way people won't interpret what you are trying to say wrong....

edit:

you REALLY ripped someone off bad huh? $600 for that combo? wow... you could get that combo new for less than $400.

 

[markkleb]

I told you I have a lot to learn.

 

[Shimmishim]

Originally posted by: markkleb
I told you I have a lot to learn.

that's what these forums are for... to learn and to teach...

but at the same time, you also need to becareful with your wording...

one more thing...


the title should be A8N-VM, not A8V (since it did hit 2600 on the A8V).

 

[RobsTV]

Originally posted by: markkleb
I did mention that I sold it to a customer and on The Asus A8V ic oc'ed to 2600 easy.
.........
And PS- I got $600 for the 144 and A8V and a Freezer cooler.(so no I wont take $100) LOL

That is the true "Buyer Beware" warning. Be careful with this seller!

 

[robertk2012]

LOL OPTY 144S ARE BETTER THAN 3700S!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[markkleb]

LOL , Not if your mobo wont go over 240 FSB.
I will repeat for all those who are not understanding the ORIGIONAL POST..

My 144 wont go over 1900 (stable!) on the Asus A8N

The 3700+ goes to 2553 on the same mobo!

 

[markkleb]

I just got the Biostar Tforce 6100 mobo and It does have lots of adjustments to oc. It dosent have 4 sata but at least it has sata 2 and works well with the 4 gigs of mem. I know I probably shouldnt say this but it seems much better for a micro mobo than the Asus.
I got my 3700 up to 2750ghz so far. 11 x 250 at 1.69 volts (lets see how stable)