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mikeymikec

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I would love to know how many women I've made suffer compared to how many men those toxic women made miserable including I.

Hopefully, we'll get to have this little chitchat again on the Day of Judgement and we'll see I guess?

"There's worse people than me, and my attempts at spreading suffering sucked anyway", claims faithful follower of an all-loving God.
 

ch33zw1z

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"There's worse people than me, and my attempts at spreading suffering sucked anyway", claims faithful follower of an all-loving God.

It’s remarkable to find someone perpetuating religious perspectives such as this on a tech forum. Reminds me of my younger years in religion.
 

ch33zw1z

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So I could come here and expose to the world how many blind feminists live here? :p

By the way, it's looking like Blake Lively is going to be the first actress to ever get shot in the name of justice, judging by how many people she is pissing off with her lies and drama.

Wonder who the darling Luigi gonna be this time...

Very weird update here. And referencing Luigi like the situations is similar, well, isnt surprising coming from you at this point. Your perspective is seriously lacking a reality check.

The arrogance you display, holier than thou righteous, is a matter you should attend too. The root of this is pride, again.
 

nakedfrog

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I would love to know how many women I've made suffer compared to how many men those toxic women made miserable including I.

Hopefully, we'll get to have this little chitchat again on the Day of Judgement and we'll see I guess?
Oh, so I had a quick chat with god, and it turns out your failures with women are because you listened to Lucifer's whispers that guided you astray from all the babes he's been trying to send your way, and as a result you creeped them out. Sorry about your luck there, pal :(
Oh yeah, he also said that blaming all the evils of the world on women also comes from the whispers of Lucifer trying to make sure the world remains divided, and that we're meant to be equals as we were in the garden. Just an FYI.
 
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dlerious

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The devil is powerless and can do nothing other than whisper. And immature/empty/lame minds are most receptive to those evil suggestions. If there is suffering that exists because one human brought it on another due to the devil, then yes, it's part of God's plan. His way of judging who He wants in Paradise. That's why prophets, messengers and religion.
There must have been a whole lot of immature/empty/lame minds for the Spanish Inquisition to last for over 350 years.
 
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Oh, so I had a quick chat with god, and it turns out your failures with women are because you listened to Lucifer's whispers that guided you astray from all the babes he's been trying to send your way, and as a result you creeped them out. Sorry about your luck there, pal :(
Maybe. I wanted only one but a bunch of them came at me, all with cheerful faces and inviting eyes and it confused the hell out of me!

Oh yeah, he also said that blaming all the evils of the world on women also comes from the whispers of Lucifer trying to make sure the world remains divided, and that we're meant to be equals as we were in the garden. Just an FYI.
Not all the evils. Many evils, yes. And I guess it's fair to say that Lucifer would want me to hurt women. So sad to disappoint him that all I can do is bitch about them here :D
 

Moonbeam

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So it's more of a first cause problem for you then? Unfortunately there's no first cause problem for evolution that isn't present for a deity.
Don't see much in the way of an answer being provided to your question.... Can I ask you one? Is the reason you ask to challenge his religious belief because you believe the nature of his beliefs, and not so much that he is a believer, are self harming to him?
 

fskimospy

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Don't see much in the way of an answer being provided to your question.... Can I ask you one? Is the reason you ask to challenge his religious belief because you believe the nature of his beliefs, and not so much that he is a believer, are self harming to him?
It’s more annoyance about someone telling others they haven’t considered the evidence or whatever while ignoring significant issues with their own view.

Religion isn’t fundamentally based in reason and that’s fine. But just own that!
 

Moonbeam

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It’s more annoyance about someone telling others they haven’t considered the evidence or whatever while ignoring significant issues with their own view.

Religion isn’t fundamentally based in reason and that’s fine. But just own that!
I see. Thank you for your honest answer. While I can understand that reaction and agree with that sentiment, I did hope that I was right.

In my opinion the hope that people own opinions unprovable by reason is itself an irrational response because everything in our so called rationa, scientific, and anti- religious culture has become a minefield of put downs for ‘heretical’ belief.

It seems to me it is that very annoyance that makes people who have irrational beliefs they should be able to own up to and otherwise would become defensive instead when exposed to it. We create the paradoxical state of our inner world out of thin air thereby.

Not complaining. Just expressing what I see.
 
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Moonbeam

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Umm, you dont get it it seems. You havent provided anything new, in all this copy pasta. And you continue to operate on assumptions.

You just “know” a lot of things.

Some self reflection and personal growth might do you some good.
There seems to be s to be some confusion here. My experience is that if I say it you dismiss it so I used other’s words which you dismiss as not being mine. Also you say you want something new when I am a talking about a for of conscious awareness I have said many times is ancient. And I do know a massive amount because I know what you think you know you don’t know at all.

Looking for ways to help your with your dogmatic insistence to have feet of clay, I have been exploring the net for signs of real awareness and came across this:


There is probably some profound reason you won’t read it but I found it interesting as well as an accompanying link to psychology and mystical traditions.
 
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Moonbeam

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It’smore annoyance about someone telling others they haven’t considered the evidence or whatever while ignoring significant issues with their own view.

Religion isn’t fundamentally based in reason and that’s fine. But just own that!
PS: I do think that not owning it is self harming
 

ch33zw1z

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There seems to be s to be some confusion here. My experience is that if I say it you dismiss it so I used other’s words which you dismiss as not being mine.
Not really.
Also you say you want something new when I am a talking about a for of conscious awareness I have said many times is ancient.
No, i didnt say i want something new. You should probably just read the words as written. Give it a try.
And I do know a massive amount because I know what you think you know you don’t know at all.
Peak moonie.
Looking for ways to help your with your dogmatic insistence to have feet of clay, I have been exploring the net for signs of real awareness and came across this:

Define the following: dogmatic, feet, exploring, signs, awareness

Start with the accepted uses, then contextually here.

There is probably some profound reason you won’t read it but I found it interesting as well as an accompanying link to psychology and mystical traditions.

Link is interesting, but doesnt really say much. I did experience some humor while reading its description of modern life for the young seekers of enlightenment.
 
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sdifox

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I do but I believe God is behind it.
Intelligent Design is a very weak argument.

Look at the human body, it's a fucking mess. A all knowing, all powerful creator could not have possibly created the homo sapiens.

Also, if God created pigs, why do Jews and Muslims avoid eating it?
 
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Look at the human body, it's a fucking mess. A all knowing, all powerful creator could not have possibly created the homo sapiens.
Because the intention wasn't to create something perfect. It is our imperfection that compels us to achieve perfection.

Every human hates being a human whether they want to admit it or not. Religion gives them a way to be perfect (live forever, no waste products, eat sleep EFF forever without consequences etc.)


Also, if God created pigs, why do Jews and Muslims avoid eating it?
That animal was snuck onto Noah's ARK by Satan. That's why.
 

ch33zw1z

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Because the intention wasn't to create something perfect. It is our imperfection that compels us to achieve perfection.

Every human hates being a human whether they want to admit it or not. Religion gives them a way to be perfect (live forever, no waste products, eat sleep EFF forever without consequences etc.)



That animal was snuck onto Noah's ARK by Satan. That's why.

Who snuck the pigs onto the ark?
 
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Who snuck the pigs onto the ark?
I don't have all the answers. I have told all I know. I don't do this for a living. Not a pastor.

Even if incontrovertible evidence had been kept, do you think it would've survived when humans have such gems like the MAGA/repugnant/russianphile crowd hell bent on rewriting history by wiping out existing historical records?

The closest thing to the actual Bible we have today is the Ethiopian Orthodox Bible. I haven't read what it says about pigs.
 

sdifox

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Because the intention wasn't to create something perfect. It is our imperfection that compels us to achieve perfection.

Every human hates being a human whether they want to admit it or not. Religion gives them a way to be perfect (live forever, no waste products, eat sleep EFF forever without consequences etc.)



That animal was snuck onto Noah's ARK by Satan. That's why.
God created it all, including Satan. Thus it's his/her/its responsibility.

What kind of intelligent being would add the appendix to the human body?
 
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What kind of intelligent being would add the appendix to the human body?
The kind of intelligent Being who wants us to use our brains. There is wisdom behind every decision and it is our job to figure it out. If you haven't read the research, the appendix serves as a store of good microbes. It is not completely useless. Also, those with removed appendices are more prone to colorectal cancer.
 

ch33zw1z

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I don't have all the answers. I have told all I know. I don't do this for a living. Not a pastor.

Even if incontrovertible evidence had been kept, do you think it would've survived when humans have such gems like the MAGA/repugnant/russianphile crowd hell bent on rewriting history by wiping out existing historical records?

The closest thing to the actual Bible we have today is the Ethiopian Orthodox Bible. I haven't read what it says about pigs.
Oh well, you seemed so confident
 

sdifox

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The kind of intelligent Being who wants us to use our brains. There is wisdom behind every decision and it is our job to figure it out. If you haven't read the research, the appendix serves as a store of good microbes. It is not completely useless. Also, those with removed appendices are more prone to colorectal cancer.

LoL using your brain for a section of anatomy that serves no purpose?
 
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LoL using your brain for a section of anatomy that serves no purpose?
That's what you've been told by the medical establishment. So they can charge you for taking it out as a precaution and so you don't feel bad about it.

Even a single subatomic particle has purpose.
 
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Moonbeam

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It’s remarkable to find someone perpetuating religious perspectives such as this on a tech forum. Reminds me of my younger years in religion.
What's the similarity? Did you ever believe in an all loving god? I don't get it. Seems to me that if you believed in an all loving god you would have so moved by that faith you would have become all loving yourself and that would have made such a god real by the presence in the universe of at least one all loving being. What am I missing?
 

Fenixgoon

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That's what you've been told by the medical establishment. So they can charge you for taking it out as a precaution and so you don't feel bad about it.

Even a single subatomic particle has purpose.
It's only removed if it becomes a problem. I had mine removed preventatively, but that was because I was in the ER as a result of then-undiagnosed Crohn's disease.

Doctors do in fact want to help people. Yes, there are many who will perform unnecessary procedures. That's true of any profession. There are shady mechanics. Car salespeople are notorious for their questionable behavior. Chalk that up to capitalism as a system that rewards maximum extraction of resources from people and society