Opinion: Jordan Peterson has always been a crank

[ch33zw1z]

Your body. Existing. Not dying. Some people die. Maybe before you. Some people born before you may be alive after you are gone. Who is pulling the strings? You can use the excuse of genetic/environmental factors but nobody really knows when their time is coming. What is that supposed to evoke in you? Fear. Because you have limited time. OK, once you figure you have limited time, then it means that time is available for you to do something with your life. What will you do? Will you live your life arrogantly accepting "truths" from other atheists who arrogantly claim that there is no proof of God's existence or are you going to engage your own mind with this problem and try to solve it in your quiet moments of solitude and deliberation? Everyone is responsible for their own life. You can't just take the easy way out and claim things are because everyone (or in this case, some people) say that without providing evidence of their own. I believe there is a God and if you continue your lifepath pretending to ignore Him, you won't be able to argue with Him once your life ends. You were given a brain to precisely ponder on these things. I'm just a fellow traveler showing you the way. What you choose will become your everlasting destiny.

And pondering these things has produced multiple different religions, tons of gods, tons of devils, etc…its feelings all the way down for you.

 

[ch33zw1z]

What if evolution is God's way of tricking overconfident humans into believing they know better?

Peak pride is thinking you know the mind of god

Ps - pride is a sin in most religions we celebrate today

 

[igor_kavinski]

Peak pride is thinking you know the mind of god

I don't. You think if I knew, I would be piss poor? I would know exactly how to amass wealth and have a whole fab dedicated to churning out Pentium 4s nobody wants!

That's why I said, what if.

Again, food for thought. In those quiet moments.

 

[ch33zw1z]

I don't. You think if I knew, I would be piss poor? I would know exactly how to amass wealth and have a whole fab dedicated to churning out Pentium 4s nobody wants!

That's why I said, what if.

Again, food for thought. In those quiet moments.

Consult your preferred religious text for guidance. It will tell you what to think.

 

[igor_kavinski]

And pondering these things has produced multiple different religions, tons of gods, tons of devils, etc…its feelings all the way down for you.

But they have commonalities, no? What if the common stuff is the truth and the rest is man made?

 

[ch33zw1z]

But they have commonalities, no? What if the common stuff is the truth and the rest is man made?

What if its all man made and thats why theres commonalities.

What it theres many gods who have similar ideas and this similar texts?

What if what ifs are irrelevant to a supposedly religious person?

What if we can what if endless scenarios? Oh yea, we can.

Yawn.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Heres one: God ate celestial taco bell after a month long bender and farted so big it created the universe. This is called the big bang.

Since we dont need evidence to support conclusions, then im not wrong. It feels right, inside. You know?🤷‍♂️

 

[Pontius Dilate]

Sorry. Beg to disagree.

Search your feelings. Preferably some place that is deathly quiet. Maybe you will hear a voice calling you towards the truth. Maybe.

You have never read about NDEs of atheists about how they experienced something they couldn't explain as anything other than that they were in the presence of a Being made of the brightest light imaginable and then they were given a message to tell the world to be good and kind to each other and the atheists stopped being atheists?

Nothing to do with my feelings. Men created gods and then created all these rules and theories to explain why god isn't known by everyone, why different people know different gods, why god intercedes in some human affairs but not others, why some prophecies aren't fulfilled, why group A is correct and group B is wrong while group B says it is correct and group A is wrong, why some religious texts are the literal word of god and why some aren't and why they can be the same texts, why some stories are historical facts and others aren't and why they can be the same stories, why we can ignore some things in some texts but not others in those same texts which are all sourced from the same god-given rules, why some religious dogmas fundamentally change through history in coincidence with societal norms. Every seam, every crack, every gaping hole can be filled with more stories and more interpretations as to why it's just yet more proof of god's existence ad infinitum. Self-fulfilling, self-justifying.

If a respected, highly religious person in your chosen faith had a near death experience and came back telling everyone that they now know with certainty that there is no god and no afterlife, that death is just the end, would you change your religious beliefs, abandon the idea of god? I doubt it.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Nothing to do with my feelings. Men created gods and then created all these rules and theories to explain why god isn't known by everyone, why different people know different gods, why god intercedes in some human affairs but not others, why some prophecies aren't fulfilled, why group A is correct and group B is wrong while group B says it is correct and group A is wrong, why some religious texts are the literal word of god and why some aren't and why they can be the same texts, why some stories are historical facts and others aren't and why they can be the same stories, why we can ignore some things in some texts but not others in those same texts which are all sourced from the same god-given rules, why some religious dogmas fundamentally change through history in coincidence with societal norms. Every seam, every crack, every gaping hole can be filled with more stories and more interpretations as to why it's just yet more proof of god's existence ad infinitum. Self-fulfilling, self-justifying.

If a respected, highly religious person in your chosen faith had a near death experience and came back telling everyone that they now know with certainty that there is no god and no afterlife, that death is just the end, would you change your religious beliefs, abandon the idea of god? I doubt it.

At least, a thought provoking answer. Well done.

 

[dlerious]

Sorry. Beg to disagree.

Search your feelings. Preferably some place that is deathly quiet. Maybe you will hear a voice calling you towards the truth. Maybe.

You have never read about NDEs of atheists about how they experienced something they couldn't explain as anything other than that they were in the presence of a Being made of the brightest light imaginable and then they were given a message to tell the world to be good and kind to each other and the atheists stopped being atheists?

How do you know that voice doesn't belong to Satan? Doesn't Lucifer mean "light bringer" or "shining one"?

 

[nakedfrog]

Nope. It's a religious fact. Yes, people be mad and furious at me but that's what almost all religions say. Ever wonder why there isn't a woman prophet? You sure don't want your messenger getting seduced by the Devil, do you?

By the way, women say crap like men are evil. All they want is sex. I've been told by multiple women that they were the initiators of sexual behavior in their "friendship" and the guy was reluctant because obviously he was afraid of being labelled as someone who took advantage of a woman.



Answer to that is really simple. Do all women treat me the same?

My 44 years of life says big nope.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, tell me more about how feminism is toxic
How 'bout you take your patriarchy and shove it up your ass sideways. Feeble weak-ass men can't take responsibility for their own dick, it's always the evil women, FOH.

 

[igor_kavinski]

How do you know that voice doesn't belong to Satan? Doesn't Lucifer mean "light bringer" or "shining one"?

Why would Lucifer tell people to be kind to one another?

 

[igor_kavinski]

Feeble weak-ass men can't take responsibility for their own dick, it's always the evil women, FOH.

My dick hasn't been involved in any of my interactions with women. Maybe that's the problem. They WANTED my dick!

 

[ch33zw1z]

Why would Lucifer tell people to be kind to one another?

Why wouldnt he?

 

[igor_kavinski]

Why wouldnt he?

Because human suffering is what that useless being revels in. The saddest day in devil's life is when no human comes to any harm.

 

[mikeymikec]

Because human suffering is what that useless being revels in. The saddest day in devil's life is when no human comes to any harm.

If God commands you to love your neighbour and Satan commands you to spread human suffering, I'm pretty sure that means you're doing Satan's work with your misogyny.

 

[nakedfrog]

Because human suffering is what that useless being revels in. The saddest day in devil's life is when no human comes to any harm.

LOL, this is dumb, it's like you're a literal child. According to your mythology, your god is the architect of all human suffering and pins it all on the devil.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Because human suffering is what that useless being revels in. The saddest day in devil's life is when no human comes to any harm.

I submit the devil is very useful, see post above mine

 

[brycejones]

Nope. It's a religious fact.

This is a very funny statement

 

[igor_kavinski]

LOL, this is dumb, it's like you're a literal child. According to your mythology, your god is the architect of all human suffering and pins it all on the devil.

The devil is powerless and can do nothing other than whisper. And immature/empty/lame minds are most receptive to those evil suggestions. If there is suffering that exists because one human brought it on another due to the devil, then yes, it's part of God's plan. His way of judging who He wants in Paradise. That's why prophets, messengers and religion.

 

[igor_kavinski]

I'm pretty sure that means you're doing Satan's work with your misogyny.

I would love to know how many women I've made suffer compared to how many men those toxic women made miserable including I.

Hopefully, we'll get to have this little chitchat again on the Day of Judgement and we'll see I guess?

 

[ch33zw1z]

The devil is powerless and can do nothing other than whisper. And immature/empty/lame minds are most receptive to those evil suggestions. If there is suffering that exists because one human brought it on another due to the devil, then yes, it's part of God's plan. His way of judging who He wants in Paradise. That's why prophets, messengers and religion.

Right, so god is dictating suffering. Scapegoating it with the “devil”. Glad u agree

 

[ch33zw1z]

I would love to know how many women I've made suffer compared to how many men those toxic women made miserable including I.

Hopefully, we'll get to have this little chitchat again on the Day of Judgement and we'll see I guess?

Well, god ordained your suffering, so probably best to take it up with her.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Well, god ordained your suffering, so probably best to take it up with her.

So I could come here and expose to the world how many blind feminists live here?

By the way, it's looking like Blake Lively is going to be the first actress to ever get shot in the name of justice, judging by how many people she is pissing off with her lies and drama.

Wonder who the darling Luigi gonna be this time...

 

[ch33zw1z]

So I could come here and expose to the world how many blind feminists live here?

Who knows, again, your pride guides your assumptions.