Opinion: Jordan Peterson has always been a crank

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ch33zw1z

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Would you let me know what facts in there you are basing your opinion on?

My facts are based on watching Flaa's videos on an almost daily basis. She goes through any or all news articles she can find and whatever tips she gets from her readers. Blake was doing just fine before she filed the lawsuit. Then suddenly when Baldoni leaked his text messages with her, the public turned against her because what she had claimed was opposite from what the text messages revealed. At one point, Blake was breastfeeding in her trailer and invited Baldoni to come and discuss the script or something with her. Baldoni rightfully declined. I think he sensed a trap but that didn't stop Blake from claiming that he tried to look at her boobs.

Dont care about any of that nonsense.

Go to the wiki and start at the Complaints section, leads to an Updates, and then a Lawsuits section.

You seem to be basing your opinion on this particular saga on information you haven’t attempted to verify.

i mean, the dudes lawsuits are dismissed, and Lively’s most recent lawsuit is scheduled for March 2026
 

Pontius Dilate

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Feels somewhat appropriate that a thread about Jordan Peterson being a crank has devolved into one person ranting about how the feminists are aligning with the Jews to destroy his life and rule the world.

Petition to rename this thread: Blood Libel on the Moon Cycle.
 

Moonbeam

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He literally says it is "self evident" that the only reason to wear makeup is to "sexualize yourself." I didn't say he said there is anything wrong with it. I am challenging his direct claim that the only use for makeup is to sexualize oneself. Pull your head out of your ass.
I have no problem agreeing he said that.

I have a problem with people who have their heads so far up their asses that, faced with scientific facts behind human behaviors of which they were ignorant and also often find offensive and offensive to some stupid ego beliefs they cherish, like the puritanical notion that women are too innocent or pure to deign to wear makeup even unconsciously as a way to present themselves as more sexually appealing and for the purpose of obeisance to the norms of properly fulfilling one’s roll as a social climber in a psychologically immature and competitive society including the workplace, such that they will gang up in mass to attack viciously and without mercy anybody who says anything that might rock the mutually agreed upon mass delusions game they play and which they also call reality.

And because, like Peterson, I also have an esoteric view, in my case, that humanity is asleep due to unconscious motivations that demand it, I am all too familiar with bully tactics that follow it, but it happens I did not arrive at whatever self awareness I might possess without having paid dearly for it, and am thus, over the years, less and less bothered by such attempt at bullying. So when Peterson says something as an absolute and in the heat generated by repetitive attacks on his person as a person for having to audacity to state scientific facts and then slips into absolutes to defend a point, I don’t feel a need to jump down his throat like the gang rapist triggered on the left do when their cherished beliefs are no less defended than your average conservative bigot off the street will do. Get your head out of your ass and show some emotional intelligence. Being a little more charitable won’t kill you.
 
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i mean, the dudes lawsuits are dismissed, and Lively’s most recent lawsuit is scheduled for March 2026
That's because you are missing the background information.

The judge in the case has an insane conflict of interest. He is the brother of someone in the entertainment industry. He was PUT ON this case to support Blake. The billionaire's money at work.
 
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ch33zw1z

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That's because you are missing the background information.

The judge in the case has an insane conflict of interest. He is the brother of someone in the entertainment industry. He was PUT ON this case to support Blake. The billionaire's money at work.

Ok, so go ahead and provide evidence of bias.
 
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one person ranting about how the feminists are aligning with the Jews to destroy his life and rule the world.
Not entirely accurate. The billionaire is supporting Blake because Ryan Reynolds and his Deadpool franchise is important to him. It was revealed in one of Flaa's videos that Ryan's company took on the promotion for the movie "It Ends with Us" and did a horrible job at it. To cover up that failure, Ryan made up a letter for Baldoni to sign which basically said that everything was Baldoni's fault. Baldoni refused to sign it. Ryan told his bitch to go after Baldoni.
 

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Not entirely accurate. The billionaire is supporting Blake because Ryan Reynolds and his Deadpool franchise is important to him. It was revealed in one of Flaa's videos that Ryan's company took on the promotion for the movie "It Ends with Us" and did a horrible job at it. To cover up that failure, Ryan made up a letter for Baldoni to sign which basically said that everything was Baldoni's fault. Baldoni refused to sign it. Ryan told his bitch to go after Baldoni.

Is this Baldoni guy a close relative of yours? Because otherwise I just can't see why you care about any of this.
 
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Ok, so go ahead and provide evidence of bias.
It's a complicated case and I'm not about to go on Flaa's channel, copy the transcripts of her relevant videos and then find you evidence from those. And her channel could get cancelled by Google at any time in the near future if Google receives a threatening enough legal letter from Blake's lawyers.

An example of what Blake tried to do: Her lawyers threatened Taylor Swift that Blake would release 10 years of text messages with Swift if she didn't support her publicly. Swift's dad called up Baldoni's lawyer who then strategically leaked the info to the public.
 
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Is this Baldoni guy a close relative of yours? Because otherwise I just can't see why you care about any of this.
I care about the truth and I can relate to a bitch falsely accusing a poor guy of things he never did.
 

ch33zw1z

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It's a complicated case and I'm not about to go on Flaa's channel, copy the transcripts of her relevant videos and then find you evidence from those. And her channel could get cancelled by Google at any time in the near future if Google receives a threatening enough legal letter from Blake's lawyers.

An example of what Blake tried to do: Her lawyers threatened Taylor Swift that Blake would release 10 years of text messages with Swift if she didn't support her publicly. Swift's dad called up Baldoni's lawyer who then strategically leaked the info to the public.

Ok, im bored with this. Im not going to continue to engage if you’re just going to continue a tabloid-esque discussion, where just saying things makes it “true”.

All of this, ALL of it, is irrelevant to where we started.

Be more critical of the information youre ingesting. The internet preys on ez targets.
 

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I care about the truth and I can relate to a bitch falsely accusing a poor guy of things he never did.
How can you relate to that? You haven’t provided any evidence of such a thing actually happening to you. Just vague speculation that all the women in the office are out to get you.
 

mikeymikec

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Let me see if I have @igor_kavinski 's logic right:

Faith healers have been rallying against women and everyone else for centuries because of <checks notes> feminism.

Women shouldn't be allowed in positions of power because of <checks notes> feminism / false rape allegations.

Also: "Because stupid women who can do harm ride feminism to get in power."

I'm just curious, is the notion that a woman should ever get in a position of power like say being the premier of a country is deeply disturbing to you @igor_kavinski ?
 

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You got the hagiography right on the money. This post is dripping with your idolization of and self-identification with JP.

Also, good use of the word boobery, I do like that.
It just caused you to drip that opinion. I am deeply interested in very similar things so I look for what he can tell me that might add to my knowledge of things, unlike people so triggered previously by reports of others that he is a Nazi menace that they listen only for evidence that confirms their opinion and later join the gang bangers indulging in sadistic behaviors. Glad to hear, though, you know my thinking. You used to complain i made such unwarranted things.
 
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It just caused you to drip that opinion. I am deeply interested in very similar things so I look for what he can tell me that might add to my knowledge of things, unlike people so triggered previously by reports of others that he is a Nazi menace that they listen only for evidence that confirms their opinion and later join the gang bangers indulging in sadistic behaviors. Glad to hear, though, you know my thinking. You used to complain i made such unwarranted things.

Classic “do as i say, not as i do” behavior controls.
 

ch33zw1z

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Only if she is a certified bitch.

My ex-boss is female and I'm still in contact with her. She has never intentionally harmed me.

I see, so youve had personal dealings with Blake Lively that provides the same anecdotal evidence to support your opinion?
 
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How can you relate to that? You haven’t provided any evidence of such a thing actually happening to you. Just vague speculation that all the women in the office are out to get you.
How can I provide evidence of that lawyer bitch influencing the management of her group of companies into preventing me from accessing that private elevator? I connected the dots and that was the conclusion I reached. How do you explain almost 8 years of using that elevator and sharing it with many high ranking much better paid people than I and the elevator gets a keypad less than a month after I endure her "he could've taken the stairs" joke?
 
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mikeymikec

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Only if she is a certified bitch.

Sorry, not buying it.

This is what I wrote:
me said:
Faith leaders have been spewing this shit for centuries, the world has been run almost exclusively by men for centuries, and the same old shit these conservatives spew barely changes. It's the womens' fault. Or foreigners. Or left-handed people. Or LGBTQ. Or those who follow their rabbit god when they should follow our duck god. If they weren't so insanely afraid of people who aren't them, the world would be a far more healthy place.

This is what you responded with:

Because stupid women who can do harm ride feminism to get in power.

And then you started ranting about Blake Lively, as if she or feminism is somehow relevant to "faith healers have been spewing this shit for centuries".
 

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I have no problem agreeing he said that.

I have a problem with people who have their heads so far up their asses that, faced with scientific facts behind human behaviors of which they were ignorant and also often find offensive and offensive to some stupid ego beliefs they cherish, like the puritanical notion that women are too innocent or pure to deign to wear makeup even unconsciously as a way to present themselves as more sexually appealing and for the purpose of obeisance to the norms of properly fulfilling one’s roll as a social climber in a psychologically immature and competitive society including the workplace, such that they will gang up in mass to attack viciously and without mercy anybody who says anything that might rock the mutually agreed upon mass delusions game they play and which they also call reality.

And because, like Peterson, I also have an esoteric view, in my case, that humanity is asleep due to unconscious motivations that demand it, I am all too familiar with bully tactics that follow it, but it happens I did not arrive at whatever self awareness I might possess without having paid dearly for it, and am thus, over the years, less and less bothered by such attempt at bullying. So when Peterson says something as an absolute and in the heat generated by repetitive attacks on his person as a person for having to audacity to state scientific facts and then slips into absolutes to defend a point, I don’t feel a need to jump down his throat like the gang rapist triggered on the left do when their cherished beliefs are no less defended than your average conservative bigot off the street will do. Get your head out of your ass and show some emotional intelligence. Being a little more charitable won’t kill you.
You see this is where you and I differ. I suppose that like me, you already knew the history of makeup and that yes in fact at least part of the motivation was to mimic sexual arousal blood flow to lips and cheeks. Already knowing that, when I watched that clip of him bringing it up, I identified with his opponent. His opponent, like me, was not taken aback by the fact that makeup was used that way, but by the fact that JP was claiming it is ONLY used that way. JP, like you, mistook his opponent's disgust as a sign that he didn't already know this fact and was experiencing the dissonance when someone meets an uncomfortable fact, when the disgust was actually for JP's completely asinine conclusion that it is the only use for makeup. We can see that you also thought that way by the pages and pages of your posts arguing the fact that yes indeed makeup was and is used that way but totally missing the actual point that JP's conclusion was 100% bullshit.