Operation Wisconsin: Anonymous targets Koch brothers

[Steeplerot]

shouldn't also look at soros and buffet if they really are concerned with money in politics...

Like people have said no one cares if it is a private individual, but if someone is being underhanded by setting up false operations to deceive people into working against their best interests for personal gain then it's IS a big problem.

You are ideologically immature CaD, you have no compass as far as responsible capitalism obviously.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Like people have said no one cares if it is a private individual, but if someone is being underhanded by setting up false operations to deceive people into working against their best interests for personal gain then it's IS a big problem.

Ah, so in other words - if they don't agree with you... figured as much.

 

[Phokus]

What is your point? They are obviously an organization. You like them because they do things you agree with, even though those things are illegal. Once again I doubt you would support them if they were doing illegal things in the name of conservative causes.

What's my point? Well, for one thing, Anonymous really isn't 'liberal', but they attack organizations and individuals that do harm to society, but you view those attacks as being 'liberal. What 'conservative' things could they do? Big corporations don't need anymore help, they have complete control of our government. Yes, they do illegal things, but illegal != morally wrong. In the case of the HBGary hack, Anonymous revealed possible plans of extortion on journalists like Greenwald


Also, the fact that you think Anonymous is an organization means you don't quite get what Anonymous is.

 

[Phokus]

Serious question, cause I haven't heard anyone answer it yet...what does the WI stuff have to do with corporations? People keep bringing it up.

BTW, I hate am opposed to corporatists just as much or even more than government unions.

I had my own views before I even heard of the koch brothers or the tea party even existed (which I am not a member of and never intend to be)

Well, the Koch brothers are billionaire owners of Koch Industries, are they not? And they finance astroturf organizations, do they not? And they obviously have great influence on the governer (as revealed this week), do they not?

 

[Infohawk]

What's my point? Well, for one thing, Anonymous really isn't 'liberal', but they attack organizations and individuals that do harm to society, but you view those attacks as being 'liberal. What 'conservative' things could they do? Big corporations don't need anymore help, they have complete control of our government. Yes, they do illegal things, but illegal != morally wrong. In the case of the HBGary hack, Anonymous revealed possible plans of extortion on journalists like Greenwald


Also, the fact that you think Anonymous is an organization means you don't quite get what Anonymous is.

Anonymous is an organization even though it tries to pass itself off as some meta movement of people that cannot be tracked.

So basically it sounds like you admit that you support illegal organizations as long as they have agendas that are aligned with yours. Do you understand how a democracy works? Sometimes it means not getting what you want.

 

[Steeplerot]

Ah, so in other words - if they don't agree with you... figured as much.

Such a poor troll you are. Well yeah CaD, how often do you beat your wife? *snooze*

 

[Steeplerot]

Do you understand how a democracy works? Sometimes it means not getting what you want.

There is nothing Democratic about what Koch is up to. Actually it is the opposite, so in situations like this, I will always take the high road. Koch would be found guilty of conspiracy if this was true. Which would make anon whistle-blowers. A informed public is the foundation and glue of Democracy.

About time someone started flipping the lights on so we can watch the Kochroaches scatter that are pilfering our treasury and leaving their turds in our vital national debate.

 

[Phokus]

Anonymous is an organization even though it tries to pass itself off as some meta movement of people that cannot be tracked.

So basically it sounds like you admit that you support illegal organizations as long as they have agendas that are aligned with yours. Do you understand how a democracy works? Sometimes it means not getting what you want.

It's not a Democracy when there's no transparency and corporations control our government. IIRC, you're a libertarian, right? If anything, Anonymous should be supported for the their support for wikileaks. "Not getting what you want" means something like me not liking the current tax rates. When governments and corporations are doing bad things behind closed doors without our knowledge, this is the only way to get recourse

But yeah, again, anonymous isn't an 'organization' in any sense of the word.

 

[Lanyap]

Wow.

This could get interesting...

That's what I thought.

Let's Get Ready To Rumble!!

Elite Hackers vs Conservative Billionaires.

Next up, Freepers vs Soros.

 

[Steeplerot]

Next up, Freepers vs Soros.

The only winner I can see there would be the geritol and depends undergarment companies, I guess we could stimulate the economy with a massive wheelchair building work program for unemployed 'baggers.

 

[bamacre]

Soros and Buffet and trying to fuck over regular Americans. Why on earth would Anonymous go after them.

Buffet aint helping...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/11/warren-buffett-too-big-to-fail_n_821814.html

Soros is a fucking hypocrite. He's out there selling inflation, but when he gets back into his office, he's protecting himself from it.

 

[Craig234]

Anonymous really isn't an organization. What do you mean, 'get their way'? Their HBGary hack revealed a conspiracy by BOA and other nefarious organizations in targetting civil rights journalists like Glenn Greenwald, amongst others.

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/02/11/campaigns/index.html

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/02/15/palantir/index.html

Thanks for the good links. Here's another Greenwald links to as the best story:

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/02/spy/

 

[OutHouse]

Anonymous is just an organization of people with a certain viewpoint who resort to illegal tactics when they don't get their way. Would the same people be such big supporters if they were attacking Islamic groups or Planned Parenthood? I doubt it.

I think our democracy can handle this legitimate dispute in Wisconsin by political means.

exactly. they are going to start getting cocky and start fucking with the wrong people.

 

[Craig234]

Serious question, cause I haven't heard anyone answer it yet...what does the WI stuff have to do with corporations? People keep bringing it up.

BTW, I hate am opposed to corporatists just as much or even more than government unions.

I had my own views before I even heard of the koch brothers or the tea party even existed (which I am not a member of and never intend to be)

Simply, the corporatist agenda is allied with right-wing warriors like Walker, and the corporatist agenda is at war with entities like unions.

Not only the direct issue - unions raising workers from disposable impoverished cattle to better paid middle class that costs them money - but this is a political war aimed at destroying the Democrats' #1 source of funding, so that the corporatists' party - the Republicans - can have more and more of a monopoly on political power.

As I said before, look at things like the K Street project, created when Bush was elected to sell the federal government to donors and punish anyone who donated Democrats.

That gives you an idea the type of things they'll do for more power.

You are right to be concerned about the corporatocracy - it's ultimately at odds with democracy, and it corrupts our democracy in the meantime.

It has huge conflicts of interest with the American citizen not to mention the people of the world - if you want to support what's good for people, you would oppose its excesses.

This does not mean 'hate corporations', it means hate the EXCESSES - too big to fail, infiltration of government, pushing policies that benefit them at public expense wrongly etc.

 

[Craig234]

exactly. they are going to start getting cocky and start fucking with the wrong people.

They should respect our overlords and say the Emperor has BEAUTIFUL new clothes. They'd be idiots to stand up for any interests of the people against powerful corruption.

You are a great American, to call for serving corrupt power and not standing up for any principles and good for people.

You are hereby promoted to Corporal Sheep for your diligent service to corrupt power.

How disgusting. Why don't you go watch 'The most dangerous man in America'?