Operation Swarmer is a ruse!

[conjur]

Watching some highlights of the "major operation" on the local news. The reporter was saying little resistance was encountered.

Some military commander was giving a press conference and saying that "we found what we expected to find".
Troop levels for the operation have already been reduced and it's expected to wrap up in a few days.

Now, add in that NO independent media were allowed and the writing is on the wall:

The operation near Samarra was NOT about rounding up insurgents. It was touted as being Iraqi-led but it was US hardware being used. No resistance encountered but they found what they expected to find? I'm sure they did.


This is a PLOY! It's a RUSE!


The GOP and the M$M will now start touting this as PROOF that not only are the Iraqi security forces gaining ground in their training but that the insurgency is weakening and the US is WINNING!


Anything to boost those sagging poll numbers.


And this isn't the first time this administration played politics with military operations. The assault on Falluja was held off until a week after the general election in 2004.

 

[spunkz]

it's true and it's working, too.

 

[GoPackGo]

Between 1984 and THX-1138 those two movies should give you a clue as to where we are at/heading.

Phantom Menace anyone?

 

[palehorse]

you guys MUST click the link in my sig...quickly! before they come for you!

ahhhhhhhhHHHH....

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Yea, right horsey. This was the best military action since D-Day. Ironic that it occured so close to the anniversary of the war. I keep forgetting that you are/were a member of the secret monkey andriod brigade.

 

[Starbuck1975]

The GOP and the M$M will now start touting this as PROOF that not only are the Iraqi security forces gaining ground in their training but that the insurgency is weakening and the US is WINNING!

The flip side to that coin is creating the perception that Iraqi Security forces are capable of performing such missions...this could have been one large scale training exercise, with the understanding that resistance would be minimal, with the added bonus of finding and eliminating a few insurgent weapons caches.

We need to be doing more of this...getting Iraqi security forces engaged with the insurgency, and ultimately providing them with the confidence to maintain some semblance of stability in Iraq.

Anything to boost those sagging poll numbers.

I would agree with you if Bush were up for re-election this year, but he is not...at this point, his legacy is essentialy non-existant...those Republicans facing re-election this year will more likely then not distance themselves from Bush in the coming months, so PR move military operations are not really helping or fooling anyone.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

He's not up for re-election but alot repugs are in 06, and they need dumbya to have better than a 33% approval rate.

 

[CaptnKirk]

Bait and Switch.

Grab the headlines until the facts get out.

 

[rickn]

Originally posted by: conjur
Watching some highlights of the "major operation" on the local news. The reporter was saying little resistance was encountered.

Some military commander was giving a press conference and saying that "we found what we expected to find".
Troop levels for the operation have already been reduced and it's expected to wrap up in a few days.

Now, add in that NO independent media were allowed and the writing is on the wall:

The operation near Samarra was NOT about rounding up insurgents. It was touted as being Iraqi-led but it was US hardware being used. No resistance encountered but they found what they expected to find? I'm sure they did.


This is a PLOY! It's a RUSE!


The GOP and the M$M will now start touting this as PROOF that not only are the Iraqi security forces gaining ground in their training but that the insurgency is weakening and the US is WINNING!


Anything to boost those sagging poll numbers.


And this isn't the first time this administration played politics with military operations. The assault on Falluja was held off until a week after the general election in 2004.

you know that old saying, a suckers born every minute. you can start rallying them right here on AT P&N

 

[Lemon law]

The question that seems unanswered is how may inncoent civilians were killed and how much property damage was caused?

And just as the newly elected legislature first met. Maybe this swarmer thing is a hidden message to them-----get a government up and running so it can tell the US to go home before it kills everyone and
prevents any brick from standing on a brick in the entire country.

Your doing a hecka of a job rummy.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: spunkz
it's true and it's working, too.

Attack and assault aircraft were providing "aerial weapons support" for 1,500 US and Iraqi commandos were moving in to clear "a suspected insurgent operating area north-east of Samarra".

...

They detained 48 people, of whom 17 were freed without delay. Officials said they did not believe they had captured any significant insurgent leaders.

"Any leaders there must have seen the forces coming and escaped," said one senior Iraqi security source.

By the middle of Day Two, the operation had already been scaled down to 900 men.

"must have seen the forces coming and escaped"

AH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

 

[feralkid]

Originally posted by: palehorse74
you guys MUST click the link in my sig...quickly! before they come for you!

ahhhhhhhhHHHH....

I'm afraid if i clicked your sig, I'd have to soak my mouse in lysol for a week.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: spunkz
it's true and it's working, too.

Attack and assault aircraft were providing "aerial weapons support" for 1,500 US and Iraqi commandos were moving in to clear "a suspected insurgent operating area north-east of Samarra".

...

They detained 48 people, of whom 17 were freed without delay. Officials said they did not believe they had captured any significant insurgent leaders.

"Any leaders there must have seen the forces coming and escaped," said one senior Iraqi security source.

By the middle of Day Two, the operation had already been scaled down to 900 men.

"must have seen the forces coming and escaped"

AH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

so it's funny to you to hear of the enemy successfully getting away from our forces? The fact that each of the insurgents who did so will live to see another day and another opportunity to kill us is fvcking funny to you!?

that's an all-time low there Conjie, even for you...

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: palehorse74


so it's funny to you to hear of the enemy successfully getting away from our forces? The fact that each of the insurgents who did so will live to see another day and another opportunity to kill us is fvcking funny to you!?

that's an all-time low there Conjie, even for you...

Drama queen alert, oh noes, not duh twoops!

Yeah, good for them, bring our guys home and let these people do something more productive with their lives then have to fight the us in some greedy assed war.

Like maybe raise familys and go about being iraqis instead of some idiotic catchword for some bloodthirsty twit across the world named palehorse.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: spunkz
it's true and it's working, too.

Attack and assault aircraft were providing "aerial weapons support" for 1,500 US and Iraqi commandos were moving in to clear "a suspected insurgent operating area north-east of Samarra".

...

They detained 48 people, of whom 17 were freed without delay. Officials said they did not believe they had captured any significant insurgent leaders.

"Any leaders there must have seen the forces coming and escaped," said one senior Iraqi security source.

By the middle of Day Two, the operation had already been scaled down to 900 men.

"must have seen the forces coming and escaped"

AH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

so it's funny to you to hear of the enemy successfully getting away from our forces? The fact that each of the insurgents who did so will live to see another day and another opportunity to kill us is fvcking funny to you!?

that's an all-time low there Conjie, even for you...

Uh, palehorse? There has to *be* an enemy there in the first place!

Damn, son. Stop playing so much Counterstrike. It's fried your brain.

 

[palehorse]

I don't know about you, but I tend to prefer AAR's that include "no casualties"... not to mention that it's impressive to hear of 800 Iraqi soldiers taking part. But hey, i'm biased, right?

yeah, keep laughing at our expense...

 

[CycloWizard]

Originally posted by: conjur
Watching some highlights of the "major operation" on the local news. The reporter was saying little resistance was encountered.

Some military commander was giving a press conference and saying that "we found what we expected to find".
Troop levels for the operation have already been reduced and it's expected to wrap up in a few days.

Now, add in that NO independent media were allowed and the writing is on the wall:

The operation near Samarra was NOT about rounding up insurgents. It was touted as being Iraqi-led but it was US hardware being used. No resistance encountered but they found what they expected to find? I'm sure they did.

This is a PLOY! It's a RUSE!

The GOP and the M$M will now start touting this as PROOF that not only are the Iraqi security forces gaining ground in their training but that the insurgency is weakening and the US is WINNING!

Anything to boost those sagging poll numbers.

And this isn't the first time this administration played politics with military operations. The assault on Falluja was held off until a week after the general election in 2004.

Hardly the administration playing politics. It's just that the media people who picked up the story were as ignorant as you about the meaning of the term 'air assault.'

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: palehorse74
I don't know about you, but I tend to prefer AAR's that include "no casualties"... not to mention that it's impressive to hear of 800 Iraqi soldiers taking part. But hey, i'm biased, right?

yeah, keep laughing at our expense...

bush and cheneys greedy little war does not = "ours", get a grip.

If you would like to help them go for it, you know where to sign back up I assume.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Originally posted by: CycloWizard

Originally posted by: conjur
Watching some highlights of the "major operation" on the local news. The reporter was saying little resistance was encountered.

Some military commander was giving a press conference and saying that "we found what we expected to find".
Troop levels for the operation have already been reduced and it's expected to wrap up in a few days.

Now, add in that NO independent media were allowed and the writing is on the wall:

The operation near Samarra was NOT about rounding up insurgents. It was touted as being Iraqi-led but it was US hardware being used. No resistance encountered but they found what they expected to find? I'm sure they did.

This is a PLOY! It's a RUSE!

The GOP and the M$M will now start touting this as PROOF that not only are the Iraqi security forces gaining ground in their training but that the insurgency is weakening and the US is WINNING!

Anything to boost those sagging poll numbers.

And this isn't the first time this administration played politics with military operations. The assault on Falluja was held off until a week after the general election in 2004.

Hardly the administration playing politics. It's just that the media people who picked up the story were as ignorant as you about the meaning of the term 'air assault.'

Really? Then why would the army allow all the media coverage, and take footage of the helicopters, etc. I'm sure it's just the liberal media being ignorant.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: CycloWizard

Originally posted by: conjur
Watching some highlights of the "major operation" on the local news. The reporter was saying little resistance was encountered.

Some military commander was giving a press conference and saying that "we found what we expected to find".
Troop levels for the operation have already been reduced and it's expected to wrap up in a few days.

Now, add in that NO independent media were allowed and the writing is on the wall:

The operation near Samarra was NOT about rounding up insurgents. It was touted as being Iraqi-led but it was US hardware being used. No resistance encountered but they found what they expected to find? I'm sure they did.

This is a PLOY! It's a RUSE!

The GOP and the M$M will now start touting this as PROOF that not only are the Iraqi security forces gaining ground in their training but that the insurgency is weakening and the US is WINNING!

Anything to boost those sagging poll numbers.

And this isn't the first time this administration played politics with military operations. The assault on Falluja was held off until a week after the general election in 2004.

Hardly the administration playing politics. It's just that the media people who picked up the story were as ignorant as you about the meaning of the term 'air assault.'

Uhh...hunh? Did I miss something here? I don't know what an air assault is?

BTW, the M$M was only running with what it was told by the Pentagon and the White House. There was NO independent media involved. Only military cameras were on the "operation".

 

[Starbuck1975]

He's not up for re-election but alot repugs are in 06, and they need dumbya to have better than a 33% approval rate.

Not necessarily...a large number of Republican incumbents are running for re-election in regions that will vote Republican regardless of the President's approval rating.

There are only a handful of districts and states that pose a "close" race, and in those instances, the strength of each candidate's respective platform will take precedence over Presidential polls.

 

[Ldir]

Originally posted by: CycloWizard

Originally posted by: conjur
Watching some highlights of the "major operation" on the local news. The reporter was saying little resistance was encountered.

Some military commander was giving a press conference and saying that "we found what we expected to find".
Troop levels for the operation have already been reduced and it's expected to wrap up in a few days.

Now, add in that NO independent media were allowed and the writing is on the wall:

The operation near Samarra was NOT about rounding up insurgents. It was touted as being Iraqi-led but it was US hardware being used. No resistance encountered but they found what they expected to find? I'm sure they did.

This is a PLOY! It's a RUSE!

The GOP and the M$M will now start touting this as PROOF that not only are the Iraqi security forces gaining ground in their training but that the insurgency is weakening and the US is WINNING!

Anything to boost those sagging poll numbers.

And this isn't the first time this administration played politics with military operations. The assault on Falluja was held off until a week after the general election in 2004.

Hardly the administration playing politics. It's just that the media people who picked up the story were as ignorant as you about the meaning of the term 'air assault.'

Of course they are playing politics. Who told the media this was the biggest operation since the invasion? The government. It sounds more like the biggest staged media event.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: palehorse74
I don't know about you, but I tend to prefer AAR's that include "no casualties"... not to mention that it's impressive to hear of 800 Iraqi soldiers taking part. But hey, i'm biased, right?

yeah, keep laughing at our expense...

bush and cheneys greedy little war does not = "ours", get a grip.

If you would like to help them go for it, you know where to sign back up I assume.

I'm still in... and have been since 2003 (and 1991-1998 before that). I went over there from 2004-2005, and will be leaving late next month for another 21month deployment. so ya, the war is "ours" from my point of view... and trust me, I definately have a "grip"!

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Ldir
Of course they are playing politics. Who told the media this was the biggest operation since the invasion? The government. It sounds more like the biggest staged media event.

Wait till you see the NBC video. I caught some of it from my local NBC affiliate at lunch today.

Pretty damn pathetic.


The only thing missing was that Victoria chick, you know the one, the Pentagon's chief catapaulter next to DiRita.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Ldir
Of course they are playing politics. Who told the media this was the biggest operation since the invasion? The government. It sounds more like the biggest staged media event.

Wait till you see the NBC video. I caught some of it from my local NBC affiliate at lunch today.

Pretty damn pathetic.

in what way?