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Opera 10.5 released

Chiefcrowe

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FYI i just saw it came out, you can download from their site.

seems pretty nice from testing it out a little bit!
 
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Anubis

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its funny it isnt showing up on the "Check for update" from withing opera yet

first thing ive noticed is they removed the options menu bar you know with File and Edit on it by default
 
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bruceb

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Yes, and one computer I was unable to find it and turn it back on. So back to prior version on that computer. The installer should have left all the user's current options as they were (as it usually does) If I want to turn an option ON or OFF that should be my Choice.
 

bruceb

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And just WHERE in the instructions does it say anything about using ALT ? ?
What is this now, a guessing game to find the OPTIONS ? ?
 

Anubis

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FWIW hitting ALT has brought up the menu bar or taken you too the menu bar in basically every single program since win 3.1
 

Scooby Doo

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Click the Alt key, that should bring down the options menu, then click Show Menu Bar.

Or click the red O on the left side of the page tabs. then click Show Menu Bar.
 

iGas

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Web Browser Grand Prix: The Top Five, Tested And Ranked -- Chrome sneaked past Opera 10.5 for pole position, Safari sad squarely in the middle of the pack, while Firefox in 4th place just a head of last place nternet Explorer.

My favorite browser for the last 3-4 years was Opera, but lately Chrome is my default browser.

<---- OS is linux.
 
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can't use more than 1 core.

I will continue using Chrome. Atom is a slow in-order architecture and I need something that can use my full processor, not half it.
50&#37; performance increase from the second thread, since so much of the first thread gets stalled waiting for data from the memory.
 

tommo123

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can you import opera sessions etc into chrome? tried chrome a couple of times but always went back to opera within minutes for various reasons. at one point it didnt even remember you last session. loaded a dozen tabs, closed it and on reopening the thing all my tabs were gone.
 

tommo123

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ok, same again. just installed it and uninstalled it pretty much straight away.

basically sent this to google. am i missing where some of these options are?

(uninstall permanently and going to another browser)

1 - doesnt see opera at all so won't import browsing sessions/bookmarks or anything - only sees IE. i'm not doing it manually.

2 - no option to choose install locale = instant uninstall. i want everything needed in 1 folder e.g c:\chrome. as i do with opera. i copy that folder to another PC and everything is there. no installing, no session etc importing. it just works. chrome is under users etc which i despise.

3 - no zoom funtion like in opera. in opera i set it to 150% and fit to width. i have a 30" monitor (2560x1600) so text is too small @ 100%. zooming manually for every single page is nuts

seems that opera is the only decent browser out there really. firefox is fine and all but speedwise is only in the running as downloaded. install all the addons etc and it slows right down and more of a security risk
 

CurseTheSky

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The interface (from the ars technica article) looks very similar to Chrome. Almost like a Chrome (primary) and Firefox hybrid.

Did Opera rip off Chrome or did Chrome rip off Opera? I haven't used Opera before, so I wouldn't know who "invented" the tabs on top concept and simplistic icons for home, refresh, etc.
 
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i've been using opera for several years, and this is the best release yet. definitely very snappy. i had been keeping firefox handy for youtube and some other things, but 10.5's performance in youtube is very good. also, text is a bit sharper.
 

Aluvus

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And just WHERE in the instructions does it say anything about using ALT ? ?
What is this now, a guessing game to find the OPTIONS ? ?

IE has had the same behavior since IE7. I don't like it in IE either.

The interface (from the ars technica article) looks very similar to Chrome. Almost like a Chrome (primary) and Firefox hybrid.

Did Opera rip off Chrome or did Chrome rip off Opera? I haven't used Opera before, so I wouldn't know who "invented" the tabs on top concept and simplistic icons for home, refresh, etc.

Removing the menu bar was first done by IE7, and later Chrome (all versions AFAIK), and is new to Opera 10.5. Compressing the tabs into the title bar was first done by Chrome (all versions AFAIK) and is new to Opera 10.5. These are the most "Chrome-esque" features of the new version. The other things you describe have been in Opera since forever.

Opera first introduced tabs (which is to say, introduced them to Web browsers) in Opera 4.0 (2000). Based on random screenshots around the Web, the tabs could be located above the content area. Earlier versions had an MDI, but not tabs.
 

bruceb

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As far as I know IE7 did not actually remove the Menu Bar .... It was there and easily selected to be On or Off as the user desired. You were not able to put it at the top of the browser screen, but some little IE tweaks fixed that easily.

Link here to useful tweaks for IE7 & IE8

http://www.enhanceie.com/ie/tweaks.asp

Also good to install is IE7 Pro (it also works on IE8)

http://ie7pro.com/
 

evident

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opera rocks, it always has since it became free and competed w/ firefox. Firefox on my work laptop always balloons to 700MB of memory usage, opera stays at a cool 200MB or so.

I'm also digging the new look of 10.5