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Opensuse 10.2 available for download
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blerrrrrgh.
Comes with Mono DRMed ?
Comes with SMB with new remote atestation from Microsoft ?
OGG Vorbis have a new decoder so we can Buy it believing that is better cutted ?
We have to activate it to use after a period of free trial determined by Microsoft ( Free until Microsoft englobes and swallows definetly SUSE )?
Will Steve Ballmer call me a thief too ?
Are we stoling portions never really defined by real codes of windows creations ?
Comes with Mono DRMed ?
Comes with SMB with new remote atestation from Microsoft ?
OGG Vorbis have a new decoder so we can Buy it believing that is better cutted ?
We have to activate it to use after a period of free trial determined by Microsoft ( Free until Microsoft englobes and swallows definetly SUSE )?
Will Steve Ballmer call me a thief too ?
Are we stoling portions never really defined by real codes of windows creations ?
Seekermeister
Golden Member
I'm curious. I have SuSe 10.0...what has changed with the new versions?
Seekermeister
Golden Member
Nothing. MS is simply attempting to cause legal problems. It is a sign that MS now considers Linux to be a threat to their monopoly.
SleepWalkerX
Platinum Member
Almost all of this doesn't make sense.
Mono has nothing to do with DRM.. It is an implementation of Microsoft's .NET development framework for alternate operating systems. If you don't like it, don't use it. Not like it matters cause you obviously don't know what it is.
I'm not sure what you meant by your statement about Samba..
I'm not sure what you meant by your statement about the OGG Vorbis codec..
Microsoft does not own the OpenSUSE linux distribution. Also, there are always free updates for the OpenSUSE platform. It has always been free since Novell bought Suse.
Steve Ballmer can't call you a thief if you use the OpenSUSE linux distribution because it'll directly violate the agreement between Novell and Microsoft. If you use other distributions, then maybe.
I can't tell what you're trying to ask by your last question..
There seems to be way too much FUD about this. Go read and learn to rephrase your questions before submitting junk. For more info on how the MS/Novell deal impacts the OpenSUSE project, please read Andreas Jaeger's blog entry revolving around it.
http://andreasjaeger.blogspot.com/2006/11/opensuse-and-microsoft.html
SleepWalkerX
Platinum Member
Agreed, party time indeed. I've been running 10.2 RC1 so now I'm just going to update it. Running smooth and its tons of fun. B)
Yeah , Ballmer is plagging it`s FUD about other distros.
But One thing I can think is if Opensuse is an equal version of Fedora project, always a test base for Red Hat, and this is where i have all of the fears, indirectly we can help MS to dominate the world.
Ballmer will continue to plagge it`s FUD, and I will stay out of the way SUSE + Microsoft is going on, I don`t know the way they will use for a choice. But certainly will have a great impact over the Linux world. MS want`s to destroy Linux. This is the problem.
I will avoid Opensuse as well.
SleepWalkerX
Platinum Member
Again, its hard to tell what you're trying to say, but let me take a stab at it.
You're scared because Novell made an agreement with Microsoft. That's understandable. However, your attitude isn't. Here's how you should be looking at the situation:
Microsoft could make claims on Linux code due to software patents. This threatens all Linux distributions.
Microsoft made a deal with one company supplying a Linux distribution, Novell. Microsoft could make claims on Linux code due to software patents. This threatens all Linux distributions except for Novell's.
You're probably thinking, "Hey! I thought Microsoft was trying to destroy Linux! What's going on?". Well yes, its true, they are direct competition. However, there's no reason two companies can't come up with an agreement that would benefit them both. Novell got something important. Their customers can't be sued now. There's a small chance that Microsoft would actually sue individuals, but now customers of Novell will have insurance and this definantly looks attractive compared to other distributions. No one wants to get sued.
So what did Microsoft get? Not sure of everything, but one thing is interoperability. Just because people use SLES as a virtualization server doesn't mean they shouldn't be able to install Windows on it. Not only that, but there's the whole situation with the Open Document Format. I think Microsoft's Office will be able to export documents to this format. I'm sure there are plenty of other ways Microsoft can benefit.
Nothinman
Elite Member
They've wanted to do that for years and it has yet to be a real problem. If MS had an ace up their sleeve they would have used it by now.
So far they've done nothing that every other distribution hasn't done AFAIK. If you want to avoid Novell's stuff because of their deal with MS that's fine, but you're FUD is just as bad as the stuff coming from MS.
And out of curiosity is english your first language? I'm not trying to be a dick or anything but your posts are kind of hard to follow and I'm curious about whether it's a language thing or not.
10.2 is pretty bleeding edge:
> KDE 3.5.5.
> Gnome 2.16.
> Kernel 2.6.18.2.
> Openoffice 2.0.4.
> Koffice 1.6.
> New Kickoff KDE menu bar
> XGL/AIGLX + Compiz
> Opensync 0.20 instead of the old Multisync
> Taskjuggler 2.3.0. (maybe only of interest to me 😉 )
> ALSA 1.0.13.
> X.Org 7.2 RC2 (hopefully will be updated by YAST to 7.2. final)
> Firefox 2.0
> Cups 1.2.7.
My only wish was that it had had time to include:
> Kernel 2.6.19
> kOFFICE 1.6.1.
> Digicam 0.9.
> K3B 1.0
> Mono 1.2.
> X.org 7.2. final
had these components made it in I would have termed it the most advanced of what might be called 'legacy' linux, before the likes of KDE4 arrive.
however, regardless of the above package versions it is still very bleeding edge, and yet blessed with the polish and solidity that commercial backing can bestow on a distro.
i am looking forward to putting it on my work laptop as a replacement for 10.1.
You could characterize that as what is happenning only if you have no clue what is happenning.
Novell and Microsoft agreed to do patent exchange to protect each other from lawsuites.
For a long time nobody was certain what that ment as normal patent protections are technically illegal under the GPL (it is effect adding addition licensing restrictions), but as it turned out MS and Novell had a found a loophole in the GPLv2 that allowed them to work around it.
So people were freaking out for a bit as it ment that Novell and Microsoft signed a deal were Novell could distribute SAMBA (for instance) without worry of Microsoft lawsuites, but the actual creators of SAMBA were still under threat. It's not a very nice thing to do to somebody else that works for you for essentially gratis.
The way the Free software should work, and how it works for other companies is that patents they have that may cover parts of Linux are contributed to the community so that nobody has to worry about being sued for using software that you distribute. that is why you now have the OIN patent pool and with Sun you get protection if you use their code from their patents.
With other licenses, such as BSD or MIT, what can happen is that Company A gives code to Company B under the MIT license. Company C takes code from Company B and then gets sued by Company A under patent infringment. They were scared that is what Microsoft is trying to do with Novell, but that's not the case.
postmortemIA
Diamond Member
Here's conspiracy: Mouse pointer during installation looks exactly like Microsoft's own "work in background" pointer since 1995.
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