Openly carry in your home during CL transaction

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phucheneh

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Let me add- the type of item certainly matters. In my example, I'm talking about electronics...but it's cheap 'nerd electronics.' No one's getting robbed over an old DD-WRT-compatible Linksys router.

Similarly, no one is getting robbed over furniture or whatever the OP is looking to move. While I agree with always being somewhat cautious, there is a time and place for the INTENSE suspicion that some people seem to have. See: Apple products, game consoles, ect. Do not see: old electronics, large furniture, niche hobby items, ect...
 

Eug

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Same response as last 'oh noes craigslist!' thread:

Quit advertising yourself as an antisocial shut-in. While I hate to put a 'normal' label on people...well, 'normal' people just don't have these issues. Anyone who has been willing to do a transaction at their house has not particularly frightened, or been frightened by, myself.

Maybe it's simply because I live in the south, and it's pretty much understood that they will have access to a firearm, so I'm not a worry. And people generally aren't going to try to rob you in their own home, so they're not a worry.

I mean, hell, the last time I bought something where someone just said 'come over,' it was an old router. The guy leads me deep into his house to his nerd room, he shows me that it works, we chat for a while, he shows me his arcade cabinet he's building...ect. You know, like, friendly, normal people interaction.

This thought that every CL transaction is like some kind of old west showdown...jesus, people.
Nobody said every CL transaction is going to be like that. However, the likelihood of trouble is going to be higher with a $500 phone than it is with a $20 router.

Meanwhile, for cheap routers these days I'd rather get one from a store on sale, complete with warranty and with a viable store return policy. So what if it's an extra twenty-five bucks.
 
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JulesMaximus

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By the way, I sold a $350 set of bicycle wheels on craigslist just a couple months ago. I talked to the buyer a couple times on the phone and met a friend of his at a Starbucks where he looked at the wheels and paid in cash for them. No problem at all.

I sold a motorcycle on craigslist a couple years ago to a guy who came to my house to look at it. He paid me with a cashier's check. Never had any trouble with either transaction.
 

Pardus

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I sell stuff all the time on craigslist, never had an issue. Usually meet at a local restaurant. Some people are just too damn paranoid.
 

phucheneh

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I sell stuff all the time on craigslist, never had an issue. Usually meet at a local restaurant. Some people are just too damn paranoid.

'But there are so many stories in the news!'

To me, it's kind of like being afraid to go to Best Buy and purchase a television because you saw a news story about a drug deal in the Best Buy parking lot that ended in violence. There is just too much blanket application of fear.

I would wager that in 99% of the reported crimes related to craigslist, there were some bad decisions made, and probably some very obvious warning signs that the transaction in question should not be pursued. 'Guy with poor grammar and spelling that communicates through email only is selling the current high-demand gadget at a deep discount? Meet at time and place of his choosing? Sure, why not?!' :rolleyes:
 

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I would wager that in 99% of the reported crimes related to craigslist, there were some bad decisions made, and probably some very obvious warning signs that the transaction in question should not be pursued. 'Guy with poor grammar and spelling
That's like 98% of Craigslist ads.

that communicates through email only is selling the current high-demand gadget at a deep discount?
Why else would you buy off Craigslist, to buy something at full retail? Ok, maybe if it's out of stock, but then the ads would be for more than retail, and you'd be better off just waiting 2 weeks to get one at retail - less money and no hassle.

Meet at time and place of his choosing? Sure, why not?!' :rolleyes:
Sellers usually have the upper hand for choosing the time and place of course. A seller selling something at a discount isn't going to drive across town to meet me just because I ask him to.
 
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zinfamous

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Trust is something earned. You're a complete moron if you trust another human out of a craigslist ad.

Very good friend of mine has created a very substantial business purely through CL--moving, purchasing, selling, various services, in some of the "worst" parts of the country--NYC and over here in South Berkeley/Oakland/Richmond. He's now in Austin doing the same thing, and has been awarded some sort of local civics award for his success and local contributions (he's transferred and donated a lot of merchandise to local veterans services)

He's certainly not a moron, he's got plenty of trust for random CL people, and has probably interacted with more people through Craigslist than all of AT combined, in various parts of the country.

Nearly all of you are cowering behind the curtains in your bumpkin Iowa town, preparing to go to war whenever you try to sell a goddamn iPhone.

Summary: You're a bunch of paranoid, antisocial jaggoffs.
 

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Very good friend of mine has created a very substantial business purely through CL--moving, purchasing, selling, various services, in some of the "worst" parts of the country--NYC and over here in South Berkeley/Oakland/Richmond. He's now in Austin doing the same thing, and has been awarded some sort of local civics award for his success and local contributions (he's transferred and donated a lot of merchandise to local veterans services)

He's certainly not a moron, he's got plenty of trust for random CL people, and has probably interacted with more people through Craigslist than all of AT combined, in various parts of the country.

Nearly all of you are cowering behind the curtains in your bumpkin Iowa town, preparing to go to war whenever you try to sell a goddamn iPhone.

Summary: You're a bunch of paranoid, antisocial jaggoffs.
I wonder if he pays taxes on all that stuff. Cuz if it's your main business, the IRS will go after you if they find out about it.
 

highland145

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Damn, I must be a foolish trusting soul, then. I just sold a Paradigm soundbar system three days ago in my house and didn't even have a gun nearby. Sold two cars within the last month or so....even did a test drive with the buyer and without a gun on me during the entire drive of both.

Silly me.

Then again, I don't live in abject fear of everyone else on the planet.

Of course, I do have dogs. Large dogs.
Ha and met me in the middle of nowhere for the RC plane.

Your wife did have the Remington 870 handy though.
 

Puppies04

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No way I would sell inside my house. I wouldn't be worried about them mugging me, I would be more worried about them coming back when i'm not in to steal all the stuff they saw in my house. Outside the garage is just fine.
 

Hugo Drax

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How do you guys feel about this? Due to size and weight of some things you just can't meet up with the buyer in a public place.

I think it's douchey to open carry so I wouldn't do it but I have been thinking of conceal carry during home transactions. Unfortunately my sp2022 isn't the ideal size to conceal effectively.

not effective. What you need is a sniper and a spotter. and have a sign that says, area under sniper protection.

And one visible armed security guard.

This would provide enough safety for a CL transaction.
 

Puppies04

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not effective. What you need is a sniper and a spotter. and have a sign that says, area under sniper protection.

And one visible armed security guard.

This would provide enough safety for a CL transaction.

Suicide vest might work, press the trigger when they enter the property and tell them if they try to drop the agreed price $1 you will let go.
 

Scarpozzi

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You should conceal carry, but leave unloaded firearms around the room. If the buyer reaches for ANY of them, pull out your concealed firearm and start blasting!
 

shortylickens

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Very good friend of mine has created a very substantial business purely through CL--moving, purchasing, selling, various services, in some of the "worst" parts of the country--NYC and over here in South Berkeley/Oakland/Richmond. He's now in Austin doing the same thing, and has been awarded some sort of local civics award for his success and local contributions (he's transferred and donated a lot of merchandise to local veterans services)

He's certainly not a moron, he's got plenty of trust for random CL people, and has probably interacted with more people through Craigslist than all of AT combined, in various parts of the country.

Nearly all of you are cowering behind the curtains in your bumpkin Iowa town, preparing to go to war whenever you try to sell a goddamn iPhone.

Summary: You're a bunch of paranoid, antisocial jaggoffs.

I guess if you liberals would stop letting murderers loose we wouldnt be so worried about getting hurt.
 

Nintendesert

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I sell stuff all the time on craigslist, never had an issue. Usually meet at a local restaurant. Some people are just too damn paranoid.


Call others paranoid but you and the other douchers meet up in public places.


Lawls.
 
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I bought a motorcycle off CL a few months ago and pull up at the guy's place and he comes out with a gun strapped to his hip. Ok bud, nice to meet you. We looked the bike, showed me a few things. Had someone of mine do a quick trip around the block. Chatting with the guy and he has handcuffs and pepper spray too. I'm like so where's the taser?

Bike checks out ok, we do the paperwork thing and he said he's heading back to his route. Gets in his police car and drives off.
 

Nintendesert

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I bought a motorcycle off CL a few months ago and pull up at the guy's place and he comes out with a gun strapped to his hip. Ok bud, nice to meet you. We looked the bike, showed me a few things. Had someone of mine do a quick trip around the block. Chatting with the guy and he has handcuffs and pepper spray too. I'm like so where's the taser?

Bike checks out ok, we do the paperwork thing and he said he's heading back to his route. Gets in his police car and drives off.



HAHA. Loved the story. :thumbsup:
 

dud

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How do you guys feel about this? Due to size and weight of some things you just can't meet up with the buyer in a public place.

I think it's douchey to open carry so I wouldn't do it but I have been thinking of conceal carry during home transactions. Unfortunately my sp2022 isn't the ideal size to conceal effectively.



Yeah, if I were a CL buyer I would jump all over the chance to participate in this type of transaction.
 

pontifex

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you guys against it act like there was 1 single incident of something bad happening. there are many incidents. it doesn't hurt to be prepared.

i guess if you have smoke alarms and fire extinguishers, you're paranoid that you're going to have a fire.
 

Tweak155

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This is one of those situations where I think an open gun would escalate the situation vs protecting you.
 

Scarpozzi

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This is one of those situations where I think an open gun would escalate the situation vs protecting you.

That's why it's important to have one concealed in an ankle holster for backup! You never show them all your cards!
 

JulesMaximus

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you guys against it act like there was 1 single incident of something bad happening. there are many incidents. it doesn't hurt to be prepared.

i guess if you have smoke alarms and fire extinguishers, you're paranoid that you're going to have a fire.

Smoke detectors don't kill people. :rolleyes: