• We’re currently investigating an issue related to the forum theme and styling that is impacting page layout and visual formatting. The problem has been identified, and we are actively working on a resolution. There is no impact to user data or functionality, this is strictly a front-end display issue. We’ll post an update once the fix has been deployed. Thanks for your patience while we get this sorted.

Open carry soon to be banned in California.

D

DCal430

Diamond Member
The state Senate has approved legislation today that would make it a crime to openly carry an unloaded handgun in public.
Assembly Bill 144, by Assemblyman Anthony Portantino, D-La Cañada Flintridge, targets the "open carry" movement, marked by gatherings of people displaying their firearms in public places to protest gun-control laws.
The bill language contains a number of exceptions, including exemptions for peace officers, military gatherings, gun shows and hunting. ​
Click to expand...
​
​

About time I say. There is no reason to open carry other than to intimidate those around you. Hope it passes the assembly soon and the governor can sign it into law. ​
 
I got a hunch that one group of assholes tried to shove their point of view up the assholes of another group of assholes so the second group of assholes said to the first group of asshole, shove this up yours.
 
Well this is what contemporary Democrats do. Is the state going bankrupt? Hey set illegals up for financial aid to college! Budget woes have you down? Release 1000's of criminals form prisons. Mexico's civil war flooding across border - keep those guns away from US citizens. California is run by 100% certifiable lunatics. Anyone with sense (some of you out there) sees CA is on road to ruin and who is driving the bus.
 
finglobes said:
Well this is what contemporary Democrats do. Is the state going bankrupt? Hey set illegals up for financial aid to college! Budget woes have you down? Release 1000's of criminals form prisons. Mexico's civil war flooding across border - keep those guns away from US citizens. California is run by 100% certifiable lunatics. Anyone with sense (some of you out there) sees CA is on road to ruin and who is driving the bus.
Click to expand...

Except California has a lot better government than most states - despite some flaws - and far better than any of these news-covered red states.
 
Craig234 said:
Except California has a lot better government than most states - despite some flaws - and far better than any of these news-covered red states.
Click to expand...

finglobes is a religious nut case who believes that Democrats are out to destroy God as is natural of those who destroy any small credibility the religion of nut cases ever had because of their insane fanaticism. Pay no attention to his delusional ramblings.
 
Moonbeam said:
finglobes is a religious nut case who believes that Democrats are out to destroy God as is natural of those who destroy any small credibility the religion of nut cases ever had because of their insane fanaticism. Pay no attention to his delusional ramblings.
Click to expand...

I'm sure he's overwhelmed with self-hate, too.
 
Open carry is pretty moronic for most densely populated areas. Maybe it would fly in rural areas but this seems like sound policy state-wide too.
 
The legislature passed long gun registration today also. The same system that Canada just ditched because it was costing them a ton of money and not helping solve crimes. Idiots.
 
Infohawk said:
Open carry is pretty moronic for most densely populated areas. Maybe it would fly in rural areas but this seems like sound policy state-wide too.
Click to expand...

Open carry was the last way most law abiding citizens could defend themselves in CA, because we can't get CCW permits.

Sound policy? It disarms the law abiding citizens and makes them perfect victims for the hordes of gangbangers we have running around. And guess what? The gangbangers are going to carry guns anyway, regardless of what laws you put in place to restrict them.
 
Moonbeam said:
I got a hunch that one group of assholes tried to shove their point of view up the assholes of another group of assholes so the second group of assholes said to the first group of asshole, shove this up yours.











__________________
Click to expand...
you always did have a way with words...
 
schneiderguy said:
Open carry was the last way most law abiding citizens could defend themselves in CA, because we can't get CCW permits.

Sound policy? It disarms the law abiding citizens and makes them perfect victims for the hordes of gangbangers we have running around. And guess what? The gangbangers are going to carry guns anyway, regardless of what laws you put in place to restrict them.
Click to expand...

The idea that someone would walk down the street with a gun in downtown San Francisco or Los Angeles is ridiculous. It would cause a panic. It's just not practical. If you want concealed then advocate for that.

And I'll add that in practice there's not a lot of situations where you could really have a gun with you. Almost all businesses would not allow you to have one on their premises. So really you're just cruising to show your firearm which is silly.
 
Infohawk said:
The idea that someone would walk down the street with a gun in downtown San Francisco or Los Angeles is ridiculous. It would cause a panic. It's just not practical. If you want concealed then advocate for that.

And I'll add that in practice there's not a lot of situations where you could really have a gun with you. Almost all businesses would not allow you to have one on their premises. So really you're just cruising to show your firearm which is silly.
Click to expand...

Who gives a shit if it causes a panic? Maybe people shouldn't be pussies.

Advocating for concealed carry won't do anything. They won't give it to us. They're going to have to be dragged kicking and screaming by the Supreme Court before CA goes shall issue CCW.

And in the meantime law abiding citizens will be defenseless.
 
Moonbeam said:
I got a hunch that one group of assholes tried to shove their point of view up the assholes of another group of assholes so the second group of assholes said to the first group of asshole, shove this up yours.
Click to expand...

Assholes have a tendency to know other assholes. Just sayin'.
 
schneiderguy said:
Who gives a shit if it causes a panic? Maybe people shouldn't be pussies.
Click to expand...
As the line from MiB goes, "A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals." If people are going to panic, it will cause trouble for everyone regardless of how stupid they were to do so.

That said, the reasonable way to prevent the panic is to make open carry commonplace enough that the herd is familiar with it - not enact legislation.

Personally I find that allowing concealed carry and disallowing open carry for short guns would make a lot of sense. That way, when someone has a gun out and is not in the process of putting holes in a bad guy, you know something is up. I would favor allowing the open carry of long guns because that is very convenient for transport.
 
schneiderguy said:
Who gives a shit if it causes a panic? Maybe people shouldn't be pussies.

Advocating for concealed carry won't do anything. They won't give it to us. They're going to have to be dragged kicking and screaming by the Supreme Court before CA goes shall issue CCW.

And in the meantime law abiding citizens will be defenseless.
Click to expand...

Only pussies are defenceless.
 
Infohawk said:
The idea that someone would walk down the street with a gun in downtown San Francisco or Los Angeles is ridiculous. It would cause a panic. It's just not practical. If you want concealed then advocate for that.
Click to expand...

Why should a perfectly law abiding person walking down the street legally carrying a gun cause "panic"? It doesn't anywhere else, is there something wrong with the people in those cities? (we already know the answer by the way 😉 )
 
Double Trouble said:
Why should a perfectly law abiding person walking down the street legally carrying a gun cause "panic"? It doesn't anywhere else, is there something wrong with the people in those cities? (we already know the answer by the way 😉 )
Click to expand...

"It doesn't anywhere else"? I suspect you're wrong. Seeing a stranger walking about openly carrying a gun in any reasonably sized city is probably going to cause at least a few issues. I don't think it would cause a "panic" anywhere, but I doubt it would go unnoticed either. I suspect you'd get more or less the same reaction openly carrying a gun around a busy area in Dallas as you would in San Francisco.
 
dphantom said:
Why are some people so afraid of law-abiding citizens openly carrying a firearm - short or long?
Click to expand...

Other than the obvious, and previously mentioned, problem of telling that someone is law-abiding just by looking at them; my experience hasn't suggested it's a remarkably brilliant idea to blindly trust the average person with anything more dangerous than string. Cars are used mostly from transportation, and yet irresponsible morons kill tens of thousands of people each year using their cars. Guns are specifically designed to kill people, and I'm not sure people who carry guns are a significant step up in intelligence or responsibility from the population as a whole.

Your argument, and the argument from the public carry gun crowd as a whole, seems to be that I should trust people who are carrying guns in whatever public place I'm in. My question is, why in the world should I?

I'm not saying I oppose public carrying of guns, but this idea that people should accept it with no reservations at all or that it's the normal thing to do seems ridiculous to me.
 
Doe the article have it wrong? From the article:

"The state Senate has approved legislation today that would make it a crime to openly carry an unloaded handgun in public".


Just load the firearm and get around the law. No one should be carrying an unloaded firearm anyway.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

TRENDING THREADS

Back
Top