open bsd

[nihil]

i just installed open bsd on one of my spare machines today. and let me tell you, it's pretty damn cool so far. hmmm....anyone else out there use open bsd?

 

[GT1999]

I've used FreeBSD a bit, I love make install! I've heard OpenBSD is about the same but harder to use... how was the install?

 

[neuralfx]

What ya got it running on? ya n0cmonkey uses obsd .. enjoy =)
-neural

 

[AkumaBao]

I heard the install process for OpenBSD was pretty smooth. I'm just using FreeBSD right now.

 

[nihil]

the install was really easy. i'm not too sure about getting x to work but then again i won't be doing that at all.

 

[n0cmonkey]

I realize how good OpenBSD is when Linux screw the F up and there is no source that is readily and easily available and even if it was, there is no build world type of setup.

 

[fivepesos]

<< I realize how good OpenBSD is when Linux screw the F up and there is no source that is readily and easily available and even if it was, there is no build world type of setup. >>


yeah but linux is more bleeding edge oriented. bsd is the more tried and true stable release. its different philosophies. slackware (which is more stable/secure oriented distro) very seldom gives me problems.

as secure as openbsd is, you generally cant get the latest software for it. i remember running freebsd (i know its not openbsd) with X using some crap generic x server when under linux i could use the excellent nivida linux drivers.

im not disrespecting openbsd, its got one helluva security record. but sometimes i wanna do something bleeding edge, and thats a little more difficult under bsd (although i do have limited bsd experience).

 

[n0cmonkey]

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<< I realize how good OpenBSD is when Linux screw the F up and there is no source that is readily and easily available and even if it was, there is no build world type of setup. >>


yeah but linux is more bleeding edge oriented. bsd is the more tried and true stable release. its different philosophies. slackware (which is more stable/secure oriented distro) very seldom gives me problems. >>



This is an interview with Theo DeRaadt (creator of OpenBSD).

JA: What advantages does OpenBSD offer over Linux?

Theo de Raadt: I don't use Linux, so I do not really know how to answer this.

But when I am pressed to answer, I normally point out that our development process is much tighter; this is perhaps a reflection of our goals to have simpler and more proven code, and also perhaps because of our very structured 6 month development cycle. I feel that OpenBSD development is evolutionary instead of revolutionary, and suspect that since our development methodology is so radically different at a fundamental level, that it will result in many obvious differences for the user community -- a long list full of contentious things which I prefer not to write up.

This evolution over revolution helps keep things in check. Its a great interview and I recommend you read it



<< as secure as openbsd is, you generally cant get the latest software for it. >>



I normally dont have too many problems. Of course I dont need the latest piece of software usually.



<< i remember running freebsd (i know its not openbsd) with X using some crap generic x server when under linux i could use the excellent nivida linux drivers. >>



I know OpenBSD supports nVidia video cards just fine.



<< im not disrespecting openbsd, >>



I understand. These are legitimate downsides to using OpenBSD, to some people.



<< its got one helluva security record. but sometimes i wanna do something bleeding edge, and thats a little more difficult under bsd (although i do have limited bsd experience). >>



It is, but it fits my personality and style better than linux does. Plus I understand it better. Its personal preference really.

 

[fivepesos]

excellent interview. thx for the suggestion.

openbsd drivers for nvidia cards u say? are they the nv driver or the opengl nvidia drivers? i apologize if im unaware of the bsd equivalent, but under linux the first one (used since like xfree ~3.x) and doesnt have opengl support, the newer ones are excellent for use with quake3, unreal tourny, and tribes 2 (probably others too). but then again, who plans to run opengl games under bsd? i guess a decent x server would be enough. to tell u the truth, i dont even game under linux.

 

[n0cmonkey]

<< excellent interview. thx for the suggestion. >>



Not a problem. I think the things he sa ys about OpenBSD make a lot of sense and I definitely read every interview with him that I happen to see. Cant say the same about Linus



<< openbsd drivers for nvidia cards u say? are they the nv driver or the opengl nvidia drivers? i apologize if im unaware of the bsd equivalent, but under linux the first one (used since like xfree ~3.x) and doesnt have opengl support, the newer ones are excellent for use with quake3, unreal tourny, and tribes 2 (probably others too). but then again, who plans to run opengl games under bsd? i guess a decent x server would be enough. to tell u the truth, i dont even game under linux. >>



OpenBSD just uses the XF86 4.x drivers. They dont use closed source nVidia drivers or anything. No hardware acceleration. All I know is that they released a patch for the driver at one point because of a stability problem. But I think that was an X thing, not sure. I dont use nVidia products.