Open Access Internet

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Ausm

Originally posted by: Genx87
I wouldnt be against the govt forcing the local telcom and cable providers to sub lease their lines and recoup costs in a regulated fashion like they are discussing. But I also doubt this will spur innovation either like you hope. Rural America will still be using dial up. Only they may have more than 1-2 choices.

If you left i infrastructure concerns to the Republican's we would still be using 1400 baud modems.

Nice attempt at a troll. Well actually that was pretty pathetic. You trying to be Jokus 2.0? As bas as jokus is, at least some of his trolls are witty.

Republicans have held major control of the executive and legislative branches basically since the inception of the internet in mainstream America in 1994. Back then a 14.4 Bps modem was what avg American used. Today avg America has a connection speed of about 3Mbps.

So you were saying?

 

[Ausm]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Ausm

Originally posted by: Genx87
I wouldnt be against the govt forcing the local telcom and cable providers to sub lease their lines and recoup costs in a regulated fashion like they are discussing. But I also doubt this will spur innovation either like you hope. Rural America will still be using dial up. Only they may have more than 1-2 choices.

If you left i infrastructure concerns to the Republican's we would still be using 1400 baud modems.

Nice attempt at a troll. Well actually that was pretty pathetic. You trying to be Jokus 2.0? As bas as jokus is, at least some of his trolls are witty.

Republicans have held major control of the executive and legislative branches basically since the inception of the internet in mainstream America in 1994. Back then a 14.4 Bps modem was what avg American used. Today avg America has a connection speed of about 3Mbps.

So you were saying?

Posted links above...trolling hardly. :roll:

Also this article shows were we rank with other nations. I think piss poor infrastructure has alot to do with this myself.

http://money.cnn.com/2009/10/0...ction=money_topstories

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Ausm

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Ausm

Originally posted by: Genx87
I wouldnt be against the govt forcing the local telcom and cable providers to sub lease their lines and recoup costs in a regulated fashion like they are discussing. But I also doubt this will spur innovation either like you hope. Rural America will still be using dial up. Only they may have more than 1-2 choices.

If you left i infrastructure concerns to the Republican's we would still be using 1400 baud modems.

Nice attempt at a troll. Well actually that was pretty pathetic. You trying to be Jokus 2.0? As bas as jokus is, at least some of his trolls are witty.

Republicans have held major control of the executive and legislative branches basically since the inception of the internet in mainstream America in 1994. Back then a 14.4 Bps modem was what avg American used. Today avg America has a connection speed of about 3Mbps.

So you were saying?

Posted links above...trolling hardly. :roll:

Also this article shows were we rank with other nations. I think piss poor infrastructure has alot to do with this myself.

http://money.cnn.com/2009/10/0...ction=money_topstories

I am curious. Do you even think before posting? You use a controversial stimulus bill as proof Republicans would still have us on 1400 Bps modems? Really? Is that why we have gone from 14.4 to 3Mbps while Republicans have held major control of two branches of our govt over the past 15 years?

As for your link. Geographic concerns are major issue within the United States. We have a very sparse population compared to a Japan, S. Korea, and many European countries.

Frantically searching google to back up your ridiculous trolls doesnt help your cause.

Here is an example of population density

Japan - 874\sq mile
S. Korea - 1274\Sq mile
Singapore - 17,256\Sq Mile

United States - 80\Sq Mile

 

[Ausm]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Ausm

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Ausm

Originally posted by: Genx87
I wouldnt be against the govt forcing the local telcom and cable providers to sub lease their lines and recoup costs in a regulated fashion like they are discussing. But I also doubt this will spur innovation either like you hope. Rural America will still be using dial up. Only they may have more than 1-2 choices.

If you left i infrastructure concerns to the Republican's we would still be using 1400 baud modems.

Nice attempt at a troll. Well actually that was pretty pathetic. You trying to be Jokus 2.0? As bas as jokus is, at least some of his trolls are witty.

Republicans have held major control of the executive and legislative branches basically since the inception of the internet in mainstream America in 1994. Back then a 14.4 Bps modem was what avg American used. Today avg America has a connection speed of about 3Mbps.

So you were saying?

Posted links above...trolling hardly. :roll:

Also this article shows were we rank with other nations. I think piss poor infrastructure has alot to do with this myself.

http://money.cnn.com/2009/10/0...ction=money_topstories

I am curious. Do you even think before posting? You use a controversial stimulus bill as proof Republicans would still have us on 1400 Bps modems? Really? Is that why we have gone from 14.4 to 3Mbps while Republicans have held major control of two branches of our govt over the past 15 years?

As for your link. Geographic concerns are major issue within the United States. We have a very sparse population compared to a Japan, S. Korea, and many European countries.

Frantically searching google to back up your ridiculous trolls doesnt help your cause.

I was using the 1440 baud line as a joke sorry you took it so seriously but getting back to the point. Your trying to tell me the Republican's are all for infrastructure improvements? lmao start listing all the republican legislature that helped improve America's internet infrastructure.

You really think that improved internet speeds equate to the GOP being infrastructure friendly?
HAHAHAHAH

 

[Genx87]

I was using the 1440 baud line as a joke sorry you took it so seriously but getting back to the point. Your trying to tell me the Republican's are all for infrastructure improvements? lmao start listing all the republican legislature that helped improve America's infrastructure.

You really think that improved internet speeds equate to the GOP being infrastructure friendly?
HAHAHAHAH

Apparently your reading comprehension is as bad as your sarcasm. I have clearly said in this thread I dont trust the govt with maintaining infrastructure because it isnt a pretty handout to a demographic group. For most people that means Republican and Democrat.

The govt would pay for it up front and let it languish because infrastructure is boring and doesnt buy votes. Ironically your very example of the stimulus bill last Spring provides perfect evidence of this. Originally sold as an infrastructure bill. The majority of it ended up being tax breaks and money give aways to select groups. A small % of it actually going to boring infrastructure.

Now why dont you quietly leave this thread and let the grownups discuss the legitimate topic of govt vs private run\owned cable\telcom infrastructure.

 

[Ausm]

Originally posted by: Genx87

I was using the 1440 baud line as a joke sorry you took it so seriously but getting back to the point. Your trying to tell me the Republican's are all for infrastructure improvements? lmao start listing all the republican legislature that helped improve America's infrastructure.

You really think that improved internet speeds equate to the GOP being infrastructure friendly?
HAHAHAHAH

Apparently your reading comprehension is as bad as your sarcasm. I have clearly said in this thread I dont trust the govt with maintaining infrastructure because it isnt a pretty handout to a demographic group. For most people that means Republican and Democrat.

The govt would pay for it up front and let it languish because infrastructure is boring and doesnt buy votes. Ironically your very example of the stimulus bill last Spring provides perfect evidence of this. Originally sold as an infrastructure bill. The majority of it ended up being tax breaks and money give aways to select groups. A small % of it actually going to boring infrastructure.

Now why dont you quietly leave this thread and let the grownups discuss the legitimate topic of govt vs private run\owned cable\telcom infrastructure.

Dude your the one who jumped my ass about the 14400 baud comment now prove yours...

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Ausm

Originally posted by: Genx87

I was using the 1440 baud line as a joke sorry you took it so seriously but getting back to the point. Your trying to tell me the Republican's are all for infrastructure improvements? lmao start listing all the republican legislature that helped improve America's infrastructure.

You really think that improved internet speeds equate to the GOP being infrastructure friendly?
HAHAHAHAH

Apparently your reading comprehension is as bad as your sarcasm. I have clearly said in this thread I dont trust the govt with maintaining infrastructure because it isnt a pretty handout to a demographic group. For most people that means Republican and Democrat.

The govt would pay for it up front and let it languish because infrastructure is boring and doesnt buy votes. Ironically your very example of the stimulus bill last Spring provides perfect evidence of this. Originally sold as an infrastructure bill. The majority of it ended up being tax breaks and money give aways to select groups. A small % of it actually going to boring infrastructure.

Now why dont you quietly leave this thread and let the grownups discuss the legitimate topic of govt vs private run\owned cable\telcom infrastructure.

Dude your the one who jumped my ass about the 14400 baud comment now prove yours...

Just leave, you have brought nothing to this thread except a poorly thought out troll.

 

[Ausm]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Ausm

Originally posted by: Genx87

I was using the 1440 baud line as a joke sorry you took it so seriously but getting back to the point. Your trying to tell me the Republican's are all for infrastructure improvements? lmao start listing all the republican legislature that helped improve America's infrastructure.

You really think that improved internet speeds equate to the GOP being infrastructure friendly?
HAHAHAHAH

Apparently your reading comprehension is as bad as your sarcasm. I have clearly said in this thread I dont trust the govt with maintaining infrastructure because it isnt a pretty handout to a demographic group. For most people that means Republican and Democrat.

The govt would pay for it up front and let it languish because infrastructure is boring and doesnt buy votes. Ironically your very example of the stimulus bill last Spring provides perfect evidence of this. Originally sold as an infrastructure bill. The majority of it ended up being tax breaks and money give aways to select groups. A small % of it actually going to boring infrastructure.

Now why dont you quietly leave this thread and let the grownups discuss the legitimate topic of govt vs private run\owned cable\telcom infrastructure.

Dude your the one who jumped my ass about the 14400 baud comment now prove yours...

Nice attempt at a troll. Well actually that was pretty pathetic. You trying to be Jokus 2.0? As bas as jokus is, at least some of his trolls are witty.

Republicans have held major control of the executive and legislative branches basically since the inception of the internet in mainstream America in 1994. Back then a 14.4 Bps modem was what avg American used. Today avg America has a connection speed of about 3Mbps.

So you were saying?

Give me a break you fucking lame piece of shit...WHERE IS YOUR PROOF? SHOW ME THE LEGISLATION WHERE THE GOP IMPROVED INTERNET SPEEDS!

 

[Patranus]

LOL - It is amazing how something that has been unregulated by the government has done so well.

It is amazing how much the price of a phone call has dropped since phone companies were deregulated.

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Your own post is contradictory. You deny that country size has no impact but say that high speed internet is rare in rural areas. That's the connection. Laying down infrastructure is simply more expensive over larger land areas. America has a lot more land than the countries that boast ubiquitous high-speed internet.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: Ausm

Originally posted by: Genx87
I wouldnt be against the govt forcing the local telcom and cable providers to sub lease their lines and recoup costs in a regulated fashion like they are discussing. But I also doubt this will spur innovation either like you hope. Rural America will still be using dial up. Only they may have more than 1-2 choices.

If you left i infrastructure concerns to the Republican's we would still be using 1400 baud modems.

examples before someone jumps my shit

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes...erence-and-compromise/

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/...onnell-stimulus-block/

http://rawstory.com/blog/2009/...nators-net-neutrality/

http://www.washingtonmonthly.c...ual/2009_02/016734.php

I believe that you brought this up.


You tried to tie 14K to the Republicans and Genx87 showed that over the past 16+ years, speeds have increase when the Republicans have been controlling much of the government.

Comparing the US to other countries also requires taking into account the population density.

If you want to go city population by city population density; that would be a fairer comparison.

 

[Ausm]

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy

Originally posted by: Ausm

Originally posted by: Genx87
I wouldnt be against the govt forcing the local telcom and cable providers to sub lease their lines and recoup costs in a regulated fashion like they are discussing. But I also doubt this will spur innovation either like you hope. Rural America will still be using dial up. Only they may have more than 1-2 choices.

If you left i infrastructure concerns to the Republican's we would still be using 1400 baud modems.

examples before someone jumps my shit

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes...erence-and-compromise/

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/...onnell-stimulus-block/

http://rawstory.com/blog/2009/...nators-net-neutrality/

http://www.washingtonmonthly.c...ual/2009_02/016734.php

I believe that you brought this up.


You tried to tie 14K to the Republicans and Genx87 showed that over the past 16+ years, speeds have increase when the Republicans have been controlling much of the government.

Comparing the US to other countries also requires taking into account the population density.

If you want to go city population by city population density; that would be a fairer comparison.

My point to him is speeds have increased with no help of the Republican's.

I posted those other links to illustrate that the Republican's are categorically opposed to infrastructure.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy

Originally posted by: Ausm

Originally posted by: Genx87
I wouldnt be against the govt forcing the local telcom and cable providers to sub lease their lines and recoup costs in a regulated fashion like they are discussing. But I also doubt this will spur innovation either like you hope. Rural America will still be using dial up. Only they may have more than 1-2 choices.

If you left i infrastructure concerns to the Republican's we would still be using 1400 baud modems.

examples before someone jumps my shit

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes...erence-and-compromise/

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/...onnell-stimulus-block/

http://rawstory.com/blog/2009/...nators-net-neutrality/

http://www.washingtonmonthly.c...ual/2009_02/016734.php

I believe that you brought this up.


You tried to tie 14K to the Republicans and Genx87 showed that over the past 16+ years, speeds have increase when the Republicans have been controlling much of the government.

Comparing the US to other countries also requires taking into account the population density.

If you want to go city population by city population density; that would be a fairer comparison.

I wouldnt waste your time. We have this child come in here make some dubious claims, get called on them, then try to get me to prove his point for him.

Only an idiot would make the claim Republicans have stopped growth\ignore internet infrastructure then ask somebody who says Democrats and Republicans dont care about infrastructure to prove Republicans do care about infrastructure lmao. You really cant make up that style of arguing

 

[Ausm]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy

Originally posted by: Ausm

Originally posted by: Genx87
I wouldnt be against the govt forcing the local telcom and cable providers to sub lease their lines and recoup costs in a regulated fashion like they are discussing. But I also doubt this will spur innovation either like you hope. Rural America will still be using dial up. Only they may have more than 1-2 choices.

If you left i infrastructure concerns to the Republican's we would still be using 1400 baud modems.

examples before someone jumps my shit

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes...erence-and-compromise/

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/...onnell-stimulus-block/

http://rawstory.com/blog/2009/...nators-net-neutrality/

http://www.washingtonmonthly.c...ual/2009_02/016734.php

I believe that you brought this up.


You tried to tie 14K to the Republicans and Genx87 showed that over the past 16+ years, speeds have increase when the Republicans have been controlling much of the government.

Comparing the US to other countries also requires taking into account the population density.

If you want to go city population by city population density; that would be a fairer comparison.

I wouldnt waste your time. We have this child come in here make some dubious claims, get called on them, then try to get me to prove his point for him.

Only an idiot would make the claim Republicans have stopped growth\ignore internet infrastructure then ask somebody who says Democrats and Republicans dont care about infrastructure to prove Republicans dont care about infrastructure lmao. You really cant make up that style of arguing

Dude you can twist this shit all you want to make you look like a genius but the point is you have no proof for your bullshit comment.

The Republican's where controlling Congress but they did jack shit in terms of creating legislation to enhance internet speeds.

I am still waiting for the legislation...

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Ausm

Dude you can twist this shit all you want to make you look like a genius but the point is you have no proof for your bullshit comment.

I am still waiting for the legislation...

plain and simple...

You want me to prove Republicans care about internet infrastructure after I have said they dont care about infrastruture? Were you dropped on your head as a child?

Hi I am Earth, have we met?

 

[Ausm]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Ausm

Dude you can twist this shit all you want to make you look like a genius but the point is you have no proof for your bullshit comment.

I am still waiting for the legislation...

plain and simple...

You want me to prove Republicans care about internet infrastructure after I have said they dont care about infrastruture? Were you dropped on your head as a child?

Hi I am Earth, have we met?

Dude you added that shit AFTER the fact .....I saved a copy of your original bullshit post above so you couldn't modify it or twist in a way to make your bullshit argument in a favorable way

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: Ausm

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy

Originally posted by: Ausm

Originally posted by: Genx87
I wouldnt be against the govt forcing the local telcom and cable providers to sub lease their lines and recoup costs in a regulated fashion like they are discussing. But I also doubt this will spur innovation either like you hope. Rural America will still be using dial up. Only they may have more than 1-2 choices.

If you left i infrastructure concerns to the Republican's we would still be using 1400 baud modems.

examples before someone jumps my shit

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes...erence-and-compromise/

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/...onnell-stimulus-block/

http://rawstory.com/blog/2009/...nators-net-neutrality/

http://www.washingtonmonthly.c...ual/2009_02/016734.php

I believe that you brought this up.


You tried to tie 14K to the Republicans and Genx87 showed that over the past 16+ years, speeds have increase when the Republicans have been controlling much of the government.

Comparing the US to other countries also requires taking into account the population density.

If you want to go city population by city population density; that would be a fairer comparison.

I wouldnt waste your time. We have this child come in here make some dubious claims, get called on them, then try to get me to prove his point for him.

Only an idiot would make the claim Republicans have stopped growth\ignore internet infrastructure then ask somebody who says Democrats and Republicans dont care about infrastructure to prove Republicans dont care about infrastructure lmao. You really cant make up that style of arguing

Dude you can twist this shit all you want to make you look like a genius but the point is you have no proof for your bullshit comment.

The Republican's where controlling Congress but they did jack shit in terms of creating legislation to enhance internet speeds.

I am still waiting for the legislation...

1) Was there legislation introduced to restrict speeds?
2) If increased speeds are good for business, would you expect that the Republicans would be for removing any barriers.

Speeds increase as a result of commerical needs.

 

[Ausm]

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy

Originally posted by: Ausm

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy

Originally posted by: Ausm

Originally posted by: Genx87
I wouldnt be against the govt forcing the local telcom and cable providers to sub lease their lines and recoup costs in a regulated fashion like they are discussing. But I also doubt this will spur innovation either like you hope. Rural America will still be using dial up. Only they may have more than 1-2 choices.

If you left i infrastructure concerns to the Republican's we would still be using 1400 baud modems.

examples before someone jumps my shit

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes...erence-and-compromise/

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/...onnell-stimulus-block/

http://rawstory.com/blog/2009/...nators-net-neutrality/

http://www.washingtonmonthly.c...ual/2009_02/016734.php

I believe that you brought this up.


You tried to tie 14K to the Republicans and Genx87 showed that over the past 16+ years, speeds have increase when the Republicans have been controlling much of the government.

Comparing the US to other countries also requires taking into account the population density.

If you want to go city population by city population density; that would be a fairer comparison.

I wouldnt waste your time. We have this child come in here make some dubious claims, get called on them, then try to get me to prove his point for him.

Only an idiot would make the claim Republicans have stopped growth\ignore internet infrastructure then ask somebody who says Democrats and Republicans dont care about infrastructure to prove Republicans dont care about infrastructure lmao. You really cant make up that style of arguing

Dude you can twist this shit all you want to make you look like a genius but the point is you have no proof for your bullshit comment.

The Republican's where controlling Congress but they did jack shit in terms of creating legislation to enhance internet speeds.

I am still waiting for the legislation...

1) Was there legislation introduced to restrict speeds?
2) If increased speeds are good for business, would you expect that the Republicans would be for removing any barriers.

Speeds increase as a result of commerical needs.

What does this have do with what I am asking?

His Quote

Nice attempt at a troll. Well actually that was pretty pathetic. You trying to be Jokus 2.0? As bas as jokus is, at least some of his trolls are witty.

Republicans have held major control of the executive and legislative branches basically since the inception of the internet in mainstream America in 1994. Back then a 14.4 Bps modem was what avg American used. Today avg America has a connection speed of about 3Mbps.So you were saying?

I asked him a simple question prove the relationship of Internet speed increase with GOP legislation.

He was equating the increase in speed over a 16 year period to having a GOP majority in Washington.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Ausm

I asked him a simple question prove the relationship of Internet speed increase with GOP legislation.

He was equating the increase in speed over a 16 year period to having a GOP majority in Washington.

I was not equating anything they did with an increase in speed. Only refuting your idiotic idea Republicans would have us on 1400 baud rate modems with a dose of reality. If Republicans do as you claim. How did we go from 14.4Kbps modems to 3Mbps high speed internet?

Your whole premise of the argument is flawed anyways. The federal govt hasnt to my knowledge done anything except regulate the internet. No infrastructure spending minus military and their own networks.

 

[Patranus]

Originally posted by: Ausm
I asked him a simple question prove the relationship of Internet speed increase with GOP legislation.

The flaw in your thinking is that government through legislation is the only way to increase broadband speed.

 

[Ausm]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Ausm

I asked him a simple question prove the relationship of Internet speed increase with GOP legislation.

He was equating the increase in speed over a 16 year period to having a GOP majority in Washington.

I was not equating anything they did with an increase in speed. Only refuting your idiotic idea Republicans would have us on 1400 baud rate modems with a dose of reality. If Republicans do as you claim. How did we go from 14.4Kbps modems to 3Mbps high speed internet?

Your whole premise of the argument is flawed anyways. The federal govt hasnt to my knowledge done anything except regulate the internet. No infrastructure spending minus military and their own networks.

SO basically since I can't read your mind then that gives you the right to insult me without abandon...

 

[Ausm]

Originally posted by: Patranus

Originally posted by: Ausm
I asked him a simple question prove the relationship of Internet speed increase with GOP legislation.

The flaw in your thinking is that government through legislation is the only way to increase broadband speed.

I don't think there was any "flaw" in my thinking. I don't see how you could interpret that statement any other way unless your are reading it through red lenses.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Ausm

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Ausm

I asked him a simple question prove the relationship of Internet speed increase with GOP legislation.

He was equating the increase in speed over a 16 year period to having a GOP majority in Washington.

I was not equating anything they did with an increase in speed. Only refuting your idiotic idea Republicans would have us on 1400 baud rate modems with a dose of reality. If Republicans do as you claim. How did we go from 14.4Kbps modems to 3Mbps high speed internet?

Your whole premise of the argument is flawed anyways. The federal govt hasnt to my knowledge done anything except regulate the internet. No infrastructure spending minus military and their own networks.

SO basically since I can't read your mind then that gives you the right to insult me without abandon...

You want tissue to go with your tears? I couldnt spell it out for you in crayon much better. But you were hell bent on bashing Republicans and proclaiming your ignorance on this subject.

Sorry, like I said. Please leave this thread and let the grownups discuss the legitimate topic of Public vs Private internet infrastructure. Which is a lot more interesting than arguing with a pestilent child like you.

 

[Ausm]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Ausm

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Ausm

I asked him a simple question prove the relationship of Internet speed increase with GOP legislation.

He was equating the increase in speed over a 16 year period to having a GOP majority in Washington.

I was not equating anything they did with an increase in speed. Only refuting your idiotic idea Republicans would have us on 1400 baud rate modems with a dose of reality. If Republicans do as you claim. How did we go from 14.4Kbps modems to 3Mbps high speed internet?

Your whole premise of the argument is flawed anyways. The federal govt hasnt to my knowledge done anything except regulate the internet. No infrastructure spending minus military and their own networks.

SO basically since I can't read your mind then that gives you the right to insult me without abandon...

You want tissue to go with your tears? I couldnt spell it out for you in crayon much better. But you were hell bent on bashing Republicans and proclaiming your ignorance on this subject.

Sorry, like I said. Please leave this thread and let the grownups discuss the legitimate topic of Public vs Private internet infrastructure. Which is a lot more interesting than arguing with a pestilent child like you.

Dude you are wearing out your macros...the point is I called you out. You insulted the fuck out of me and you produced no credible proof to back up your ORIGINAL bullshit claim. If you forgot what that was you can scroll up. I saved it so it couldn't be modified

So fuck off and have a nice day :beer:

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Genx87

As for your link. Geographic concerns are major issue within the United States. We have a very sparse population compared to a Japan, S. Korea, and many European countries.

that's an excuse for rural areas, but why the hell are manhattan and other dense urban areas in this country still slow in comparison to similar places elsewhere?

Originally posted by: Ausm
SO basically since I can't read your mind then that gives you the right to insult me without abandon...

holy jesus it was apparent from his original post on the matter what he meant. everyone in here but you seems to have understood it. it was as clear as day and you still got it wrong.