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wouterkcs

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As stated above, these V series drives are not the ones that have an Intel based controllers. Based on this thread, I purchased two of them. I checked Anand SSD article from Anand and the picture of the 40GB shows V series. In addition I searched for more reviews and all show the V series being the Intel version. I called Kingston support and they told me that ONLY the M and E series are Intel based, and will have TRIM support. Not the V series. Very confusing.... and disappointed! Now I need to cancel my order from buy.com

Can anyone confirm the above .. I can't find only very few M or E series Kingston SSD drives available... and are very expensive. Maybe there is a real twist somewhere here???

Anyone care that probably these SSD's are NOt Intel based at all and will never have TRIM? And were Anand's benchmark based on V series or not?
 
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lizardboy

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OK, it's decision time...I'm planning to buy one of the following before the end of '09.

>2 x 40GB Kingston SSD running in RAID 0 (with tony-trim). I can pick up the pair for a little under $150 (from Buy.com, with Bing Cashback and BillMeLater promo).

>1 x 60GB OCZ Vertex. This drive can be had from TigerDirect for $185 (after Bing Cashback, $20 rebate, and eBillMe Promo).

Right now my Win7 x64 installation is only using 32GB of my 50GB OS partition, including the pagefile & hibernate file, so I think 60GB would be plenty of space.

Thoughts, advice?
 
Engineer

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lizardboy said:
OK, it's decision time...I'm planning to buy one of the following before the end of '09.

>2 x 40GB Kingston SSD running in RAID 0 (with tony-trim). I can pick up the pair for a little under $150 (from Buy.com, with Bing Cashback and BillMeLater promo).

>1 x 60GB OCZ Vertex. This drive can be had from TigerDirect for $185 (after Bing Cashback, $20 rebate, and eBillMe Promo).

Right now my Win7 x64 installation is only using 32GB of my 50GB OS partition, including the pagefile & hibernate file, so I think 60GB would be plenty of space. The Agility is just a tad below the Vertex and also has TRIM support.

Thoughts, advice?
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You can also get the OCZ 60GB Agility for $179.99 AR ($40) - $15 eBillme promo from ZZF (use code ZZF121609 from the eBillme checkout page) - 2% Bing = $161.93

Click me...

Just another option.
 
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wouterkcs said:
As stated above, these V series drives are not the ones that have an Intel based controllers. Based on this thread, I purchased two of them. I checked Anand SSD article from Anand and the picture of the 40GB shows V series. In addition I searched for more reviews and all show the V series being the Intel version. I called Kingston support and they told me that ONLY the M and E series are Intel based, and will have TRIM support. Not the V series. Very confusing.... and disappointed! Now I need to cancel my order from buy.com

Can anyone confirm the above .. I can't find only very few M or E series Kingston SSD drives available... and are very expensive. Maybe there is a real twist somewhere here???

Anyone care that probably these SSD's are NOt Intel based at all and will never have TRIM? And were Anand's benchmark based on V series or not?
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Well then the rep you talked to is wrong. The 40gb V series Kingston drives are Intel drives with half the cache and half the nand flash chips.

No other controller manufacturer has SSDs that come in 40gb, 80gb or 160gb sizes for SATA besides Intel.
 
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Engineer said:
Did you take a screen shot while going through Bing? :hmm:
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No. I have a theory that it may not show up until it ships. I ordered yesterday and it hasn't shipped yet, but I ordered something else from Buy.com today, also using Paypal, and earlier in the day it did not show up on Bing. However, I just checked and it shipped, and now shows up on Bing.

C'mon Buy.com, ship my SSDs!

wouterkcs said:
As stated above, these V series drives are not the ones that have an Intel based controllers.
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Yes they are. Kingston only makes one 40GB SSD and it is packaged as a bare drive as well as a retail kit. It is indeed a V series drive. The other V series drives use other controllers, but the 40GB drive uses an Intel. Anand even took his apart for pictures.
 
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Zap

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Why does it keep going in/out of stock? Was in stock this morning, OOS by around noon, in stock this evening, OOS now near midnight.
 
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KIAman

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wouterkcs said:
As stated above, these V series drives are not the ones that have an Intel based controllers. Based on this thread, I purchased two of them. I checked Anand SSD article from Anand and the picture of the 40GB shows V series. In addition I searched for more reviews and all show the V series being the Intel version. I called Kingston support and they told me that ONLY the M and E series are Intel based, and will have TRIM support. Not the V series. Very confusing.... and disappointed! Now I need to cancel my order from buy.com

Can anyone confirm the above .. I can't find only very few M or E series Kingston SSD drives available... and are very expensive. Maybe there is a real twist somewhere here???

Anyone care that probably these SSD's are NOt Intel based at all and will never have TRIM? And were Anand's benchmark based on V series or not?
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The 40GB are intel gen2 based.

Kingston SSDNow E Series
- (Intel Gen 1 Controller, 50nm Intel SLC NAND, 16MB Cache)
Kingston SSDNow M Series
- (Intel Gen 1 Controller, 50nm Intel MLC NAND, 16MB Cache)
Kingston SSDNow V+ Series
- (Samsung Controller, Samsung MLC NAND, 128MB Cache)
Kingston SSDNow V Series
- (JMicron Controller, Toshiba MLC NAND, No Cache)
Kingston SSDNow V Series 40GB Boot Drive
- (Intel Gen 2 Controller, 34nm Intel MLC NAND, 32 Cache)
 
Savarak

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so to clear all confusion up... the one sold here from buy.com WILL eventually have TRIM support with firmware upgrades??
 
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Savarak said:
so to clear all confusion up... the one sold here from buy.com WILL eventually have TRIM support with firmware upgrades??
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That is what Kingston PR told reviewers when the drive was released. There's no reason for it to not receive TRIM. It is an Intel x25 G2, just with half the nand chips.

Course there's really no reason why G1 drives won't be receiving TRIM either...
 
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rivethead

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FWIW, I used Pay Pal (so I could use my Discover Card) and I got Bing Cash Back two business days later (it was only 4% though).
 
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rivethead said:
FWIW, I used Pay Pal (so I could use my Discover Card) and I got Bing Cash Back two business days later (it was only 4% though).
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That's what I did too. Bing cashback took its sweet time on it, but I eventually got it.
 
bigi

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Got mine. The speed improvement is tremendous after replacing lesser grade SSD with it. Very good deal for less than $100.
 
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Zap said:
Why does it keep going in/out of stock? Was in stock this morning, OOS by around noon, in stock this evening, OOS now near midnight.
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Lots of demand I suppose. That and its probably being posted at other "Hot Deal" forums.
 
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sparrol333

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just read an article about the intel x25-v which is basically the same 40GB drive i think....

another good thing to look at if you can get in on this deal
 
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Zap

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My three drives were packaged in an unpadded envelope sitting outside my door when I got home today. :p
 
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Zap

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Yeah, no kidding. Otherwise, I'd be adding this to my "worst HDD shipping" thread above Amazon and Tiger Direct.
 
VirtualLarry

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Apparently, the official word from Intel is that these drives are not branded by or in any way associated with Intel, and therefore they will not recieve a firmware upgrade to support TRIM. Sucks, but it looks like Intel is playing hardball with Kingston, so that Intel's own drives have an advantage in the market.
 
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I interpreted this all a little differently. I interpret what Intel is saying is: we're not developing a firmware updgrade for you (even though it's our controller you're using). You're on your own.

Either one or two things will happen:

1) someone will hack Intel's firmware and get it to work on the Kingston, or
2) Kingston will develop their own firmware.

So there is still a (small) hope of getting TRIM on these drives. But if they don't....$84 for the Kingston vs $115 for the Intel.....is TRIM really worth $31?
 
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easypz

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Can anyone address power consumption on these drives? I haven't been able to determine if it's any lower than most of the new spinners. I like speedy access but I've always gone for power economy and if these drives aren't any more effecient I can hardly see the point in the upgrade.

Putting on my asbestos suit now. :)
 
qliveur

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Haha, excellent. :D

Hopefully there will be another deal on these soon. They seem to be the best SSD deal around.
 
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