Oops. He did it again? Suspect in Halloway disappearance wanted.

highland145

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The Dutch man who was the main suspect in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway is being sought in the murder of a woman in Peru, Thaindian News reported Wednesday.
Joran van der Sloot, 22, is suspected of murdering Stephany Tatiana Flores Ramirez, in Peru. Ramirez's body was found with multiple stab wounds on May 26.
According to Ramirez's friends, the 21-year-old was reportedly last seen leaving a Lima, Peru, casino with van der Sloot at 5:16 a.m. local time.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/06/02/report-natalee-holloway-suspect-sought-murder-peru/
 
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shocksyde

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Nevermind, other thread started right before mine with a HORRIBLY UNDESCRIPTIVE TITLE.
 
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highland145

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Look at the ones that hook up with convicted murderers, still in jail. That stupid.
 

waggy

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he is fucked on this one. nobody is going to give him a chance now.

most likely figured he got away with it once why not again? only bad news (well besides the young lady) is that now calloway's case is going to be all over the news again.
 

Lemon law

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Neither Fox news or highland145 have given this forum much to go on. Certainly Joran van der Sloot is going to be a person of interest to the police, but beyond that, and pardon me, any proof to base a criminal conviction is now largely missing in action.

Why rush to any judgments when that is the job of police work? Don't get me wrong, I am certainly not defending him or saying he is innocent, I am simply saying there is little to go on yet.

I will wait thank you before going off half cocked.
 

Pepsei

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well... same mo...she was last seen alive with him. except they have a body this time.

he was video'd entering into his hotel room that with her.
he checked out the next day, and fled to another country. they found her body in the room, she was stabbed to death.

so, it looks pretty bad for him.... unless someone is setting him up because it's the same day that natalee halloway disappeared 5 years ago to the day. may 30th.
 

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Neither Fox news or highland145 have given this forum much to go on. Certainly Joran van der Sloot is going to be a person of interest to the police, but beyond that, and pardon me, any proof to base a criminal conviction is now largely missing in action.

Why rush to any judgments when that is the job of police work? Don't get me wrong, I am certainly not defending him or saying he is innocent, I am simply saying there is little to go on yet.

I will wait thank you before going off half cocked.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natalee_Holloway

At best, he's a liar who interfered with a missing persons/murder investigation. I think he's much worse than that.
 

Corn

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Neither Fox news or highland145 have given this forum much to go on. Certainly Joran van der Sloot is going to be a person of interest to the police, but beyond that, and pardon me, any proof to base a criminal conviction is now largely missing in action.

Why rush to any judgments when that is the job of police work? Don't get me wrong, I am certainly not defending him or saying he is innocent, I am simply saying there is little to go on yet.

I will wait thank you before going off half cocked.

Unless, of course, the subject is George W. Bush whose crimes and the evidence of said crimes, you know, will come to light any day now...........you fucking hypocrite.
 

highland145

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Neither Fox news or highland145 have given this forum much to go on. Certainly Joran van der Sloot is going to be a person of interest to the police, but beyond that, and pardon me, any proof to base a criminal conviction is now largely missing in action.

Why rush to any judgments when that is the job of police work? Don't get me wrong, I am certainly not defending him or saying he is innocent, I am simply saying there is little to go on yet.

I will wait thank you before going off half cocked.
Wasn't jumping to any conclusions. But to appease you, I jumped into the bat plane, flew to Peru, investigated, nabbed, tried, found guilty and executed Joran on the spot. He cried like a little girl.

Oh, this from CBS http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20006616-504083.html

Appears the room, with the dead chic in it, was rented in J's name. :eek:
 

Blackjack200

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Unless, of course, the subject is George W. Bush whose crimes and the evidence of said crimes, you know, will come to light any day now...........you fucking hypocrite.

Yeah, I'd say my buddy lying under six feet of dirt is enough evidence for me you fucking dickbag.
 

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Neither Fox news or highland145 have given this forum much to go on. Certainly Joran van der Sloot is going to be a person of interest to the police, but beyond that, and pardon me, any proof to base a criminal conviction is now largely missing in action.

Why rush to any judgments when that is the job of police work? Don't get me wrong, I am certainly not defending him or saying he is innocent, I am simply saying there is little to go on yet.

I will wait thank you before going off half cocked.

You're right. It's probably just a coincidence.
 

Lemon law

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Yeah, I'd say my buddy lying under six feet of dirt is enough evidence for me you fucking dickbag.
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Which buddy are you talking about? the fellow who died in 911, I will sure agree with you on that one, or you talking about some of the other US soldiers who lost their lives on a GWB lied American soldiers died basis? Orall those hundreds of thousand of innocent civilians who died for that same GWB lied they died reason. Remember the Wizard of OZ, the cred test was bring me the broomstick of the witch? Bring me the broomstick of all that Iraqi WMD blackjack before you rush to judgment or think you have an iota of credibility!

But some of the forum idiots on Anand tech are now totally out of all control, I simply point out we don't have enough police work yet to convict the dutch guy yet, and you idiots come back saying that a case international prosecutors could at least already 95% make against GWB now is somehow comparable.
 

Corn

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Yeah, I'd say my buddy lying under six feet of dirt is enough evidence for me you fucking dickbag.

If what you claim is true, than RIP to your buddy. However, pointing out another forum member's hypocrisy does not make me a "dickbag" you moron.
 

Corn

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But some of the forum idiots on Anand tech are now totally out of all control, I simply point out we don't have enough police work yet to convict the dutch guy yet.......blah blah blah.......

LOL, yet I simply point out that you are indeed, a hypocrite of epic proportions. Oh yes, Bush is 95% guilty, yet not a single shred of prosecutable evidence has ever been presented of his alleged "crimes". But that doesn't stop you from proclaiming him guilty:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=83546

For the TLC contention to work, requires believing either no smoking guns on GWB&co will ever be found or that no smoking guns ever existed on GWB&co. Pardon us silly Bush haters but the latter contention that GWB&co are not hiding all kinds of illegal activities is just a huge stretch of the imagination we cannot accept as credible. In terms of the former postulate, we silly GWB haters accept as gospel truth, we do concede that GWB&co. has been very good at hiding the smoking guns. And we are working tirelessly to uncover one or more of these smoking guns. And we have not only until 1/20/2009, but far more time than that if the national mood requires it. It took something like two full years to get Nixon, and we have only had a paltry nine months to even get past the needed subpoena power to start on the long road towards getting the real solid evidence on GWB&co that will stick in a court of law or with Republicans in the Senate. Maybe GWB&co will stay on a roll and be able to win through damage control. But all we have to do is catch one lucky break and it may well be alas poor Yorick because the Gonzales scandal has shown most administration insiders just are not very competent at hiding the dirt. Once the initial cover story is breached, the rotten onion peels off layer by layer. We have not reached the core yet, but so many openings to explore, sooner or later its very very possible that a smoking gun is going to go off in the heart of GWB&co.

You want proof, we may well give you that proof is the bottom line. You may say that proof has not been found yet but it sure does not mean it won't be found. Some very motivated people are a working on it and are barely begun.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=124811

Onzoned quite correctly asked---
I want to know what Cheney and Bush know and I want to know it sooner than the 50 years or so that it will take with our our legal sysytem.


Got any suggestions?
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Sadly, its going to involve catching some breaks from the good and not so good people inside the GWB&co. administration itself retaining some documentation of the crimes committed. And thats why Hose Rodrequez is so important and why Scotter Fibby became an opportunity lost when he received his get out of jail free card from GWB. Likewise Monica Goodling was a simple dry hole because she really was not enough of an insider to know to know exactly how she was used as an expendable patsy.

While I would like to see many of GWB&co. medium sized fish hauled before congressional committees and pumped for information, its all too likely to result in executive pardons, and there may be some wisdom to waiting until after 1/20/2009 when GWB's ability to pardon expires. And then sweating those jerks will not be tempered by any prospect of a Presidential pardon and they will be dealing with only the hope of an immunity from prosecution deal in exchange for solid evidence. Which will not take the 50 years Ozoned postulates.

But we have a whole slightly better than a year to catch that break. And then impeachment and conviction of Cheney then GWB can be done in a single day.

I am pretty confident quite a few GWB insiders have squirreled away their own get out of jail free cards and will use them only when the hounds start chasing them. And quite a few of those will sell out their criminal bosses to stay out of jail and not pull a G. Gordon Liddy and fall on their own swords to protect their bosses.

Until that day, they up to and including GWB&Cheney will spend the rest of their lives wondering when it will catch up with them.

Until then, its the best suggestion I have.
 

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LOL, yet I simply point out that you are indeed, a hypocrite of epic proportions. Oh yes, Bush is 95% guilty, yet not a single shred of prosecutable evidence has ever been presented of his alleged "crimes". But that doesn't stop you from proclaiming him guilty:
I'm not really interested in taking sides as to whether Bush necessarily committed crimes but I think one simple fact needs to be pointed out here. There are two possible reasons why no evidence has been produced and only one of them lends credence to your claim that no crimes were committed. The two possible reasons are (assuming that the investigating authorities are actually competent - which could provide a third possible reason):
1. There were no crimes, thus there is no evidence to be found.
2. Nobody is looking for evidence.
If the reason is in fact number 2, then no definite conclusion can be drawn (from the fact that there is no apparently actionable evidence) as to whether crimes were committed. I think it's clear to everybody on both sides of the game that the current administration has absolutely no interest in pursuing investigations into abuses of executive power which might cramp Obama's style.

Whether there were crimes committed by the previous administration or not, any reasonable person needs a couple buckets and a bottle of Listerine to make it through all the footage of Gonzales before the Senate Judiciary Committee footage. Crimes or not the shit was deep, and for all the campaign posturing to the contrary Obama likes it that way too.
 

Corn

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There are two possible reasons why no evidence has been produced and only one of them lends credence to your claim that no crimes were committed.

I absolutely, positively, made no such claim. Not here or anywhere.